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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:00:00 -
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Imagine the Server load as it suddenly has to track over 1 billion missiles in flight at any given time.
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Helen Tiger
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:05:00 -
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 Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
Imagine the Server load as it suddenly has to track over 1 billion missiles in flight at any given time.
Just what are you refering to ?
Helen
Originally by: Kittamaru
Bravo Helen! (...)
Never seen someone do their research before disproving another's point!
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2006.02.14 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
I'll believe CCP over you. Period.
You know the big "WANTED" stamp that they have for pirates? Do you think they have one just for Maya that says "GULLIBLE"?
But again, you misread the argument. I'm not asking you to believe ME. Instead, why don't you try explaining the behaviour I described WITHOUT using the word "tracking" or some synonym that means "tracking"?
Monty Pythons spoof of the EVE Forums;
Palin: "Is this the right room for an argument?"
Cleese: "I've told you once." |
TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2006.02.14 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Helen Tiger
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
Imagine the Server load as it suddenly has to track over 1 billion missiles in flight at any given time.
Just what are you refering to ?
Helen
Que ?
Im refering to the fact that inorder to lock a missile, or Dare I say it web it, You need to basically as far as the game goes turn them into ships. They need sig penalties, velocity mods, Mass Which needs to be applied to the current way the server uses missiles.
I.E Missiles are a simple calculation at the moment, adding lockability and other factors means that you will need to make the servers do more calculations. I plucked a number outta my head 1 billion because not only do you have to consider players but you also have to consider NPC's use missiles also. |
Grey Area
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Posted - 2006.02.14 17:25:00 -
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No you are overcomplicating.
The module is a dumb idea as suggested, but if it WAS included, it would just have a larger radius than the ship generating it. The "slowdown" effect would just kick in then...a much simpler calculation, as the system already calculates when a ship has been hit, this would just be a calculation when the ship plus the volume of the web had been hit.
But as all seem to agree, this is dead, so why bother?
Monty Pythons spoof of the EVE Forums;
Palin: "Is this the right room for an argument?"
Cleese: "I've told you once." |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.02.15 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Helen Tiger
In all the time you've spent trying to bash my (and others') posts you'd have found these CCP posts you keep telling us about.
If you won't look for them and link to them just because "there's no search function on the forum", then do you really think you're in any position to tell me I don't do any research ? 
Ahh, the troll is back. I specified IN GAME research. Read more?
And no, there is NO adequate way to search these forums for phrases. Google does not allow sorting and subsearching to find results.
Digital Communist> The Jin-Mei are probably more profficient in training for Tofu and Noodles than Spaceship Command |
Helen Tiger
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Posted - 2006.02.15 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: Helen Tiger
In all the time you've spent trying to bash my (and others') posts you'd have found these CCP posts you keep telling us about.
If you won't look for them and link to them just because "there's no search function on the forum", then do you really think you're in any position to tell me I don't do any research ?
Ahh, the troll is back. I specified IN GAME research. Read more?
And no, there is NO adequate way to search these forums for phrases. Google does not allow sorting and subsearching to find results.
All I see from you is yet more poor excuses and insults. So you can't be bothered to search for a thread by hand ? And you suggest you're the only one here doing in-game research after the example me and other players like Grey have given here ?
I suggest you look-up the definition of forum troll before you use that word. Who knows, maybe the wiki on this subject as your picture on it.
If you CAN show me a post from CCP that is in direct contradiction of anything I "claim" to be my experience, then you may be entitled to flaming me... otherwise I think you should just crawl back to where you came from and stop telling people that you have "done research" and will "lecture them".
TuRtLe HeAd : As Grey I also think you're over-complicating : all roids in the game can be targetted AND have variable size depending on how long it's been since the last time they were popped. I don't see missiles being such a huge load on the server compared to that.
Keep in mind the server is already doing the calculations that allow a missile to track after its target (like Grey eminently described). So for all intents and purpose missiles are already treated as ships. You'll note they all have a weight and speed dependent on their size, with the smaller missiles more capable of tracking a fast ship accurately.
So I don't think making the missiles targettable would be a huge burden for the server. But I also think it'd be too bothersome : A Raven can shoot at you one missile every 1.2 second... if you have to target them all, just WHEN are you gonna get around actually killing that Raven ?
That is why any anti-missile device has to be automated.
Helen
Originally by: Kittamaru
Bravo Helen! (...)
Never seen someone do their research before disproving another's point!
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Helen Tiger
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Posted - 2006.02.15 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Helen Tiger on 15/02/2006 16:26:56
edit : SNAFU while posting - removing double post
Originally by: Kittamaru
Bravo Helen! (...)
Never seen someone do their research before disproving another's point!
ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=287902&page=1#12 |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.02.15 19:48:00 -
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No, I am not going to search through dozens of pages for a thread by hand, especially since many have been bumped since I last remember them.
As and when you deliver the search you keep yelling about, I'll use it. Thanks.
And no, roids have a static value for size which is periodically updated. That's very different.
The server is NOT tracking missiles to the target, as has been clearly demonstrated oth by the devs (who could not limit tracking because a tracking system for missiles lagged too much) and by the evidence I have posted in this thread from research.
And sure, this automated device will have to shoot down a proportion, so the rest need to be higher damage of course (since they are currently balanced without an effective counter). Shame about ships without the slots and fitting to mount antimissile counters, eh. (so it's bad for balance even IF it was possible, as has bene pointed out by multiple people).
Digital Communist> The Jin-Mei are probably more profficient in training for Tofu and Noodles than Spaceship Command |
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