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Sentani	Posted - 2006.02.08 12:40:00 - [1] ive come to a point where i HAVE to get a Battleship... ive kinda avoided Battleships becouse its such a big investment (got AFs instead)... ive flown all the Battleships on test serv and i liked the Mega for its railsguns, the domi for its Nos and drones, the scorp for its EW and the raven for its ballance of firepower and tank... so im really torn between all of these ships... ive got about egual SP in gunnery and missiles... i thinks its a question about wich ships to get 1st i really need some advise im planning on using it in 0.0 for ratting and PvP... ____________ The cargo bay is overloaded and cannot be made to fit Expanded Cargohold I. It is currently only capable of fitting 8772.12 units and it is currently jammed full with 9558.33 units.
Berrik Radhok	Posted - 2006.02.08 12:46:00 - [2] For PVP, can't go wrong with a vampire Domi. It kills almost anything 1v1.
Kaleeb	Posted - 2006.02.08 12:54:00 - [3] Raven is a very good all round ship and is a good bs for small gang pvp as it needs relatively low skill points to be flown well
Antoinette Civari	Posted - 2006.02.08 13:17:00 - [4] Originally by: Kaleeb Raven is a very good all round ship and is a good bs for small gang pvp as it needs relatively low skill points to be flown well agreed, it's only drawback is the flightime of missiles which will gimp you in long range battles. On the other hand I'd never switch my megathron for a raven because it has way more class than those boring caldari ships, especially in blaster mode ;)
Ephemeron	Posted - 2006.02.08 13:21:00 - [5] As a domi and mega pilot, I recommend Raven :-)
photorks	Posted - 2006.02.08 13:35:00 - [6] Originally by: Ephemeron As a domi and mega pilot, I recommend Raven :-) ...ye for npc'ing rofl. Blasterthron and Nosdomi pwn like hell in 1v1
rig0r	Posted - 2006.02.08 13:36:00 - [7] Originally by: Antoinette Civari Originally by: Kaleeb Raven is a very good all round ship and is a good bs for small gang pvp as it needs relatively low skill points to be flown well agreed, it's only drawback is the flightime of missiles which will gimp you in long range battles. On the other hand I'd never switch my megathron for a raven because it has way more class than those boring caldari ships, especially in blaster mode ;) I love you !
Fridge oblivion	Posted - 2006.02.08 13:39:00 - [8] Let your drone skill decide for you --------------- When I was young I wanted to be me, my childhood dream came true
Twisted Dreams	Posted - 2006.02.08 13:52:00 - [9] as a pilot of a VampDomi and a blasterthron i have to say fr PVPing these ships are brilliant nd can take any target 1vs1 blasterthon has a bit of trouble 1 vs 1 with a raven if it cannot get close enough but if u can get close enough ur a winner also ratting in a domi is exelent jsut armour tank and let ur drones do with work a perfect lazy pilots ship .
Shemaul	Posted - 2006.02.08 13:58:00 - [10] Raven is not the only choice in Caldari BS Shipyard. A good ECM Scorpion still do the job in PVP quite good.
Valeria Wolf	Posted - 2006.02.08 14:33:00 - [11] Do what I do and get them all :)
Jon Xylur	Posted - 2006.02.08 14:40:00 - [12] Domi and Raven are the ultimate solopwnmonile BSs. Domi is especially good agains smaller ships, since it can carry small, med and alrge drones at the smae time. Add a lot of Nosses and anything smaller than a BS is dead and BSs will be sucked out of cap and slowly ripped apart by you'r drones. Raven on the other hand is the ultimate BS vs BS ship. It's damage outpout is ridiculosly high, especially as it can allso put up a good tank and hit targets from afar (for less damage thanks to the missile flight time, but it still does damage). 1vs1 Against any other BSs Raven is basicly invincible (A Scorp might be able to jam it but it's the msot resistant to ECM of all the BSs and since missiles don't need no cap it would kill a Nos Domi before it'd drones could do any serious damage)
Valea Silpha	Posted - 2006.02.08 14:41:00 - [13] Vampiedomis do seem to be the flavor of the week, which still annoys the hell outta me. Being able to attack any sized target and not loose much damage and to VERY quickly destroy anything that could tackle you's ability to hold you down... it just seems to be .. dare i say it... too easy .... However, if you run into a blasterthron in your domi, you may as well start ejecting as he locks you. They can put out some AWESOME damage and will almsot certainly gank you before your drones really get going. Remember .. you can out-gank a tank, but you can't out-tank a gank.
Gronsak	Posted - 2006.02.08 14:47:00 - [14] domi isnt that overpowered tbh. 1; you can kill its drones. 2; you can kill him before you die [easilly doable in many many ships] 3; heavy drones dont hit small ships [this is a fact my taranis laughs at heavy drones] 4; it looses its weapons if it warps out 5; as BS go its DPS isnt great at all. [375DPS max useing thermal t2 drones iirc. less with other damage]. but i hate fkying them. so change it into a diff ship is a pure bonous to me
Phoenicia	Posted - 2006.02.08 14:50:00 - [15] I can fly all four of those ships and I keep finding myself coming back to the Raven and Scorp. With the proper racial jammers, I¦d be willing to go up against a Mega and a Domi at the same time in a Scorp, and I¦d be confident about taking out at least one of them. And a Raven, with decent missile skills, can deliver its damage over a range of almost 200km. Sure, it takes a while for the damage to actually reach the target but hell, you don¦t switch to a longer-range lower-damage ammo; the damage is exactly the same as if you would be at 10km! I wubs my Caldari BS! Please reduce the width of your signature to be smaller than 400pixels please - Jacques'
Valea Silpha	Posted - 2006.02.08 16:10:00 - [16] Originally by: Gronsak domi isnt that overpowered tbh. 1; you can kill its drones. 2; you can kill him before you die [easilly doable in many many ships] 3; heavy drones dont hit small ships [this is a fact my taranis laughs at heavy drones] 4; it looses its weapons if it warps out 5; as BS go its DPS isnt great at all. [375DPS max useing thermal t2 drones iirc. less with other damage]. but i hate fkying them. so change it into a diff ship is a pure bonous to me Its not overpowered as such, its just that unless your in a set-up that can beat its tank FAST the best you can hope for is a draw, and since I like 'balanced' set-ups with less than maxed out firepower and with a decent tank normally for NPC use i find the domi to be the most annoying. Throns can gank me all day, i always feel that you have to all out to produce a true gank set-up which leaves you weakened on some level either to ewar or nos or speed or SOMETHING. Domis get their full rack of nos and neuts, and a shed load of ECM or cap gear in mids, and a brutally hard tank in lows. And they can launch the apropriate drones for whatever target presents itself... Can't even go for a group of frigs to evade firepower. Im not saying nerf it or anything ... just would be nice to see them have some slight cut to make them less versatile... maybe only a damage bonus to heavy drones ?
Yarek Balear	Posted - 2006.02.08 16:27:00 - [17] I've flown all 4 in the past and I'm currently using a Raven for NPCing and training up T2 large hybrids/blasters and going to get another megathron. It just wasn't good enough with basic guns and I couldn't be arsed spending the isk needed for 425 protos... As you said that your gunnery and missile skills are virtually on a par, I'd have to say go with the Raven if your Missile/Gunnery aren't that high, but if you can use T2 large guns etc then go for the Megathron. An averaged skilled pilot in a Raven will be a lot more dangerous (to NPCs and PCs) than an average skilled pilot in a Megathron. As someone else said, let your drone skills be the deciding factor. If you have low drone skills, then what I've said above holds true, as your Domi skills won't be up to much until you train the drones. If you have decent drone skills though the Domi is a great ship...
Ginaz	Posted - 2006.02.08 16:54:00 - [18] Edited by: Ginaz on 08/02/2006 16:57:41 Edited by: Ginaz on 08/02/2006 16:56:38 you will hardly gank a domi with 1600mm, LAR T2, 2x nano membrane T2, Explo/kin/thermal hardener T2. Had a railtron (sure not a ganking-setup) warping in at his optimal (stupid cov-ops)... he hit me for 20-50dmg... All BS are very very good ships and all of them can do very well in pvp. Typhoon is NOS+AC, Tempest is range or AC+EW, Scorp is EW but bad dmg, Raven is tank(best burst-dmg-tank)+dmg at all ranges, mega is awsome for sniping and ganking but weak on cap, domi is a monster shortranged and fubar longrange (lonely), geddon got it's "gank" back with t2 crystals and apoc is a nice sturdy ..old woman... all of them rock and it all depends on your setup and your skills - Blood-Squadron - the infamous griefer from the Jumpgate Universe reached Eve! Now we are cuddly, soon we are dreaded!

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