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Zions Child
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.03 02:11:00 -
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But they make me feel like one of those douchebags who wear Che Guevara shirts. Still, basically a middle of the line computer with instant on or close to it and fantastic multitasking capability at under three pounds. Also, OS X Lion is fantastic. Why did no one ever tell me this before?
Out of curiosity, what are people's experiences with the PC Ultrabooks? I've heard varying things about them. |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.03 05:28:00 -
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You made me wonder so I got to ask: Does it play EvE?
Life is short and dinner time is chancy
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Alpheias
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Posted - 2011.11.03 11:48:00 -
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I was gonna ask. Can you install other apps than Apple's own or do you need to jailbreak it?
I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies
I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Lord Ryan
True Xero
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Posted - 2011.11.03 13:10:00 -
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Bit off topic. I bought a Mac Mini last week, plays Eve fine. On higher settings it get pretty loud. On lower setting it seems fine. I did return it yesterday, not because anything was wrong with it. I have a Big Mac as my primary machine and figured a PC as a sendondary would give me more gaming options.
Bit on topic. If the mini works the book should too.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=29043&find=unread
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Zions Child
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.03 19:45:00 -
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You can play EVE with the Air, just not with high settings in the CQ or anything like that. Space is lovely though. And no, you don't have to jailbreak it to install non-Apple applications :p It just needs to work with OS X (although you can dual boot if you're that needy). |
Headerman
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.11.03 20:20:00 -
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Do you have to wear a turtle neck to use it?
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.03 20:27:00 -
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Headerman wrote:Do you have to wear a turtle neck to use it?
Don't be mean like that.
Even my iBook G3 does not need turtle neck and speaks to the right click button on my mouse. 
Life is short and dinner time is chancy
Eat desert first! |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:30:00 -
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I played with one a while back. I was unimpressed. It's small and light...and has lackluster performace (for a person like me), doesn't have the ports I want, and has a tiny screen. Plus, it's absurdly expensive for what it does. (but then it is a Mac) |
Zions Child
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:56:00 -
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@Headerman yes, it requires a black turtleneck. Otherwise it tells you that you're not worthy. Also, only hipster music can be downloaded to the hard drive.
@Floppie, how long ago did you try one? The recent ones (released in June or July of this year) are much better than previous iterations. I don't require a powerful computer when I'm on the go, (that's what my PC desktop is for), and its not that expensive compared to other ultraportables. |
Lithalnas
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
3
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:11:00 -
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I think you all should be reminded on Intel's Ultrabook project. An asus zenbook ux31 review can be found here for the intel powered windows ulrathin laptop that wants to be a macbook air. And i think it even runs eve(though not well) on an intel 3000 series on chip gpu.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/21902
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Zions Child
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:26:00 -
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Lithalnas wrote:I think you all should be reminded on Intel's Ultrabook project. An asus zenbook ux31 review can be found here for the intel powered windows ulrathin laptop that wants to be a macbook air. And i think it even runs eve(though not well) on an intel 3000 series on chip gpu. http://techreport.com/articles.x/21902
It's almost exactly like my Air... |
Alpheias
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Posted - 2011.11.04 00:49:00 -
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Zions Child wrote:Lithalnas wrote:I think you all should be reminded on Intel's Ultrabook project. An asus zenbook ux31 review can be found here for the intel powered windows ulrathin laptop that wants to be a macbook air. And i think it even runs eve(though not well) on an intel 3000 series on chip gpu. http://techreport.com/articles.x/21902 It's almost exactly like my Air...
For half the price.
I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies
I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2011.11.04 02:06:00 -
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Headerman wrote:Do you have to wear a turtle neck to use it?
I was also wondering this.
Do you need to listen to pink floid and drink PBR to get the thing to boot faster?
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Zindela
Aegeonix Systems
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Posted - 2011.11.04 02:16:00 -
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If I wanted a computer to be that small and portable, chances are I'm not going to be doing any high intensity gaming on it.
That's why I have my Asus transformer. All the portability, none of the annoying Apple limitations, insane battery life with the keyboard, and the office software is just as good as LibreOffice on my desktop. Plus it's a touchscreen. Oh, did I mention it cost a half of the Air? |
Zions Child
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 02:50:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Zions Child wrote:Lithalnas wrote:I think you all should be reminded on Intel's Ultrabook project. An asus zenbook ux31 review can be found here for the intel powered windows ulrathin laptop that wants to be a macbook air. And i think it even runs eve(though not well) on an intel 3000 series on chip gpu. http://techreport.com/articles.x/21902 It's almost exactly like my Air... For half the price.
Do you do research? Or do you just spout things off like Fox News? That ultraportable is $1100. My Air was $1100 (with the $50 discount) for what is essentially the same computer (my Air has a slightly better processor). |
Zions Child
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 03:01:00 -
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Zindela wrote:If I wanted a computer to be that small and portable, chances are I'm not going to be doing any high intensity gaming on it.
That's why I have my Asus transformer. All the portability, none of the annoying Apple limitations, insane battery life with the keyboard, and the office software is just as good as LibreOffice on my desktop. Plus it's a touchscreen. Oh, did I mention it cost a half of the Air?
OpenOffice is what I use on the Mac, I have the Microsoft Suite on my PC (Got it of free, and legit). I looked at the Asus Transformer, but it wasn't what I wanted in a portable computing device, I didn't find it powerful enough to do the things I wanted to do. Plus, I didn't want to deal with a Tablet OS (as much as I love Android).
Still, I don't see why people think the Air is overpriced, current ultraportables that have the same or similar quality are just about the same price. Mac's computers are generally overpriced, and so are a lot of their accessories, but the Air is the one thing they don't sell like retards.
And @Xenuria, I answered that question. And no, you don't have to drink PBR, and I already mentioned that the hard drive refuses to allow non-hipster music to be played. And god help you if you aren't listening to it "ironically." |
NightmareX
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
4
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Posted - 2011.11.04 23:44:00 -
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Do like me, buy the Apple MacBook Air 11.6 inch model (2010 model), then take it home.
When you arrive at home, then install rEFIt on Mac OSX so you can boot up USB sticks with Windows 7 on. After doing that, download the Boot Camp drivers on your main computer from the Apple website.
After that, do this. And when you are installing Windows 7, then delete all of the partitions and create some new partitions. One for Windows 7 and maybe 1 or 2 for games and other stuffs.
Then you install Windows 7 and says bugger off to Mac OSX  . And when you are in Windows 7, then you just installs Boot Camp and voila, you have one of the best ultrabooks with the best OS in the world
Only pros do like me. |
Saint Lazarus
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 01:44:00 -
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I dont mean to troll....but seriously whats the point of these ultrabooks, 1000+ for a glorified netbook with the power of a low end PC. Ok laptops can be a little bulky but for same price range or under you could have a beast.
It as simple as some people are just willing to pay that much extra for it to be extra thin?
Edit: For the record, I have a netbook and I LOVE it, but it was 200 euro |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2011.11.07 02:06:00 -
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Saint Lazarus wrote:I dont mean to troll....but seriously whats the point of these ultrabooks, 1000+ for a glorified netbook with the power of a low end PC. Ok laptops can be a little bulky but for same price range or under you could have a beast.
It as simple as some people are just willing to pay that much extra for it to be extra thin?
Edit: For the record, I have a netbook and I LOVE it, but it was 200 euro
It is a niche item. I can see someone who travels and want large screen and keyboard buying one. Most of us don't need it, but some few do.
Life is short and dinner time is chancy
Eat desert first! |
NightmareX
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
4
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Posted - 2011.11.08 00:28:00 -
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Saint Lazarus wrote:I dont mean to troll....but seriously whats the point of these ultrabooks, 1000+ for a glorified netbook with the power of a low end PC. Ok laptops can be a little bulky but for same price range or under you could have a beast.
It as simple as some people are just willing to pay that much extra for it to be extra thin?
Edit: For the record, I have a netbook and I LOVE it, but it was 200 euro
So you are comparing a poor ass plastic fantastic netbook to a MacBook Air ?
If that's the case, then   |
Zions Child
Odyssey Inc
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
18
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Posted - 2011.11.08 00:43:00 -
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People who dislike the MacBook Air just haven's used the most recent one. It's fantastic, and I hate Apple products with a passion (well, the iPad has a lot of potential but is kinda pricy, and the iPhone is a good piece of hardware, but MacBook Pro, iMac, and all the accessories are overpriced as ****).
Anyways, MacBook Air is a quality laptop, a $400 netbook is a piece of useless crap compared to an Air. Plus, can you play EVE without much issue (besides the chance of thermonuclear fusion happening in the corner) on a $400 netbook? |
Netheranthem
Eve Engineering Finance
Eve Engineering
1
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Posted - 2011.11.08 21:16:00 -
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Zions Child wrote:People who dislike the MacBook Air just haven's used the most recent one. It's fantastic, and I hate Apple products with a passion (well, the iPad has a lot of potential but is kinda pricy, and the iPhone is a good piece of hardware, but MacBook Pro, iMac, and all the accessories are overpriced as ****).
Anyways, MacBook Air is a quality laptop, a $400 netbook is a piece of useless crap compared to an Air. Plus, can you play EVE without much issue (besides the chance of thermonuclear fusion happening in the corner) on a $400 netbook?
Except the notebook cost less than half the MacBook Air, and you're probably running windows on it, which makes it a bad comparison.
$250 netbook with Archlinux, best thing I bought this year. It doesn't run eve, but hey it's the quarter of the cost of a MacBook Air, barely heavier, and probably faster overall, with an OS that's designed to be fast.
It's a quality laptop with a crappy OS and a totally off the charts price, but hey! It's quality... |
Zions Child
Odyssey Inc
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
18
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:35:00 -
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Netheranthem wrote:Zions Child wrote:People who dislike the MacBook Air just haven's used the most recent one. It's fantastic, and I hate Apple products with a passion (well, the iPad has a lot of potential but is kinda pricy, and the iPhone is a good piece of hardware, but MacBook Pro, iMac, and all the accessories are overpriced as ****).
Anyways, MacBook Air is a quality laptop, a $400 netbook is a piece of useless crap compared to an Air. Plus, can you play EVE without much issue (besides the chance of thermonuclear fusion happening in the corner) on a $400 netbook? Except the notebook cost less than half the MacBook Air, and you're probably running windows on it, which makes it a bad comparison. $250 netbook with Archlinux, best thing I bought this year. It doesn't run eve, but hey it's the quarter of the cost of a MacBook Air, barely heavier, and probably faster overall, with an OS that's designed to be fast. It's a quality laptop with a crappy OS and a totally off the charts price, but hey! It's quality...
I learned long ago not to argue with people who use linux with some semblance of exclusivity and skill. You people have one opinion, and are determined to inform everyone that its the only opinion. Enjoy your snobbishness!
(P.S. I recognize the irony, coming from someone who now uses a MacBook Air, but I've learned to not judge a computer or its OS till I've used it, there are some distress of Linux I like, but its not the only and most godly OS group in the world). |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
271
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Posted - 2011.11.09 01:41:00 -
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Zions Child wrote:I learned long ago not to argue with people who use linux with some semblance of exclusivity and skill. You people have one opinion, and are determined to inform everyone that its the only opinion.
After the number of times you've crowed about the Air in response to every criticism of it, you don't have much room to harp on others for having strong opinions.
The Air, like other Apple computers, is a solid piece of hardware with a mediocre OS (and I'm comparing it to Windows) and a price tag that puts it outside my budget. For the price of an Air, I can buy a far superior Windows computer. Since I'm capable of carrying more than two pounds at a time, I'm not concerned with "ultraportable" and won't pay the premium attached to any such device.
I have the same opinion on the MacBook Pro. Great laptop, horrible price. I'll buy something else. |
Zions Child
Odyssey Inc
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2011.11.09 01:45:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Zions Child wrote:I learned long ago not to argue with people who use linux with some semblance of exclusivity and skill. You people have one opinion, and are determined to inform everyone that its the only opinion. After the number of times you've crowed about the Air in response to every criticism of it, you don't have much room to harp on others for having strong opinions. The Air, like other Apple computers, is a solid piece of hardware with a mediocre OS (and I'm comparing it to Windows) and a price tag that puts it outside my budget. For the price of an Air, I can buy a far superior Windows computer. Since I'm capable of carrying more than two pounds at a time, I'm not concerned with "ultraportable" and won't pay the premium attached to any such device. I have the same opinion on the MacBook Pro. Great laptop, horrible price. I'll buy something else.
I don't see where you think I'm crowing on about it, I say I enjoy the laptop and it fits a particular need very well. Comparable laptops that fit the same need are about the same price. I don't mind the OS, but I guess others hate Mac OSX. You're entitled to your opinion, but you say the MacBook Air is **** and that people only get it because its an Apple product, which is simply not true. Out of curiosity, have you used the MacBook Air (the most recent model) for any length of time? |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2011.11.09 03:08:00 -
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Netheranthem wrote:Zions Child wrote:People who dislike the MacBook Air just haven's used the most recent one. It's fantastic, and I hate Apple products with a passion (well, the iPad has a lot of potential but is kinda pricy, and the iPhone is a good piece of hardware, but MacBook Pro, iMac, and all the accessories are overpriced as ****).
Anyways, MacBook Air is a quality laptop, a $400 netbook is a piece of useless crap compared to an Air. Plus, can you play EVE without much issue (besides the chance of thermonuclear fusion happening in the corner) on a $400 netbook? Except the notebook cost less than half the MacBook Air, and you're probably running windows on it, which makes it a bad comparison. $250 netbook with Archlinux, best thing I bought this year. It doesn't run eve, but hey it's the quarter of the cost of a MacBook Air, barely heavier, and probably faster overall, with an OS that's designed to be fast. It's a quality laptop with a crappy OS and a totally off the charts price, but hey! It's quality...
I want netbook to replace by PDA (Toshiba E800/805). I barely use my laptop (iBook G3) to begin with, it almost never leaves the house, replacing a laptop is not an issue for me.
Netbook will not work for someone who needs full size screen, full size keyboard and needs to travel.
My sister was asking me about replacing her laptop (something G4, not Air) with netbook. She travels, but she found out that she does not really need laptop while she does. I think you are a person in similar situation.
Life is short and dinner time is chancy
Eat desert first! |
Dray
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
5
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Posted - 2011.11.09 22:05:00 -
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The Mac Book Air is a massive waste of money, for a little extra you can get a macbook, tbh I would just spend the extra and get a MacBook Pro.
The fact the sold any at all is testament to the strength of the Apple brand, and nothing at all about what you get for your pennies.
I've been using Mac portables for over 10 years now and I wouldn't bother with the Air even though they are coming down in price I would spend extra and get a MBP.
Son you done got trolled by Mr Apple. |
Zions Child
Odyssey Inc
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
23
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Posted - 2011.11.09 22:53:00 -
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Dray wrote:The Mac Book Air is a massive waste of money, for a little extra you can get a macbook, tbh I would just spend the extra and get a MacBook Pro.
The fact the sold any at all is testament to the strength of the Apple brand, and nothing at all about what you get for your pennies.
I've been using Mac portables for over 10 years now and I wouldn't bother with the Air even though they are coming down in price I would spend extra and get a MBP.
Son you done got trolled by Mr Apple.
No? I believe you are wrong monsieur. |
NightmareX
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
4
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Posted - 2011.11.10 00:02:00 -
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Dray wrote:The Mac Book Air is a massive waste of money, for a little extra you can get a macbook, tbh I would just spend the extra and get a MacBook Pro.
The fact the sold any at all is testament to the strength of the Apple brand, and nothing at all about what you get for your pennies.
I've been using Mac portables for over 10 years now and I wouldn't bother with the Air even though they are coming down in price I would spend extra and get a MBP.
Son you done got trolled by Mr Apple.
Ehm, sir, i own both the MacBook Air (my own) and i have the MacBook Pro (got it from the school). And there is one thing you need to get your facts right on. And that is that the MacBook Pro with a normal harddrive is 3-4 times slower to load things than my 11.6 inch MacBook Air (2010 model) does.
When it comes to rendering stuffs in Adobe Photoshop or working with Adobe Premiere Pro or Adobe After Effects and programs like those who need CPU power, then for sure the MacBook Pro will come in handy. But for speed on loading and starting programs, the MacBook Pro feels like i'm using a laptop from 2002 compared to how the speed is on my MacBook Air.
Now i'm using Windows 7 on my MacBook Air, but with Mac OSX installed on it, the Air is just crazy fast. |
Dray
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:44:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Dray wrote:The Mac Book Air is a massive waste of money, for a little extra you can get a macbook, tbh I would just spend the extra and get a MacBook Pro.
The fact the sold any at all is testament to the strength of the Apple brand, and nothing at all about what you get for your pennies.
I've been using Mac portables for over 10 years now and I wouldn't bother with the Air even though they are coming down in price I would spend extra and get a MBP.
Son you done got trolled by Mr Apple. Ehm, sir, i own both the MacBook Air (my own) and i have the MacBook Pro (got it from the school). And there is one thing you need to get your facts right on. And that is that the MacBook Pro with a normal harddrive is 3-4 times slower to load things than my 11.6 inch MacBook Air (2010 model) does. When it comes to rendering stuffs in Adobe Photoshop or working with Adobe Premiere Pro or Adobe After Effects and programs like those who need CPU power, then for sure the MacBook Pro will come in handy. But for speed on loading and starting programs, the MacBook Pro feels like i'm using a laptop from 2002 compared to how the speed is on my MacBook Air. Now i'm using Windows 7 on my MacBook Air, but with Mac OSX installed on it, the Air is just crazy fast.
And it's still an overpriced bauble.....
You can keep your 3-4x faster in certain circumstances Air, I'll stick with the MBP, also you have both, wtf were you thinking?
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