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beancounter Jaynara
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
47
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Posted - 2013.10.27 07:15:00 -
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For a few months now, Erotica 1 has been at the top of the New Order shareholder list as evidenced here:
http://www.minerbumping.com/p/shareholders.html
Furthermore, she has built up influence by donating things such as a carrier and Scorpion Ishukone Watch to James 315, which can be found here:
http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/05/ninety-billion-in-shares-sold-numerous.html http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/10/the-new-order-reaches-new-milestone.html
I would like to shake things up a bit, and I need your help! If you are a high sec miner (or anyone else) and are tired of the New Order as it is now, the best solution is to affect change from the inside. I propose that you send me isk to make one large block purchase to oust Erotica 1 as top shareholder. 25 billion isk should do it (an even 1 billion above her amount.) I will keep track of investments and we will vote to change the direction of things.
I am only doing this to help the community. I will not take any sort of fee for my time. Of course, I highly encourage any wealthy individuals to make their own share purchases as they see fit. A large block of 25 million shares (1 million isk each,) however, would send a strong message!
Thanks for you time. |

Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
81
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Posted - 2013.10.27 07:21:00 -
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What is this? Jita local? pew pew |

Frying Doom
2809
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Posted - 2013.10.27 07:31:00 -
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More of this crap.
Is James 315, annoyed that he is not on the front page of the forum. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Violet Crumble
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.10.27 07:31:00 -
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While I do approve of crusades to buy more shares in the New Order, I do not approve of trying to knock Erotica out of the #1 shareholder spot.
She's an inspiration; and the first player to run a legitimate ISK doubling business.
I look up to her and what she does to support the community. Try everything once |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1771
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Posted - 2013.10.27 07:37:00 -
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Violet Crumble wrote:While I do approve of crusades to buy more shares in the New Order, I do not approve of trying to knock Erotica out of the #1 shareholder spot.
She's an inspiration; and the first player to run a legitimate ISK doubling business.
I look up to her and what she does to support the community.
Don't worry. High sec carebears can barely manage themselves, let alone figure out how to buy a bunch of shares and vote for their own interests. If only Charles Darwin was alive today. I think it's safe to say they will all just continue to curse and complain and not do a thing to change their own destiny. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Frying Doom
2809
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Posted - 2013.10.27 07:39:00 -
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Isn't Begging banned in GD? Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

beancounter Jaynara
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2013.10.27 07:43:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Isn't Begging banned in GD?
Learn to read. I am offering a service for free. Upon completion of the purchase, it will be obvious that I gained nothing from this. This is my only concern- that highsec'ers such as yourself will find reasons to make this fail out of ignorance, stupidity, and fear. I do not mean to call you a cowardly idiot, just your comment. |

Holgrak Blacksmith
European Research and Industry Corp
155
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Posted - 2013.10.27 07:55:00 -
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I fully agree with what the new order does. The facet of the new order which stops me from contributing is that certain members (some of whom have posted here), treat it like their own little superior club. Erotica 1 posts are largely a case of "I'm the coolest 13 year old girl on the playground". It's quite tragic. |

Frying Doom
2813
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Posted - 2013.10.27 07:55:00 -
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beancounter Jaynara wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Isn't Begging banned in GD? Learn to read. I am offering a service for free. Upon completion of the purchase, it will be obvious that I gained nothing from this. This is my only concern- that highsec'ers such as yourself will find reasons to make this fail out of ignorance, stupidity, and fear. I do not mean to call you a cowardly idiot, just your comment. So you are begging for money to give to someone else.
Yes and I am sure there are plenty of highsec'ers like me 
This of course does show your ignorance, stupidity, and fear.
I have not spent my time in EvE hiding behind CONCORDs skirt until I found a target that was defenseless.
You call me me a cowardly idiot, at least I am not begging on the forums. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
829
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Posted - 2013.10.27 08:02:00 -
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beancounter Jaynara wrote:Thanks for you time. get out
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Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2259
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Posted - 2013.10.27 10:49:00 -
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James31whatever is a nobody. The New Order, are nobodies. Nobodies trying to police nobodies unsuccessfully.
Inside the actual game (despite living in carebear space for a good few months now) I have never heard of anyone who has ever been affected by him. He doesn't need any new threads. He doesn't need any more attention. Nobody cares. Stop posting about nothing.
I hope I covered everything. k thx bye. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

beancounter Jaynara
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2013.10.27 10:50:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:beancounter Jaynara wrote:Thanks for you time. get out
I try to type as well as I can. But I'm Widot. |

Felicity Love
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
928
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Posted - 2013.10.27 10:51:00 -
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... gets moar popkorn... this thread is going places for the greater awesomeness of EVE...
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

beancounter Jaynara
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2013.10.27 11:03:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:James31whatever is a nobody. The New Order, are nobodies. Nobodies trying to police nobodies unsuccessfully.
Inside the actual game (despite living in carebear space for a good few months now) I have never heard of anyone who has ever been affected by him. He doesn't need any new threads. He doesn't need any more attention. Nobody cares. Stop posting about nothing.
I hope I covered everything. k thx bye.
You sound mad. Channel that anger into positive change and buy some shares. Hope and Change. Vote for change. Change we can believe in. Change we need. |

Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2260
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Posted - 2013.10.27 11:05:00 -
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beancounter Jaynara wrote:Channel that anger into positive change and buy some shares.
If I had some spare cash to channel, I would channel it into a war dec. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

beancounter Jaynara
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2013.10.27 11:10:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:beancounter Jaynara wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Isn't Begging banned in GD? Learn to read. I am offering a service for free. Upon completion of the purchase, it will be obvious that I gained nothing from this. This is my only concern- that highsec'ers such as yourself will find reasons to make this fail out of ignorance, stupidity, and fear. I do not mean to call you a cowardly idiot, just your comment. So you are begging for money to give to someone else. Yes and I am sure there are plenty of highsec'ers like me  This of course does show your ignorance, stupidity, and fear. I have not spent my time in EvE hiding behind CONCORDs skirt until I found a target that was defenseless. You call me me a cowardly idiot, at least I am not begging on the forums.
The "I know you are but what am I" type of reasoning died out a long time ago.
As clearly stated, I am offering a free service to the community to aggregate share purchases to create a powerful voting bloc. I also encourage all those "grr Goon" people to buy their own shares if they so choose to vote themselves. In no way do I suggest throwing isk at me or someone else "just cause." The latter would be begging. The former is solicitation of services. I clearly explained that I do not think you are a cowardly idiot, only that your words are cowardly and idiotic. I am sure you are a special person.
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Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
19
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Posted - 2013.10.27 11:18:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: Don't worry. High sec carebears can barely manage themselves, let alone figure out how to buy a bunch of shares and vote for their own interests. If only Charles Darwin was alive today. I think it's safe to say they will all just continue to curse and complain and not do a thing to change their own destiny.
What are you in RL? An accountant?
You know, one who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
EVE is a *game* Not RL and if people want to play it as a game and not as a religion, cult or whatever, then they are perfectly within their rights to do so. After all as a possible bean counter you must surely approve of people paying their own subscriptions to play EVE.
There is more to life, and EVE, than making money. Some of us play for pleasure. |

Frying Doom
2817
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Posted - 2013.10.27 11:21:00 -
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beancounter Jaynara wrote:Frying Doom wrote:beancounter Jaynara wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Isn't Begging banned in GD? Learn to read. I am offering a service for free. Upon completion of the purchase, it will be obvious that I gained nothing from this. This is my only concern- that highsec'ers such as yourself will find reasons to make this fail out of ignorance, stupidity, and fear. I do not mean to call you a cowardly idiot, just your comment. So you are begging for money to give to someone else. Yes and I am sure there are plenty of highsec'ers like me  This of course does show your ignorance, stupidity, and fear. I have not spent my time in EvE hiding behind CONCORDs skirt until I found a target that was defenseless. You call me me a cowardly idiot, at least I am not begging on the forums. The "I know you are but what am I" type of reasoning died out a long time ago. As clearly stated, I am offering a free service to the community to aggregate share purchases to create a powerful voting bloc. I also encourage all those "grr Goon" people to buy their own shares if they so choose to vote themselves. In no way do I suggest throwing isk at me or someone else "just cause." The latter would be begging. The former is solicitation of services. I clearly explained that I do not think you are a cowardly idiot, only that your words are cowardly and idiotic. I am sure you are a special person. No you are begging on the forums that is all.
As to the reasoning, you showed you have you no idea who I am by calling me a hisec'er but yet you felt free to label me, calling me a coward amongst other things.
As I said you showed your ignorance, stupidity, and fear in your posting. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Aracimia Wolfe
The Cursed Navy
248
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Posted - 2013.10.27 11:27:00 -
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This thread is going places(tm) Kill it with Fire! |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1773
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Posted - 2013.10.27 11:30:00 -
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As is already clear, no carebears will support this. They will just troll you and each other endlessly. It doesn't matter what value you bring to the table. They are typically greedy, angry, slothful, and generally exhibit the other carebear sins as well. Perhaps someone will create a new literary masterpiece based in New Eden that describes for us the journey of one man and his observation of all seven carebear sins. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
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beancounter Jaynara
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2013.10.27 11:34:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:beancounter Jaynara wrote:Frying Doom wrote:beancounter Jaynara wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Isn't Begging banned in GD? Learn to read. I am offering a service for free. Upon completion of the purchase, it will be obvious that I gained nothing from this. This is my only concern- that highsec'ers such as yourself will find reasons to make this fail out of ignorance, stupidity, and fear. I do not mean to call you a cowardly idiot, just your comment. So you are begging for money to give to someone else. Yes and I am sure there are plenty of highsec'ers like me  This of course does show your ignorance, stupidity, and fear. I have not spent my time in EvE hiding behind CONCORDs skirt until I found a target that was defenseless. You call me me a cowardly idiot, at least I am not begging on the forums. The "I know you are but what am I" type of reasoning died out a long time ago. As clearly stated, I am offering a free service to the community to aggregate share purchases to create a powerful voting bloc. I also encourage all those "grr Goon" people to buy their own shares if they so choose to vote themselves. In no way do I suggest throwing isk at me or someone else "just cause." The latter would be begging. The former is solicitation of services. I clearly explained that I do not think you are a cowardly idiot, only that your words are cowardly and idiotic. I am sure you are a special person. No you are begging on the forums that is all. As to the reasoning, you showed you have you no idea who I am by calling me a hisec'er but yet you felt free to label me, calling me a coward amongst other things. As I said you showed your ignorance, stupidity, and fear in your posting.
Why are you so angry all the time? |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
415
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Posted - 2013.10.27 11:35:00 -
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Quote:As is already clear, no carebears will support this. They will just troll you and each other endlessly. It doesn't matter what value you bring to the table. They are typically greedy, angry, slothful, and generally exhibit the other carebear sins as well. Perhaps someone will create a new literary masterpiece based in New Eden that describes for us the journey of one man and his observation of all seven carebear sins.
Look who's trollin.  Protect yourself from CONCORD today! Tinfoil hats, quality product. Styled after pirate hats. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
64319
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Posted - 2013.10.27 11:41:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: I think it's safe to say they will all just continue to curse and complain and not do a thing to change their own destiny.
Not all of us.
I found a better way of getting my ISK than mining ores. I'm sure there are others.............. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1773
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Posted - 2013.10.27 11:44:00 -
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Jaxon Grylls wrote:Erotica 1 wrote: Don't worry. High sec carebears can barely manage themselves, let alone figure out how to buy a bunch of shares and vote for their own interests. If only Charles Darwin was alive today. I think it's safe to say they will all just continue to curse and complain and not do a thing to change their own destiny.
What are you in RL? An accountant? You know, one who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. EVE is a *game* Not RL and if people want to play it as a game and not as a religion, cult or whatever, then they are perfectly within their rights to do so. After all as a possible bean counter you must surely approve of people paying their own subscriptions to play EVE. There is more to life, and EVE, than making money. Some of us play for pleasure. 
As is posted on the internet, yes I have a degree in accounting, finance, and philosophy. There is no greater pleasure than bringing the good news of the Code to all corners of high sec. I fully support pleasure and actively playing the game, as is supported by ample evidence on www.minerbumping.com . I do not support zombie-like behaviour of those who wish to reduce the game to an automated program, nor do I support those like yourself who believe the sandbox is a safe place that everyone should be left alone in. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2262
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Posted - 2013.10.27 12:01:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: Don't worry. High sec carebears can barely manage themselves, let alone figure out how to buy a bunch of shares and vote for their own interests. If only Charles Darwin was alive today. I think it's safe to say they will all just continue to curse and complain and not do a thing to change their own destiny.
Hate to break it to you. But your largely a highsec carebear.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Carebear "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Nebu Retski
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
46
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Posted - 2013.10.27 12:13:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Erotica 1 wrote: Don't worry. High sec carebears can barely manage themselves, let alone figure out how to buy a bunch of shares and vote for their own interests. If only Charles Darwin was alive today. I think it's safe to say they will all just continue to curse and complain and not do a thing to change their own destiny.
Hate to break it to you. But your largely a highsec carebear. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Carebear
According to that link you posted she doesn't really fit the definition of a carebear.
- Is a non-PvP oriented pilot - generally a miner or mission-runner. <- Maybe the first part is correct, can't say about the second part
- Refuses to engage in PvP at all costs. <- She "scams" which is a PvP activity
- Disagrees with PvP existing in empire space. <- Doubt she disagrees with pvp in empire considering she does it.
- Often is a solo pilot still in an original NPC corp. <- She isn't
- Responds to violent/illegal interaction with other players with a negative and unsporting attitude. <- Don't think so
- Tries to amass as much wealth as possible while expecting as little conflict as possible. <- I'm pretty sure that the way she gets her isk is causing quite a bit of conflict.
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1773
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Posted - 2013.10.27 12:17:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Erotica 1 wrote: Don't worry. High sec carebears can barely manage themselves, let alone figure out how to buy a bunch of shares and vote for their own interests. If only Charles Darwin was alive today. I think it's safe to say they will all just continue to curse and complain and not do a thing to change their own destiny.
Hate to break it to you. But your largely a highsec carebear. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Carebear
Did you read that wiki at all? I did. You are wrong. Let's break it apart so it's not some back and forth bullshit:
"Carebear is an often derogatory term used to describe players who prefer to refrain from PvP combat. Activities that involve playing against the game environment are collectively referred to as 'carebearing.'"
Clearly I am happy to engage in PVP, however terrible at it I may be.
"People described as carebears can be mission runners, manufacturers, traders, or any number of non-player vs player centric fields of economic gain. The key perceived difference between 'carebears' and players who simply PvE is their attitude towards PvP encounters."
I have run missions, though it has been awhile. I manufactured some crystals once. I trade a lot. I always give complements to those who kill me and congratulate them on the bounty payout bonus.
"Although the term exists as an Eve meme, if one were to attempt to define a carebear as accurately as possible, some of the following attributes would generally apply.
Is a non-PvP oriented pilot - generally a miner or mission-runner. Refuses to engage in PvP at all costs. Disagrees with PvP existing in empire space. Often is a solo pilot still in an original NPC corp. Responds to violent/illegal interaction with other players with a negative and unsporting attitude. Tries to amass as much wealth as possible while expecting as little conflict as possible. In the end, the true difference between a mission runner, industrialist, business man, and carebear is what their reactive attitude towards PvP in EVE is."
I do not mine. I did a long time ago, and it was dreadful. I clearly am willing to engage in PVP. In fact, my terrible killboard shows that I seek it out from time to time. Concord doesn't just show up because they feel like it. That TEST renter corp didn't lose the war against my corp all by themselves. I clearly support PVP in high sec, vociferously. I have not been in an NPC corp for a long time. I am one of the most sporting players you will encounter if you shoot at me in war, lowsec, nullsec, or gank me. Of course I seek to amass wealth- but so that I can redistribute it according to my wishes.
So, pretty much line by line, you are wrong.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
415
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Posted - 2013.10.27 12:18:00 -
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Yeah, so much for definitions. Erotica1 is one of its kind, special baby, so are we. Protect yourself from CONCORD today! Tinfoil hats, quality product. Styled after pirate hats. |

Generals4
2074
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Posted - 2013.10.27 12:18:00 -
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beancounter Jaynara wrote:For a few months now, Erotica 1 has been at the top of the New Order shareholder list as evidenced here: http://www.minerbumping.com/p/shareholders.htmlFurthermore, she has built up influence by donating things such as a carrier and Scorpion Ishukone Watch to James 315, which can be found here: http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/05/ninety-billion-in-shares-sold-numerous.htmlhttp://www.minerbumping.com/2013/10/the-new-order-reaches-new-milestone.htmlI would like to shake things up a bit, and I need your help! If you are a high sec miner (or anyone else) and are tired of the New Order as it is now, the best solution is to affect change from the inside. I propose that you send me isk to make one large block purchase to oust Erotica 1 as top shareholder. 25 billion isk should do it (an even 1 billion above her amount.) I will keep track of investments and we will vote to change the direction of things. I am only doing this to help the community. I will not take any sort of fee for my time. Of course, I highly encourage any wealthy individuals to make their own share purchases as they see fit. A large block of 25 million shares (1 million isk each,) however, would send a strong message! Thanks for you time.
A Goon is asking for money he will than invest in the behalf of the ones sending money? My Scam-O-Meter exploded.
-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
415
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Posted - 2013.10.27 12:25:00 -
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OP, at least i would make an alt and grown it for some kind of the big scale scam, you underestimated the playerbase. Protect yourself from CONCORD today! Tinfoil hats, quality product. Styled after pirate hats. |
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