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Daemon Horde
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Posted - 2006.02.06 10:20:00 -
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Hey.
I am aware that this topic was propably asked about million times, but i really would like to know your thoughts.
I play WoW for the last year or so, and i got total endgame character in big guild that can take down any obstacle in the game and developed community. Basicaly i got everything you can get in a game.
I was in EVE Beta long time ago, played it only a little and recently i got a trial account and have been playing EVE for last few days.
All in all, i can see lots of parallels between those two games, and yet EVE seems much more advanced and much more mature than kindergarden feeling of WoW.
What i am asking for here is - why would YOU chose EVE over WoW especialy considering high end content and way "end game" functions.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.02.06 10:27:00 -
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The beauty of EVE is ther is no "end game"
You can always develop your character and pursue other goals.
Another huge difference is actions have real consequences. Get killed? You CAN lose all your stuff.
It's a no brainer to be honest. Change to EVE. Do it. Do it now!
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Vistilantus
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Posted - 2006.02.06 10:28:00 -
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Join now, it might be laggy as hell at the moment, but as soon as the new servers are delivered we will hopefully see a HUGE boost in performance.
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Cesar Sunn
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Posted - 2006.02.06 10:29:00 -
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i chose eve over wow because the pace of the game suits me a lot more and doesn't have as much emphasis on powerlevelling. i like the openness and the encouragement to explore.
wow was a constant battle to keep up and to get through as many dungeons as possible. it wasn't a game for me, and as such i stopped enjoying it.
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Kabuuuum
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Posted - 2006.02.06 10:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Daemon Horde
Hey.
All in all, i can see lots of parallels between those two games, and yet EVE seems much more advanced and much more mature than kindergarden feeling of WoW.
this is one of the reasons at least.
more would be the xp reward system which i dont like at all.
and ask urself how many WoW devs do u see posting on the WoW forum when players ask questions ?(then maybe compare it to CCPs dev teams posts :P)
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Flash Landsraad
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Posted - 2006.02.06 10:32:00 -
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I think EVE is the much better game. Much more complex.
 The economy is amasing (an economics major could probably write a thesis on it).
There is no such thing as a 'best' character. Anyone can take down any other person regardless of Skill Points if they are a better pilot. Whilst debatably there are better races there is no such thing as a 'best' ship class - it all depends upon the situation.
There are no complete 'safe' zones meaning unpredictable gameplay (if i want to blow you up in safe space I can and will - I'll just loose a ship over it).
CCP take a laid back approach to ingame 'law enforcement'. Theft is a valid profession (some people make a living from stealing from corps). There's not a damn thing you can do about theft.
Your mistakes are your own and there's not a damn thing you can do about it (i.e. If you put a really expensive ship or module up on market or escrow but accidently leave a few '0's' off the end you can't get it back by a simple petition.
etc, etc, etc...
The simple fact of the matter is EVE is more mature than WoW's 'bashing' style of play. This game requires you to use your brains to overcome situations.
I personally wouldn't even think about quitting EVE for WoW.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2006.02.06 10:45:00 -
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By the way Daemon Horde, if you are worried about losing an uber character in one MMOG for a newbie in another... let me remind you there is a perfectly legal game-money exchange service that you can use to exchange one kind of game money for another. Like, gold for ISK.
You could sell your character and his items for WoW currency... exchange it for (probably a lot of) ISK, and buy a good Eve character with that same ISK.
-omg-
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MachZERO
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:00:00 -
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This game truely has a niche for everyone.
Wanna be a murderous, baby eating, minister of death? Become a pirate/Merc.
Wanna build the biggest baddest fleet possible for your corp? Become an industrialist.
Wanna wage war without firing a single round? Become a market specialist/trader.
You name it and eve has a billet to fill the need. And you are never locked into any one choice. Be an industrialist today and score your first pvp kill next week as a pirate if you want. The choice is yours.
Try not logging into WoW for a couple days and see how far along your character has advanced compared to eve's offline skill advancment. That alone sold me into the eve family. Been hooked for over 2 years now.
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Haks'he Lirky
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:01:00 -
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I just left WoW to come back to eve.
My 12 month stay in WoW left me with two lvl 60's and capable of doing most of the instances WoW had to offer, then after grinding an instance for a few weeks to get some equipment or what not I just got sick of it and besides pvp in WoW was/is a complete joke.
Why choose EVE over WoW?
In EVE you can choose your own high end content, even create your own.
In EVE your playstyle is not hampered by a class choice you made 60 lvls ago.
In EVE your character skills matter more than equipment.
In EVE your character can continue to grow endlessly (no lvl cap)
In EVE you can design your own character.
In EVE your not forced to grind mindlessly for equipment.
In EVE you can take a break and still advance your character.
In WoW you get premade content.
In WoW you get a premade character.
In WoW you get pre tailored equipment for your character.
In WoW your choices are limited by the vision of the developers.
In WoW you need to grind for every high level equipment content you want/need, even goes to the lenght of not being a choice. If you want to play above a certain level your just grinding.
EVE high end game content can be reached by low skill point characters, you dont need 20million skill points to be able to participate in the high end stuff. Just need to show some intiative and drive. No need to grind for fire resist gear and yadda yadda belch.
And the community, single server for the whole community, in EVE gives you a chance to talk to and play with every person that playes eve. This bugged me alot when playing WoW as my server choice distanced me from people I would have wanted to play with (didnt know they were or would want to play wow when I made the server choice).
Oh and the pvp, oh man the pvp, when I came back to eve my corp was at war and getting the adrenaline in the first 15 minutes of logging back into my crow interceptor and go chasing targets just caught me straight of the bat, cancelled my wow accounts and I have not looked back in over 3 weeks so far. |
Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:03:00 -
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WoW sucks.
It bores you in a matter of minutes.
There is no difference at any level--each level is equally crap and boring.
All new content consists of high level dungeons that need 16 hours to play through and 200 other people and drop a grand total of two loot items.
The game gets worse towards level 60, not better.
Crafting sucks.
Overall, its without a doubt the most dumbed-down and worst major MMORPG on the market.
EVE, on the other hand, gives you near infinite freedom. There is no endgame. It never gets boring. Or to say it better: If one thing gets boring, do something else.
EVE to World of Warcraft is like Chess to Tic Tac Toe.
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spRAYed
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:06:00 -
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EvE : 13+
WoW : Any idiot with his fathers wallet can buy a timecard at the local store and pick flowers all day..
EvE 4tw...
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:12:00 -
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They both suck. Bring on trials of ascension.
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Jowen Datloran
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:17:00 -
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Playing WoW was like reading a good book. What I did what interesting to me and of very little to others. I really enjoyed questing to level 60.
Sadly that was the only thing a casual and mostly solo player can get out of WoW. Every time I hit 60 the game was over for that toon and I had to start a new to keep interest. After the third I had had enough.
The end game content of WoW gives little option if you don't have at least 3-4 hours straight to dedicate to the game. EVE don't do that, and I feel much better after returning.
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CursedFox
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:21:00 -
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I left WoW for EVE. Miss the ppl I left behind, but I love the fact EVE has no real "end game" per say unlike WoW. I was in a high end raiding guild, got sick of doing the same 2 dungeons all week long, so I left. Plus I'm not thrilled about having to pay out another 20 bucks or so for a expansion. I was paying blizzard a monthy fee so I didnt have to 
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Deus XI
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:21:00 -
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I just quit wow for eve, and it was an easy choice since I grew bored with wow.
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Damo Pendragon
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:26:00 -
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I left EVE for WoW but have my EVE account still active. For training skills and etc.
I find WoW more enjoyable for shorter game playing periods and EVE is good when I come home hammered drunk and feel like risking my BS in 0.0.
EVE is a great game and I wish I could get back into it but imho WoW is a bit more interesting in the short term. Lets face it takes an hour to do anything in WoW.
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MotorBreath
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon
By the way Daemon Horde, if you are worried about losing an uber character in one MMOG for a newbie in another... let me remind you there is a perfectly legal game-money exchange service that you can use to exchange one kind of game money for another. Like, gold for ISK.
You could sell your character and his items for WoW currency... exchange it for (probably a lot of) ISK, and buy a good Eve character with that same ISK.
He is very wrong. You can not do that without risking confiscation of isk and a possible ban. Earning isk is easy though, and joining a corp (guild) can be very rewarding.
The best part is that, no matter how inexperienced you are, everything you do can be an adventure.
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maximyus
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:31:00 -
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Eh is wow not a little boys game ?
I tried to play that coh game aswell it suked beyong belief.
EVE is my first online game and every other mmorp i looked at seem crap to me.
but hey each to their own ....
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:35:00 -
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I left WoW to return to EVE, after a rather long break.
to put it simply... if your considering it, its like a animal thats been bit in half by a predator.
its already dead. it just doesn't neccesarily know it yet.
in this case... WoW, at least for a while... is already lost to you. you can fight it if you want, but honestly might as well start tying up what loose ends you can, and say your goodbyes.
don't worry, you'll soon think about what your "missing" very little.
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Bl4zer
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:48:00 -
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If I wanted an honest opinion about the strengths and weaknesses of Windows XP, then it would be very stupid of me to post my question on a Microsoft hosted forum full of Microsoft fanboys.
Similarly asking if Eve is better that WoW on a forum hosted by CCP and full of Eve fanboys is going to get the answer:
Eve rools, Wow suks.
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Tony Fats
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:49:00 -
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Thats like asking if you should leave Diablo 2 for Eve.
No, you shouldn't.
Its different types of games.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Bl4zer
If I wanted an honest opinion about the strengths and weaknesses of Windows XP, then it would be very stupid of me to post my question on a Microsoft hosted forum full of Microsoft fanboys.
Similarly asking if Eve is better that WoW on a forum hosted by CCP and full of Eve fanboys is going to get the answer:
Eve rools, Wow suks.
EVE fanboys?
Maybe if we never pointed out flaws in EVE and griped about things that are going wrong, you could call us that.
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Brother Benthor
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:53:00 -
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WoW when u reach level 60, that character ends basikly... the problem with EVE is that u have to buy "time" since RealTime Trainning makes leveling in EVE a bit slow.. since u cant never be stronger then someone already playing (unless they stop trainning) so its better to buy a character (ISKs) that already has all that time in advance (skills trainned, etc) then actually reach there. I started EVE again cause at seems my old character didnt get deleted, so half the skills where done, but if i had started a new one, with all the new T2 stuff added to eve since i left... i dont think i would start it at all.
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Zhou Yu
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Posted - 2006.02.06 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Zhou Yu on 06/02/2006 12:26:44
I gave wow a go on a 10 day trial on friday.
Its a nice game and definately falls into the category of a rpg.
I don't see myself playing past the free trial because with all level based games theres a limit. Once you've maxed your char and got all the best items theres nothing left to do except wait for the developers to add new mobs every month. Kinda been there before in E&B so im not keen to do it again.
I enjoy eve because its more open ended, but EVE needs to add a more things to keep it fun and not just rely on plays to create their own fun.
The player base here is definately a lot more mature.
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Darwinia
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Posted - 2006.02.06 12:33:00 -
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You only need to look here
to see why EVE is far superior to any MMO out there. All the traning systems/space opera/PvP goodnes aside, I think most people don't realise just how open ended EVE is. There is no other game that allows players to affect the world as much. (ok, there are such games as Second life, but it's a different genre/setup altogether)
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Celedris
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Posted - 2006.02.06 12:42:00 -
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I'm a new Eve player, and I would say that this is a much better long-term game. I recommend playing WoW for a few months, get your character from 1 to 60. Its a great experience, and the storyline and quests are very well done.
I played WoW for about a year, with three level 60 characters. The problem with WoW is that it was designed in the same fashion as Blizzard's single-player games: it is linear, and once you reach the end, there isnt much left to do.
Sure, you can join a high-end raiding guild and grind the same two mega-dungeons month after month (I did this for a few months), but this soon loses its appeal. Learning to coordinate 40 people properly is a real challenge, but there is unfortunately little to do besides that. Real PvP in WoW does not exist. You have instanced battleground areas where pre-made teams fight.. they are basically 10-15 man duels.
The remaining 90% of the game world where PvP could happen is left unplayed and unexplored, as there is nothing for a high-level character to do there.
Also, the crafting system is horrible because there is no "loss" is Warcraft. Sure, you have a modest repair bill if you die enough times, and you have to pay for potions, but you will never have to buy a set of armor twice.
Also, the average age (or maturity level) of people in warcraft leaves much to be desired.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.02.06 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
They both suck. Bring on trials of ascension.
Come play GW with us ffs :)
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Traiben Mightius
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Posted - 2006.02.06 14:05:00 -
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I played EVE for voer a year and then quit to play WoW. I was really annoyed with EVE as it had become like a second job trying to deal with corp politics, manage resources, the usual deal... really frustrating.
Then I played WoW since launch... after a year there I realized just how thin that game really is. WoW IS kindergarten. It's lightweight, you do not have to think too much, and you just sort of grind along doing the same thing over and over.
That wore me out. So I have come back to EVE (to the happy surprise that my character still lived) and I REALLY see how far the gap between them is. EVE is really nothing but potential... frustrating as hell many times, but there is so much room to get around what frustrates you.
Basically, if you don't like the game, play it a different way... few games really allow for that. 
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High Sierra
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Posted - 2006.02.06 17:27:00 -
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just keep one thing in mind.
In WoW if you take a break from the game, when you come back your character will be in exactly the same state as you left it.
If you take a break in EvE, you can come back to a character that has grown while you left it and is now capable of flying some serious ships.
there is NO other game out there that does this.
The only drawback to EvE is that the politics can be pretty invasive if you join an alliance, but theres a niche for everyone.
Oh add in the fact that changing your character from a miner to a fighter does not involve starting an entirely new character.
I wouldnt say WoW sucks, just the compared to EvE it doesnt really match up.
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Zaris
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Posted - 2006.02.06 23:01:00 -
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The PLAYER created political structure in EVE is amazing...each player may decide who he wants to be associated with and then later on change his mind & join up with a previous enemy. In WoW, the player gets a choice of one of the 2 DEVELOPER created factions and then your done with politics(before the game even starts!).
In EVE, the player made factions may conquer/control areas of the game galaxy & build their own structures in those areas, and thus control the important resources(asteroid fields & complexes). In WoW, the players cannot build their own towns & control/conquer an area...and as for political control of resources, you just simply go on a raid into an instance for your resources(cool loot drops).
In short, EVE is about PLAYER control over the game, whereas WoW is about playing in a DEVELOPER designed & controlled environment.
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