I claim full and sole responsibility for bringing about this change.

Vote Chiimera: CSM 2014, Nullsec, AUTZ, EVE-Esport
When I say I support nullsec, I support all of nullsec including wormholes.

If you would like we can stop making suggestions and your little quiet part of space can go back to being stagnant and boring?.

How is this even a goons thing? The plans to fix SMA dropping loot were in place the day they broke it. And given the date of that goon post, it is far to late for them to suddenly implemented any of those ideas (ships in an SMA showing on killmails) for them to even take credit for it.

And how is this even a content generator for WH space? it may be a content generator for anyone who wants to siege a POS, which happens to hold true in WH space, but that isn't the same as generating WH specific content.

Nevermind giving credit to the devs that actually coded it because they are secondary to the whole project.


7/10

This issue has been for looong on the radar of CSM...

Wormholes are notorious for having little done with them for years. Then in the span of one well-thought out thread, the Goons air a suggestion and have it considered and implemented by the devs. It is extremely sad to me, as a wormholer, that Nullbear knuckleheads & trolls have done so much more for wormholes in this coming patch than us Elite PvP Holelivers.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=284723

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=292294

So...like...we just gonna ignore every wormholer that has talked about this for over a year and just give credit to a goon? Yeah that makes sense :/

Wormholes are notorious for having little done with them for years. Then in the span of one well-thought out thread, the Goons air a suggestion and have it considered and implemented by the devs. It is extremely sad to me, as a wormholer, that Nullbear knuckleheads & trolls have done so much more for wormholes in this coming patch than us Elite PvP Holelivers.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=284723

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=292294

Aren't you the same guy who batphoned goons awhile ago go to do some elite which PvP?

HELL no. They invaded my wormhole and stole my kill, and told me my ugly-ass Proteus "wasn't even worth shooting" . They then scrammed me and bumped me with their ships for 30 minutes while I yelled "stop it!" in local.

Credit where credit is due. It was an important change that was implemented to much rejoicing. Not supporting a good idea because it came from a source you don't like just keeps good things from happening for everyone.

Goons, I don't say this often, but you did good this time.

How dare the ebil goonies add content to a part of the game that you state has had "little done with them for years". If you would like we can stop making suggestions and your little quiet part of space can go back to being stagnant and boring?

edit : alternatively try suggesting something clever and not difficult to do like we did and you might get it implemented.

Yeah, no.

http://themittani.com/features/how-its-made-csm-and-sma-fix

Maybe if you post more and submit and EN24 article people will believe you.

You shouldn't be looking for a pat on the head you should be thanking the community for putting pressure on CCP to make this change happen. As others did, I made a thread, but not only did I make a thread I spent weeks promoting the issue on twitter, in game, over jabber and even on the EVE Down Under show.

So how about you pull your head out of your ass and remember that you are only relevant because of the community you represent.

Thanks Chiimera for your effort and selflessness. Our wormhole community is so much better for it.

Maybe if you post more and submit and EN24 article people will believe you.

You shouldn't be looking for a pat on the head you should be thanking the community for putting pressure on CCP to make this change happen. As others did, I made a thread, but not only did I make a thread I spent weeks promoting the issue on twitter, in game, over jabber and even on the EVE Down Under show.

So how about you pull your head out of your ass and remember that you are only relevant because of the community you represent.

Run away and stop being jealous our CSM reps actually are doing some work and your's can't get **** done.

Run away and stop being jealous our CSM reps actually are doing some work and your's can't get **** done.

What do you mean by "your's? I don't mean the grammatical issues with the statement, I though all of us wormhole folk stuck together and worked on fixing wormhole space for everyone?

To be honest I'm surprised goons can find their way through a wormhole chain without a bridge network, wasn't aware the swarm mentality had evolved that far yet

I won't lie and say its easy but using our experience from owning half of nullsec and running a vast logistics network we have been able to piece together (thanks to eve university) a pretty good idea of how wormholes work and are really excited to be an active contributor to the wormhole space community.

All of us wormholers have to stick together and work for the things we want. I am just doing what I can for our amazing wormhole community.

HELL no. They invaded my wormhole and stole my kill, and told me my ugly-ass Proteus "wasn't even worth shooting" . They then scrammed me and bumped me with their ships for 30 minutes while I yelled "stop it!" in local.

I won't lie and say its easy but using our experience from owning half of nullsec and running a vast logistics network we have been able to piece together (thanks to eve university) a pretty good idea of how wormholes work and are really excited to be an active contributor to the wormhole space community.

As others did, I made a thread,

...about a month and a half too late to make a difference, since the proposed changes in your thread had already be slated to be implemented by the CSM summer summit in August.

Now if only I could find the minutes... I spent half an hour trying to find them :(

Damn it people, now I'm going to have to come make a serious post because everyone is bitching again.

The community got this changed pushed through; that's who deserves the credit. This has been an outstanding issue, and it was because I had multiple forum posts, evemails, and other outside media to link to that the CSM was able to push this issue to the attention of CCP. I didn't tell CCP Seagull that my corp wasn't able to have fun anymore, I told her that there was broad and overwhelming support for this functionality to be reinstated because it was a great loss, foremost for the wormhole community.

My nice little "yeah, no" was mostly in reference to "Goons revolutionize WH PvP" because that simply is not true. Goons contributed to the base of support on which the CSM was able to request this change. So, in the end, no one person or group gets credit, but we all get participation awards.

On to the next one.

^Basically this. Goons may have provided the bulk of the support behind this change and the final impetus towards it's implementation, but it is important to remember that this may not have happened without the continuous low-level whitenoise droning & complaining of the community at large.

It is extremely sad to me, as a wormholer, that Nullbear knuckleheads & trolls have done so much more for wormholes in this coming patch than us Elite PvP Holelivers.

^Basically this. Goons may have provided the bulk of the support behind this change and the final impetus towards it's implementation, but it is important to remember that this may not have happened without the continuous low-level whitenoise droning & complaining of the community at large.

3. Thomas has managed to **** off the majority of the WH community and will probably be the 1st to see the patch in full effect

*pokes head in doorway*

I heard they were giving away free popcorn over here. Is this the right place?

My nice little "yeah, no" was mostly in reference to "Goons revolutionize WH PvP" because that simply is not true. Goons contributed to the base of support on which the CSM was able to request this change. So, in the end, no one person or group gets credit, but we all get participation awards.

On to the next one.

Everywhere we go, we push for innovation. It is just part of how we do things. You should be glad you have goons in wormholes pushing for progress in the community. We have the biggest voice wherever we go. We have finally brought effective progress to the wormhole community. Be happy.

QT post something to distract everyone!

So for how long will we feed these trolls? QT post something to distract everyone!

Ohh and as far as the goon if you campaigning already you are trying to reach the wrong crowd here wormholers will vote for wormholers... Try some other forum you will have better luck there

I thought I was a wormholer. Is there some kind of test or application I have to do so I can call myself a wormholer?

I'm lookin' real hard for proof you actually live in a wormhole, and I'll I'm seeing is you attacking a POS with none other than Yan Jung Clique. So tell me, what does living in a wormhole mean to you? Because to me, it means actually being a person living in a wormhole, engaging other wormholers in pvp action, talking to people that live in wormholers, and not just showing up going HEY GUYS I'M A WORMHOLER TOO BECAUSE I SAY I AM GREAT WORK OUT THERE BUT WE GOT THIS DONE NOT YOU!!11! <3

In other news, this thread is now about Bob. Praise His mighty ways.

If I take, my 5 accounts with 3 pilots on each of them, there is a slight possibility that I have a number of pilots that I live in wormholes with.

I in fact spend a lot more time in wormholes than I do out of wormholes.

I don't need our wormhole community to vote for me or support me in anything I do. I am here because I want our community to be the best it can be and it's kind of offensive to continually talk down someone when the only thing they have ever tried to do is help you.

You see the problem is that you came in with the attitude of look at me, look at our goon greatness, look at what the goons have now done, the goons have fixed WH space.

If you stopped with your bizarre propaganda crap for a mear second you would come to realize that this isn't some great idea you thought up all by your wee little goon self. These are bugs/issues that have been know to WH space for a very long time, we have gone to great lengths to come together to get our collective votes behind WH CSM so our smaller number of votes matter, we have had countless threads on these issues, threads that turn into massive threadnaughts of ideas.

So stick around a little and get to know the WH community before you swoop in and take all the glory for your next meta gaming.

Blah blah blah.

I didn't come in here with a look at me attitude, someone came in here with a look at Chiimera attitude. So I then adopted the attitude that i'm kinda fabulous.

I didn't come in here with a look at me attitude

I claim full and sole responsibility for bringing about this change.

Vote Chiimera: CSM 2014, Nullsec, AUTZ, EVE-Esport
When I say I support nullsec, I support all of nullsec including wormholes.

I support all of nullsec including wormholes.

All out of popcorn.

But we have Cheetos and Mt. Dew.

I'll take it.

Is HK dude going to pull up a stool and join us for drinks or just stand there and watch the kiddies fight awkwardly?

If I take, my 5 accounts with 3 pilots on each of them, there is a slight possibility that I have a number of pilots that I live in wormholes with.

I in fact spend a lot more time in wormholes than I do out of wormholes.

I don't need our wormhole community to vote for me or support me in anything I do. I am here because I want our community to be the best it can be and it's kind of offensive to continually talk down someone when the only thing they have ever tried to do is help you.

Hmmm Goons in WH space? Where? I haven't seen any out here... Seems they are more talk than fire. But don't worry carebearz, If I do see any Goons I will kill them for you.

Hmmm Goons in WH space? Where? I haven't seen any out here... Seems they are more talk than fire. But don't worry carebearz, If I do see any Goons I will kill them for you.

Hmmm Goons in WH space? Where? I haven't seen any out here... Seems they are more talk than fire. But don't worry carebearz, If I do see any Goons I will kill them for you.

I'll have a scotch, two fingers, neat.

Thanks barkeep.

Corp: Vasilkovsky Interstellar [VINTR]
Alliance: Goonswarm Federation
*May* currently reside in: J164417 (C2 with C3/HS static)

Ooooh big man. Why don't you come do something about it? Don't let the hole hit you on your way out.

People have been evicted for less...

I'll have a scotch, two fingers, neat.

Thanks barkeep.

I'll have a scotch, two fingers, neat.

Thanks barkeep.

Speaking of drinks dude...

Been too long.

Ooooh big man. Why don't you come do something about it? Don't let the hole hit you on your way out.

I wouldn't go begging KILL to do something about it if I were you. You will get far more than you bargained for.

I already met KILL

As Lord Commander of VINTR and de jure Sovereign of Wormhole Space, by the power invested in me by Mittani himself I order you all to leave wormhole space post-haste.

It is now a CFC region.

You have been warned.

As Lord Commander of VINTR and de jure Sovereign of Wormhole Space, by the power invested in me by Mittani himself I order you all to leave wormhole space post-haste.

It is now a CFC region.

You have been warned.

Hey, Mittens, who is this Parris scrub?

Never heard of him.

Also don't worry we will be renting select w-space systems out for the low low cost of a PLEX per month.

Didn't I already kill one of your towers? If I recall correctly, it didn't even have strontium.

As Lord Commander of VINTR and de jure Sovereign of Wormhole Space, by the power invested in me by Mittani himself I order you all to leave wormhole space post-haste.

It is now a CFC region.

You have been warned.

What percentage of the population lives in wormholes again?

Edit: Grr goons.

Didn't I already kill one of your towers? If I recall correctly, it didn't even have strontium.

Hmmm Goons in WH space? Where? I haven't seen any out here... Seems they are more talk than fire. But don't worry carebearz, If I do see any Goons I will kill them for you.

I do hope recent events (Your hole burning to the ground and your CEO selling out your whole corp) doesn't turn you off WH space, we truly need more of you goons to keep revolutionizing WH space for us and with the great modesty i now give you in return.

I do hope recent events (Your hole burning to the ground and your CEO selling out your whole corp) doesn't turn you off WH space, we truly need more of you goons to keep revolutionizing WH space for us and with the great modesty i now give you in return.

I left WH space and 3 weeks later you guys evicted a bunch of easygoing dudes who wanted to pvp in wormholes and who don't even know what a "Goon" is. smdh