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Singular
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Posted - 2003.08.30 02:13:00 -
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All the signs point to "YES". Seems CCP thinks there are too many small corps, so by rewarding the TTI's of the world (who made it into the guide for gods sake as if they were part of the game) with miner II BPs, they not only give them a crazy 300 mill isk a day advantage, but they also cause a massive influx of players TO those privildged corporations. You checked Tyrell(I think thats the name, not sure) corps numbers lately? Its sick.
Smaller corps are falling apart, not being able to compete. I personally think CCP wants just a handfull of mega-corps in this game, no small or medium sized ones.
So lets ask the next logical step -- what will CCP do to move the herds into 0.0 space?? Dont kid yourself, it will happen. The afk mining in 1.0s will be a thing of the past soon, mark my word (as it should be).
How will they move people into 0.0s? Not sure, but Im sure it will be done by penalty for being in < 0.0 space, not by reward for being in 0.0 space.
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Roba's Minion
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Posted - 2003.08.30 02:18:00 -
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Well the bp TTi got was only for like 200 miner IIs. A large corp like themselves will use most of them.
Also the scavanger hunts and other events put miner II bps in the hands of smaller corps.
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Erty
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Posted - 2003.08.30 02:19:00 -
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Edited by: Erty on 30/08/2003 02:19:40
1. No one from CCP or TTI (or a Polaris, GM or whatever) HAS EVER confirmed this. Someone just made it up and now everyone believes in it...so dumb. What CCP has said is that all the Miner 2 BPC's have been droppd from Jovian ships, not given to people. And some was given in that "container hunt".
2. I don't want to compete with the big corps anyway - why would I want to do that? There's no point in it.
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Hobbes d'Aurora
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Posted - 2003.08.30 02:26:00 -
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Smaller corps are falling apart, not being able to compete. I personally think CCP wants just a handfull of mega-corps in this game, no small or medium sized ones.
This is the same dynamic that occurs in the real world.
Small corporations don't have the resources that larger ones can muster... if this wasn't true, there would be no reason to band together.
It's not CCP's doing... it's the natural order.
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2003.08.30 02:29:00 -
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You ever gonna stop crying Singular?
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Eurydike
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Posted - 2003.08.30 02:37:00 -
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You know, small corps are IMHO falling apart because they spread their businesses too much.
Specialization's the name of the game. Though even that might not save you from being swallowed by a larger corporation.
Plenty of examples in the car industry - for both extremes... being swallowed (Bugatti) and surviving as a specialist (Shelby).
What's true is that current lack of diversification somehow hinders specialization, so maybe more small corps are swallwed then would be with better possibilities to make brand items.
Then again, I'm only a failed student of business administration, so I may be completely wrong. ;)
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.08.30 02:59:00 -
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Edited by: Singular on 30/08/2003 03:00:28
 "Small corporations don't have the resources that larger ones can muster... if this wasn't true, there would be no reason to band together."
Well Gee, a monopoly on Miner IIs or other such items doesnt hurt them.
Give my corp a Miner II BP? We have 100 members in a week.
You say specialize? Specialize in what? Give me an example, noob, please.
Im Yo Huckleberreh |
xxxUberManxxx
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Posted - 2003.08.30 03:08:00 -
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Smaller corps are falling apart, not being able to compete. I personally think CCP wants just a handfull of mega-corps in this game, no small or medium sized ones.
This is the same dynamic that occurs in the real world.
Small corporations don't have the resources that larger ones can muster... if this wasn't true, there would be no reason to band together.
It's not CCP's doing... it's the natural order.
What a shmuck...
RL senerios are not wtf we play eve for ! ! ! !
We play for the fantasy part, but the RL part of the game has ruined it for many (giving TTI a MINER2 bp was a RL decision), allowing exploiters and EBAY item sellers to prosper is against the EULA, read it, answer how and why it has been ignored. "no logs of it" is a BS answer, if they can look at the logs and see whn a person started, stopped, and restarted a skill training session, they surely can read teh part of the log that shows the exploits being USED, time and time again!!!..jeeez....
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Eurydike
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Posted - 2003.08.30 03:13:00 -
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Possible Specializations extra for Singy from the n00b:
Weapons and/or Weapon Upgrades, ECM/ECCM hardware, shield modules, energy modules, propulsion/navigation modules, scanners, mining and/or attack drones, mining equipment, single race's ships, single ship class, single race's ship class... and on and on and on. If you don't see the possible branches, don't blame me.
Also notice that I mentioned that specialization is currently hindered by the lack of possible diversification (you know... every Moa's like the next etc.).
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2003.08.30 03:15:00 -
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Your post has no point to it singular. What are you trying to say exactly? Big corps shouldn't be stronger than small corps? Unlikely, theres an obvious advantage in the combined financial power of many people.
As for your claim that the Miner II bp is responsible for corps like Techell and TTI being so big, you're flat out wrong.
1. TTI was already big before, and lets not forget rich. A Miner II monopoly as you say does not give them a 300mil/day advantage for they wouldnt sell outside the corp anyways.
2. Techell was already pretty big, and yes they did grow.. but thats only because they adopted many freelancers and solo players with their ore contracting and such. They are also quite friendly and im sure they got good publicity when they went public with battleship sales.
So really, what are you trying to say here? Everyone technically had an equal opportunity to get a Miner II bp or rare items if they participated in the Jovian and Container events.. and yes, some people were not in the position to take advantage of that, but thats just bad luck.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.08.30 03:28:00 -
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It would be neat if ships actually required components to build. This way a corp could specialize in something like warp reactor construction. It would be even more interesting if warp reactors in turn also required specialized parts :)
Corporations wanting to go the easier way could just manufcature spaceframes, which solely consist of mineral requirements.
This could apply to all items. Railguns could require magnetic coils, heatsinks could require hydrogen cooling units, you name it.
And if you don't want all the fuss, just buy from the NPC corps.
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Kashre
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Posted - 2003.08.30 03:40:00 -
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Define falling apart? I dont see how any small corps are falling apart personally. My corp is dinky, and we're doing fine...
The only thing Ive seen causing small corps to "fall apart" is the typical zoo of internal personal strife any group of human beings always seems to manage to develop.
What, exactly is the weakness of a small corp? I mean, we sell all our ships, and most of our equipment... we make money... we have our own battleships... we kick ass when ass kicking is called for. I dont expect that we're going to have zillions of dollars like the fat cats at TTI, but then, we have about 1/50th, if that of their personel. oh well, get over it, move on. We're still having fun.
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Temerlyn
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Posted - 2003.08.30 10:19:00 -
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I See posts like this and think to myself how wrong people can be.
First what is classed as a small corp?
Our corp has a listed 100+ people. Its only that size due to cancelled accounts but undeleted characters, alts etc
We have about 15 active members at the most on any one time.
So we are small IMO.
We have an origional scoprion BP 700+ mil
We have built 20+ battleships in the last 5 weeks. Of which 10 are used by corp members the rest got sold.
So whats the real answer to the small corp problem.
Ineffecient leadership.
Lack of goals.
Lack of planning for the future.
Our small corp will have a station just like the bigger corps. We will be able to defend it and utilise it to its fullest.
p.s. we already had a station in beta :P
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Archa
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Posted - 2003.08.30 10:46:00 -
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Why do people always claim that small corps don't have a chance?
Look at unsteady, we have 5 active members now.
from wich 2 are players that started 2 weeks ago and fly a cruiser now.
the other 3 fly a battleship.
How? simple: adept! I trade,mine,hunt what ever is the most lucrative. I alone was able to get myself a battleship before many 20 player corps did and in the meantime i've purchased 3.
So don't give me that crap that you can't compete. Cause if you can't: you aren't smart enough to do it.
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H3R0
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Posted - 2003.08.30 11:00:00 -
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Seems like ccp are misunderstading even more things(how strange)<-Ironic.
I think alot of corps want to be small and dont wanna be in huge ones, like myself.
I like to play with my friends and the ones I trust and not being scammed like bigger corps gets.
Seem slike this game is only for the big corps or the ones that already is so stuck in eve and payed so much for all skilltraining and stuff that they dont think its worth leaving.
But what about all new ones getting tired and all a little older memebrs that just gets boored.
When next big mmorpg comes I wonder how many will stay.
I stay for now cause I like to play with my friends but when next game comes we are out and i guess alot more.
Around 6000ppl being in when the top is in eve each day thats nothing compared to other big mmorpg.
What i see I already see an dead game adn an dead ccp.
Sorry to say but I guess they will be ruined when next big game comes.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.30 11:01:00 -
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Hey, just like in real life, it's not how big it is but how you use it 
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H3R0
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Posted - 2003.08.30 11:07:00 -
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luckily ccp isnt ruling in real life.
Wonder where we would have been doing then.
All unemployed excepp the ones working in big companies.
Sounds like starvation and war to me.
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