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Eric Redaxe
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Posted - 2006.02.05 13:04:00 -
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RMR introduced the idea that you can build Outposts in Med to High Sec space, but that you needed high standings with the owning empire, Standings of 5 for .5 one etc.
What I want to know is, if your standing drops below the requisite level what happens, is the 5 standing only required for building, or do you need to keep it that high to maintain the Outpost?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.05 13:23:00 -
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I never heard anything about building outposts in high sec.
Considering there's already factories, refining, etc, I don't see why anyone would want to.
A POS, sure. But an outpost?! 
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Xachiriah
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Posted - 2006.02.05 14:15:00 -
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Someone got their wires crossed methinks.
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Eric Redaxe
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Posted - 2006.02.05 14:50:00 -
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I quote the following from the RMR patch notes and explanations:
Starbases can now be deployed in 0.4 including and up to 0.7 in Empire space if the prerequisites are met. The deploying corporation must have a minimum standing towards the sovereign Empire and acquire a valid lease. In return, the Empire allows the usage of specific structures such as Factories and Labs but does not allow Moon Mining or Reactions. Empire Starbases cannot pre-emptively strike anything other than war targets..
Does anyone know the answer to my original question, or how do I prod a Dev to find out?
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Beovvulf
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Posted - 2006.02.05 15:47:00 -
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By starbases, they mean poses. You need sovereignty over a system to build an outpost. So you cant build an outpost in empire.
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2006.02.05 15:48:00 -
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starbases are posses not outposts, outposts can only be constrcuted in space where you have sovereignity, you can;t have sov in empire space, hence no outposts.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.02.05 15:48:00 -
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You're introducing confusion because you are referring to a starbase (a POS) as an outpost (a player-built miniature station).
In answer to your question, I don't have a clue, but I suspect you'll have to keep standing up or you won't be allowed to use the whatnot certificate things any more. I could, of course, be totally wrong. That happens occasionally 
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CelticKnight
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Posted - 2006.02.06 03:49:00 -
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it appears the OP didnt read the threads about POS'es and 'posts in this forum.... Op- RTFM
 Originally by: Stealthy
I am simply mortified Ginger Magician's alt is now advising folks in POS operations-is it the end of player piracy as we know it?
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Eric Redaxe
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Posted - 2006.02.06 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: CelticKnight
it appears the OP didnt read the threads about POS'es and 'posts in this forum.... Op- RTFM
I read all I could find, and so far none have answered this question, of course if you know where the answer may be found, I should be delighted if you would point me too it.
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Fridge oblivion
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Posted - 2006.02.06 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Fridge oblivion on 06/02/2006 12:09:13
POS (starbase) needs fuel and costs a few hundered millions depending on setup. Outpost need no fuel is indestructible but concerable and costs 30 billion at least (plus you need a freighter).
Hope you see the difference and the reason why people are amused by your post
Edit: for your original question: Find out the hard way 
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Eric Redaxe
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Posted - 2006.02.06 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Eric Redaxe on 06/02/2006 14:41:50
Originally by: Fridge oblivion
Edited by: Fridge oblivion on 06/02/2006 12:09:13
POS (starbase) needs fuel and costs a few hundered millions depending on setup. Outpost need no fuel is indestructible but concerable and costs 30 billion at least (plus you need a freighter).
Hope you see the difference and the reason why people are amused by your post
Edit: for your original question: Find out the hard way
Or try "Ask A Question" under "EVE SUPPORT" in the left menu
Yes I know the difference, and I asked about Outposts, I am well aware of there costs etc. You may not be able too build outposts in empire, at the moment I am trying to find out, yes I know they are different to pos's and you need to be running pos's to get sovereignty, but the info about Outposts is still somehwhat slim. And yes there is a reason why one in Empire would be of use.
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Rasai
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Posted - 2006.02.06 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Eric Redaxe
Edited by: Eric Redaxe on 06/02/2006 14:41:50
Originally by: Fridge oblivion
Edited by: Fridge oblivion on 06/02/2006 12:09:13
POS (starbase) needs fuel and costs a few hundered millions depending on setup. Outpost need no fuel is indestructible but concerable and costs 30 billion at least (plus you need a freighter).
Hope you see the difference and the reason why people are amused by your post
Edit: for your original question: Find out the hard way
Or try "Ask A Question" under "EVE SUPPORT" in the left menu
Yes I know the difference, and I asked about Outposts, I am well aware of there costs etc. You may not be able too build outposts in empire, at the moment I am trying to find out, yes I know they are different to pos's and you need to be running pos's to get sovereignty, but the info about Outposts is still somehwhat slim. And yes there is a reason why one in Empire would be of use.
If you read whole thread you would know your answer.
You need sovereignty to deploy a Outpost.
Players cannot get Sovereignty of empire systems.
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Princess Morenta
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Posted - 2006.02.12 03:36:00 -
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Edited by: Princess Morenta on 12/02/2006 03:36:03
Starbase shouldnt be classed as POS is a point though...
Cant dock at a POS so its technically not a base - its more of a "petrol" station :P
Outpost is more of a dockable starbase with facilities.
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Neslo
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Posted - 2006.02.12 10:23:00 -
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Full Fledged Stations - These are structures found in Empire and Pirate controlled space only at the moment.
Player Conquerable Stations - Given to the players by the developers so that they might have "homes" in 0.0 and start colonizing. Immediately gobbled up by exsisting alliances already "claiming" those regions. (Defending and Conquering now follow the same rules as Outposts afaik).
Outposts - Structures paid for and built by players. They have limited role based functionality. These structures can ONLY be built in 0.0 space where the players can claim soveriegnty (sp?) for their alliance. The are permanent structures that must have control maintained by having a majority of small, medium, large towers of controlling alliance to outnumber all other competing alliances.
Starbases - This is the official GAME name of POSes. No matter what you think, that's the name so there really is not point arguing it. Call it what you want... but their official title is Starbase. Now that we have that little bit of information clarified, STARBASES can be built in empire space of 0.7 and lower. Before RMR it was not possible to build a Starbase in space 0.4 or higher. This has changed. Some things are still not possible to be done in 0.4 or high space, but it does alow for industry to be managed instead of having to use lines in stations.
Hope you now understand outposts can't be built in empire or pirate controlled space (or where any NPC claims space). It must be constructed in 0.0 that is claimed by your own alliance.
Perhaps down the line when Factional warfare will allow you to dispute NPC claims on a system.... then this might change and players will be able to build in empire... but honestly I doubt that will occur in the next 12 months time.
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