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Solarienne
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2013.10.26 11:38:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:I would recommend eradicating first those, who were acting or speaking against Tibus Heth, before fighting Sanshas. The trash, who don't respect Caldari Hero, Tibus Heth, are traitors. They are either gallentean supporters or were bought by gallentean spies to destabilize Heth-haans meritocracy. They must be dealt with first, before we can proceed with eliminating external enemies. We must purge traitorous scum and clear our beloved State. With fire and steel.
Kim has the right idea. Fight amongst yourselves, over the body of the man who almost ruined your nation. I'm sure he'll be happy that you are continuing his efforts to burn the State to the ground to rid it of non-existent or minimal threats. "Pulled from the grime and uncertainty that my life had been, I opened my eyes for the first time and saw in the distance, oh so far away, Utopia. -áMy path may be the broken backs of those who stand against me, but one day, I will stand at the gates and I will be Home." - Sascha Ishenko; Meditations on Servitude |

Ichinumi Tsukaya
PRAISE SATAN
1
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Posted - 2013.10.26 16:46:00 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:Ichinumi Tsukaya wrote: So go ahead, ignore the impending threat to the State in the hands of Sansha's Nation. Hang your head in shame at what you will allow to happen to the Caldari State.
I'd say I'm ignoring a bottom of the barrel mediocre provvie wannabe who is all empty words and bravura. Congratulations on being a failure of a polemecist, by the way.
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:I will not spend the lives of my crews in such a doomed crusade. Nor would I spend a single life to fight for Heth. All you see is 'Provist'. 'Division'. 'Differences'. Maybe my sentences before were too big for you... Maybe you are just happy to remain blind to the greater threat to our State.
Open your eyes to what we can achive, working together for our people. I wonder if we share similar goals? Such as the empowerment of the Caldari people? Perhaps I was very wishful in my thinking about your group. Perhaps I expected too much.
Diana Kim wrote:I would recommend eradicating first those, who were acting or speaking against Tibus Heth, before fighting Sanshas. ... Kim-haani, with respect, Sansha has wormhole generation technology. Perfect for exploiting strategic weaknesses across the cluster, in a massive way that only Sansha can. If we cannot, at minimum, find some way to stop Sansha from getting a hold of the secrets of the Caldari State and possibly CONCORD, the entire State is at dire risk. We would be failing our people to not pre-emptively engage Sansha forces, at a minimum. If at all we can recover Tibus Heth, that would be a bonus. Though, that is pending a full medical examination, as Sansha cannot be underestimated. Yet at the same time as I am sure you are aware, we must also be ready to execute Tibus Heth if safe recovery is somehow impossible. Heth-haan loves the Caldari people, as we know. There is no doubt in my mind's eye, he would rather be destroyed than risk the greater prosperity of the State, no matter which direction a corrupt CEP may wish to steer it. If it comes down to that, so be it. Even so, nothing will prevent the greater reckoning ahead. |

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
910
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Posted - 2013.10.26 21:00:00 -
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Ichinumi Tsukaya wrote:
Open your eyes to what we can achive, working together for our people. I wonder if we share similar goals? Such as the empowerment of the Caldari people? Perhaps I was very wishful in my thinking about your group. Perhaps I expected too much.
Did you know that CONCORD and DED already provides incentives for capsuleers to undertake activities against Sansha's Nation and has done so for the past few years?
Did you know that I don't care for lifting a finger, nor risking the sacrifice of my crews, to aid and abet known traitors, criminals and fugitives whether it's Tibus Heth, the Provists or the Gurista?
Did you know I don't care about your wishful thinking?
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Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
341
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Posted - 2013.10.27 00:59:00 -
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I have received no distress calls from Stain....
Can it be?! His roam was so successful Nation was destroyed before they even had a chance to call for help! |

Liuni Kalthis
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.10.27 01:27:00 -
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So is this the part where the fleet comes back saying they are much happier and expressing the love of networking to the summit? |

Andreus Ixiris
Duty. The Cursed Few
3561
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Posted - 2013.10.27 12:20:00 -
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You must be pretty damn stupid if you made this thread expecting any loyal Caldari capsuleer to lift a finger to "avenge" Heth. He's a liar and a traitor to the Caldari people, and anyone supporting him is exactly the same. Mane 614
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Malcolm Khross
Azure Industrial Technologies
988
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Posted - 2013.10.28 13:52:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:You must be pretty damn stupid if you made this thread expecting any loyal Caldari capsuleer to lift a finger to "avenge" Heth. He's a liar and a traitor to the Caldari people, and anyone supporting him is exactly the same.
Stop being agreeable. ~Malcolm Khross
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty. The Cursed Few
3586
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Posted - 2013.10.28 13:58:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:Stop being agreeable. No. Mane 614
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Solarienne
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
109
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Posted - 2013.10.30 09:22:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:I have received no distress calls from Stain....
Can it be?! His roam was so successful Nation was destroyed before they even had a chance to call for help!
Damn. Well, I guess we're out of a job. "Pulled from the grime and uncertainty that my life had been, I opened my eyes for the first time and saw in the distance, oh so far away, Utopia. -áMy path may be the broken backs of those who stand against me, but one day, I will stand at the gates and I will be Home." - Sascha Ishenko; Meditations on Servitude |

Bryen Verrisai
EVE University Ivy League
18
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Posted - 2013.10.31 09:53:00 -
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You know, I think the Sansha folks who make themselves visible get a little too much flak. They almost always seem to carry themselves quite nicely and calmly, usually posting with little malice and putting a fair amount of thought into what they want to say. I can safely say that I think I would enjoy an evening drinking with most of them.
Granted, I'd shoot them afterwards. But everything before that I imagine being pretty swell. |

Isis Dea
State Protectorate Caldari State
247
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:25:00 -
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Bryen Verrisai wrote:You know, I think the Sansha folks who make themselves visible get a little too much flak. They almost always seem to carry themselves quite nicely and calmly, usually posting with little malice and putting a fair amount of thought into what they want to say. I can safely say that I think I would enjoy an evening drinking with most of them.
Granted, I'd shoot them afterwards. But everything before that I imagine being pretty swell.
Would you like me to quote you numbers of families long gone, taken from their homes and lives into their "utopia"?
And we dare to call Tibus Heth a evil man.
If we didn't have such incompetent capsuleers here, someone would have said something already. |

Bryen Verrisai
EVE University Ivy League
18
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Posted - 2013.10.31 11:53:00 -
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Isis Dea wrote: Would you like me to quote you numbers of families long gone, taken from their homes and lives into their "utopia"?
Sadly I have a feeling that the Sanshas are a little too effective at their grizzly business, such that any number you give me would likely be an underestimation.
Maybe someday we'll get to work together to make our friends' lives at the TSF just a little bit harder, Ms. Dea. |

Malcolm Khross
Azure Industrial Technologies
1009
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Posted - 2013.10.31 12:20:00 -
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Isis Dea wrote: Would you like me to quote you numbers of families long gone, taken from their homes and lives into their "utopia"?
And we dare to call Tibus Heth a evil man.
Tibus Heth is an evil man.
Sansha Kuvakei is an evil and dangerous man.
Let us not get distracted with "degrees" of evil. While I have opposed Tibus Heth, I have and will continue to actively fight against Kuvakei. ~Malcolm Khross
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Solarienne
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
110
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Posted - 2013.10.31 12:33:00 -
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So many words, so few actions. When you're done fighting True Slaves, thinking you're making a difference beyond sucking blood money out of CONCORD and the Empires, I welcome the chance to test my strength and the strength of the Foundations.
If you can live up to all the chest puffing you've demonstrated, that is.
As for you, Malcolm, it is sad that for a man who displays so much empathy you have no appreciation of our work. Still, I have high hopes for you, especially as more and more of the people you know step to our side of the line and beckon you to follow. Until then, however, I'll be more than happy to see if that moral compass of yours holds up in a real situation. Show me the real strength of your convictions, "Pulled from the grime and uncertainty that my life had been, I opened my eyes for the first time and saw in the distance, oh so far away, Utopia. -áMy path may be the broken backs of those who stand against me, but one day, I will stand at the gates and I will be Home." - Sascha Ishenko; Meditations on Servitude |

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
178
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Posted - 2013.10.31 13:14:00 -
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Why waste time fighting TS-F? There's actual Sansha out there to pop if you're into that sort of thing. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
344
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Posted - 2013.10.31 13:18:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:Why waste time fighting TS-F? There's actual Sansha out there to pop if you're into that sort of thing.
Yes, listen to her. |

Malcolm Khross
Azure Industrial Technologies
1009
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Posted - 2013.10.31 13:38:00 -
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Solarienne wrote:As for you, Malcolm, it is sad that for a man who displays so much empathy you have no appreciation of our work. Still, I have high hopes for you, especially as more and more of the people you know step to our side of the line and beckon you to follow. Until then, however, I'll be more than happy to see if that moral compass of yours holds up in a real situation. Show me the real strength of your convictions.
My convictions have been tested many times before and they will be tested many times to come.
The fact that you are so eager to put my convictions to the test serves as more than enough explanation as to why I have no empathy for your work. ~Malcolm Khross
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Gwen Ikiryo
Perkone Caldari State
165
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Posted - 2013.10.31 13:42:00 -
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I certainly have no presumptions about my combat ability whatever, so I won't make any statements about my politics that I have no intention of accompanying with action.
...But I will say, however, that perhaps the only thing a Capsuleer can endeavour to accomplish with less quantifiable results then fighting Sanshas Nation forces is fighting other Capsuleers, especially if one doesn't have a specific objective in mind, like destroying infrastructure, or something in that vein.
And since True Slave Foundations likely has relatively little in terms of astral assets based on my understanding, well... |

N'maro Makari
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
154
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Posted - 2013.10.31 14:18:00 -
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Nice eye-patches. N'maro Makari Executive Officer The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative |

Solarienne
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
111
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:00:00 -
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N'maro Makari wrote:Nice eye-patches.
Thanks, they're all the rage I hear. Though I'm more interested in function over form for the most part. "Pulled from the grime and uncertainty that my life had been, I opened my eyes for the first time and saw in the distance, oh so far away, Utopia. -áMy path may be the broken backs of those who stand against me, but one day, I will stand at the gates and I will be Home." - Sascha Ishenko; Meditations on Servitude |

Isis Dea
State Protectorate Caldari State
247
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Posted - 2013.10.31 18:38:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:Isis Dea wrote: Would you like me to quote you numbers of families long gone, taken from their homes and lives into their "utopia"?
And we dare to call Tibus Heth a evil man.
Tibus Heth is an evil man. Sansha Kuvakei is an evil and dangerous man. Let us not get distracted with "degrees" of evil. While I have opposed Tibus Heth, I have and will continue to actively fight against Kuvakei.
Including Kuvakei's True Slaves which happen to actually be moderators of the Summit?
YepGǪ We're are that incompetent of capsuleers that Kuvakei's people have already inner worked themselves into positions of voice and moderation within our community.
And no one bats an eye.
Yet you condemn Heth and actively speak against him, who's crimes are NOTHING compared to those of Sansha Kuvakei.
What a double standard.
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Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
179
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Posted - 2013.10.31 18:42:00 -
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That probably would have been relevant, if they'd been more than pretenders. Besides, "the Summit" is a capsuleer run place. The official Intergalactic Summit is practically unmoderated it'd seem. Particularly by "Sansha". Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
346
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Posted - 2013.10.31 18:57:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:That probably would have been relevant, if they'd been more than pretenders.
Out of amusement and curiosity, what in your opinion would be a dividing line between being a pretender and the real deal?
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Isis Dea
State Protectorate Caldari State
248
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Posted - 2013.10.31 18:58:00 -
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Sounds like it's about time we reach our to our faction's contacts ((located under Live Events category)) and raised a few concerns. |

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
180
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Posted - 2013.10.31 19:03:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Jinari Otsito wrote:That probably would have been relevant, if they'd been more than pretenders. Out of amusement and curiosity, what in your opinion would be a dividing line between being a pretender and the real deal?
You have yet to show sufficient proficiency at performing the ancient Sansha ritual known as "the robot". If you disagree, I can provide a dancefloor and cameras for proof to be obtained. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Malcolm Khross
Azure Industrial Technologies
1011
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Posted - 2013.10.31 19:13:00 -
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Isis Dea wrote:Including Kuvakei's True Slaves which happen to actually be moderators of the Summit?
YepGǪ We're are that incompetent of capsuleers that Kuvakei's people have already inner worked themselves into positions of voice and moderation within our community.
And no one bats an eye.
Yet you condemn Heth and actively speak against him, who's crimes are NOTHING compared to those of Sansha Kuvakei.
What a double standard.
Dea,
I have absolutely no control over who is a moderator and who isn't in the NeoCom channel "The Summit."
Secondly, you know nothing of what I have and have not voiced opposition to throughout my career as a capsuleer and prior to that. At best, you can do some research into the content of my posts on these communication boards, but even then you'd only be seeing a small portion of my activity.
Thirdly, claiming that Heth's crimes are nothing compared to Kuvakei's is ultimately a matter of opinion (whether or not we agree on that opinion). The fact of the matter is that, at the root of their activities, both men sought to reshape a portion (or all) of the cluster after their own vision and elevated themselves to positions of leadership to do so.
Lastly, to assert that I hold a double standard in regards to any of this would require that you actually know where I stand on both matters and then substantiate your claim that I am using a different standard of measurement between both matters. ~Malcolm Khross
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Isis Dea
State Protectorate Caldari State
253
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Posted - 2013.10.31 21:23:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:Isis Dea wrote:Including Kuvakei's True Slaves which happen to actually be moderators of the Summit?
YepGǪ We're are that incompetent of capsuleers that Kuvakei's people have already inner worked themselves into positions of voice and moderation within our community.
And no one bats an eye.
Yet you condemn Heth and actively speak against him, who's crimes are NOTHING compared to those of Sansha Kuvakei.
What a double standard.
Dea, I have absolutely no control over who is a moderator and who isn't in the NeoCom channel "The Summit." Secondly, you know nothing of what I have and have not voiced opposition to throughout my career as a capsuleer and prior to that. At best, you can do some research into the content of my posts on these communication boards, but even then you'd only be seeing a small portion of my activity. Thirdly, claiming that Heth's crimes are nothing compared to Kuvakei's is ultimately a matter of opinion (whether or not we agree on that opinion). The fact of the matter is that, at the root of their activities, both men sought to reshape a portion (or all) of the cluster after their own vision and elevated themselves to positions of leadership to do so. Lastly, to assert that I hold a double standard in regards to any of this would require that you actually know where I stand on both matters and then substantiate your claim that I am using a different standard of measurement between both matters.
Most of my statement was made toward the capsuleers involved in this channel, not toward you exclusively. |

Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
351
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Posted - 2013.10.31 22:16:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:Jinari Otsito wrote:That probably would have been relevant, if they'd been more than pretenders. Out of amusement and curiosity, what in your opinion would be a dividing line between being a pretender and the real deal? You have yet to show sufficient proficiency at performing the ancient Sansha ritual known as "the robot". If you disagree, I can provide a dancefloor and cameras for proof to be obtained.
My moves are insufficient to the task. I regretfully accept the title of pretender. |

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
185
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Posted - 2013.10.31 22:44:00 -
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According to the late night holoreels, you aren't permitted a sense of humor either. You're being very naughty as far as Sansha go, haven't anyone told you that? Uncle Kuvakei is going to have a fit. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
593
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Posted - 2013.11.01 07:12:00 -
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Isis Dea wrote:And we dare to call Tibus Heth a evil man.
Ms. Dea, only complete idiots or gallentean bootlickers would call him an evil man. If someone will tell this in your face, feel free to grab your gun and shot him or her on sight, the whole world will say you "thanks" for removing such trash from existence.
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