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Arron S
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Posted - 2006.02.10 08:57:00 -
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I'm Building a new computer soon, and I am wonder what video card would be best for running EVE on, aswell of other high Graphics Games?
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Xerxes X
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Posted - 2006.02.10 09:12:00 -
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Bear in mind that while the video card makes some difference, with Eve it is the CPU and memory that makes a bigger difference.
i.e. invest the majority of your PC budget on the CPU, memory and motherboard.
Xerxes X
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Cypherous
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Posted - 2006.02.10 09:24:00 -
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Used to run EVE on a 1600mz on a geforce2 but it ran crappy.
O RLY?! --Jorauk
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Eternal Fury
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Posted - 2006.02.11 00:23:00 -
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Actually heres a question.
Most MMO's I've found favour either ATI or nVidia when it comes to video cards. most seem to be nvidia. what's teh case with eve.
I'm new BTW. :)
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.11 00:25:00 -
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EVE will run fine on any video card. The processor is far more of a bottleneck.
Other games, its more of an issue.
I'd recommend the 6600GT, 6800GT, and 7800GT in that order. Higher price = better of course.
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Kael D'mende
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Posted - 2006.02.11 00:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Arron S
I'm Building a new computer soon, and I am wonder what video card would be best for running EVE on, aswell of other high Graphics Games?
eve is more cpu dependent that vid card tbh, but i would go with a Gforce 7800 (gt/gtx) then it will be good for other games aswell ;O)
for the total experiance, get a dual core cpu, so the background stuff dont cramp your style when playning :O)
personaly im about to upgrade aswell, when the office room is done. And this is what i will get..
new rig:
opteron 165
7800 GT
raptor or scsi hdd..
hope that helped :O/
/Kael
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Onasi Starr
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Posted - 2006.02.11 00:49:00 -
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6600GT is the way to go 
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.02.11 00:58:00 -
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Wow....The only ATI fanboy in the thread
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Al Thorr
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Posted - 2006.02.11 00:59:00 -
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Err - Dual core Cpus (do not as of this point in time imho )affect performance of eve
The client is still a 32 bit process.
If you are building a machine from Mobo Up then at least go the SLI route. * Ignore the ATI option as its too little too late imho and will lead to greater heart ache in the future.
minimum spec would be the 6600 GT Twin option. then wait for the 7800 s to lessen in price my a considerable margin .
BTW you should have posted this in the correct forum.....
Regards Al Thorr
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.11 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Al Thorr
Err - Dual core Cpus (do not as of this point in time imho )affect performance of eve
Originally by: Al Thorr
The client is still a 32 bit process.
These two statements are completely unrelated.
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.02.11 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Al Thorr
Err - Dual core Cpus (do not as of this point in time imho )affect performance of eve
Originally by: Al Thorr
The client is still a 32 bit process.
These two statements are completely unrelated.
64bit > 32bit 
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Al Thorr
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Posted - 2006.02.11 01:13:00 -
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ok fair enough - but let me clarify - Eve is not a 64 bit hyperthreaded client.
it doesnt utilise afaik any form of hyper threading technology.
Thus it is a standard 32 application that cannot use any part of Dual core processors.
Does this help - If Im wrong then I appologise btw :)
Regards Al Thorr
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Minodus
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Posted - 2006.02.11 01:33:00 -
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2x Geforce 7800 512mb in SLI mode
failing that, just one of them :)
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.11 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Al Thorr
ok fair enough - but let me clarify - Eve is not a 64 bit hyperthreaded client.
it doesnt utilise afaik any form of hyper threading technology.
Thus it is a standard 32 application that cannot use any part of Dual core processors.
Does this help - If Im wrong then I appologise btw :)
You're now confusing THREE seperate concepts!
64-bit = accepts 64-bit registers and variables as taking a single address space. This can result in a performance boost due to 64-bit arithmetic taking just one clock cycle. It has nothing to do with dual cores.
Dual core = can run two threads at once on seperate cores. An application needs to be multithreaded to take advantage of a dual core processor.
Hyperthreading = Intel's cheesy, hacky way of making a single core support two threads. Its not very effective.
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Idara
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Posted - 2006.02.11 02:20:00 -
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My ATi X850XT is quite nice. Got it for about $250 bucks too.
1680x1050 with 4x AA if I want...oooohh...purdy...
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.02.11 02:38:00 -
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isn't it fun when people know enough to get themselves in trouble, but don't really know where the border of their ignorance/knowlege is?
as dark shikari said... a good bit of confusion on whats what and whats relevant or not.
the essence of it is that a dual core 32 bit processor would run a single instance of EVE(with nothing else in the background) would run it essentially identically as a single core of the same power. (dual core 2Ghz is not the same as a single core 4ghz, for example)
and the game does not at this time benefit from the extra potential that a 64 bit processor gives, because it doesn't utilize those aspects.
hyperthreading is just that... intels goofy little hack job that doesn't even work properly.
personally I'm a nVidia and AMD fanboi...
a question I do have though, if anyone has tried it while on a similar topic... is WindowsXP64. now I know, as has been stated EVE doesn't actually utilize the 64 bit, but has anyone compared preformance for EVE between regular and 64 bit windows's?
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.02.11 03:20:00 -
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Screw sli and crossfire. They're only gimics.
Single x1900xt ftw.
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Turia
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Posted - 2006.02.11 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek
a question I do have though, if anyone has tried it while on a similar topic... is WindowsXP64. now I know, as has been stated EVE doesn't actually utilize the 64 bit, but has anyone compared preformance for EVE between regular and 64 bit windows's?
EVE itself, no difference as far as I can tell. The bonus is in the fact that XP x64 (Pedantic mode - XP 64 (sans x) was terminated, as Intel couldn't hack it in the 64 bit world.) doesn't suck in terms of performance. It runs smoother than any previous version of Windows I've seen.
However, it blows in terms of end user usability. If you have old printers, scanners, digital cameras, et cetera, good luck with those - you likely won't find drivers for them. 
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.02.11 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Turia
Originally by: Kel Shek
a question I do have though, if anyone has tried it while on a similar topic... is WindowsXP64. now I know, as has been stated EVE doesn't actually utilize the 64 bit, but has anyone compared preformance for EVE between regular and 64 bit windows's?
EVE itself, no difference as far as I can tell. The bonus is in the fact that XP x64 (Pedantic mode - XP 64 (sans x) was terminated, as Intel couldn't hack it in the 64 bit world.) doesn't suck in terms of performance. It runs smoother than any previous version of Windows I've seen.
However, it blows in terms of end user usability. If you have old printers, scanners, digital cameras, et cetera, good luck with those - you likely won't find drivers for them.
wasn't entirely sure on the name, so  I do NOT have any old things like that, that'll be hooked up to this computer, closest thing to that might be a USB webcam. (:shifty: what? yeah... a webcam... so?) but thats not even a real old one.
sounds like it might be worth dual booting between both...
/me eyes the XP Pro x64 Trial
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/evaluation/trial.mspx
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F'nog
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Posted - 2006.02.11 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek
Originally by: Turia
Originally by: Kel Shek
a question I do have though, if anyone has tried it while on a similar topic... is WindowsXP64. now I know, as has been stated EVE doesn't actually utilize the 64 bit, but has anyone compared preformance for EVE between regular and 64 bit windows's?
EVE itself, no difference as far as I can tell. The bonus is in the fact that XP x64 (Pedantic mode - XP 64 (sans x) was terminated, as Intel couldn't hack it in the 64 bit world.) doesn't suck in terms of performance. It runs smoother than any previous version of Windows I've seen.
However, it blows in terms of end user usability. If you have old printers, scanners, digital cameras, et cetera, good luck with those - you likely won't find drivers for them.
wasn't entirely sure on the name, so I do NOT have any old things like that, that'll be hooked up to this computer, closest thing to that might be a USB webcam. (:shifty: what? yeah... a webcam... so?) but thats not even a real old one.
sounds like it might be worth dual booting between both...
/me eyes the XP Pro x64 Trial
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/evaluation/trial.mspx
I just got the 64bit trial and it's quite nice. It doesn't help with Eve at all, but many things do load more quickly. The only problem I've had so far is that UT2004 64bit doesn't work as well as the 32bit version, oddly enough. Now if I can just find all the drivers I need and the $170-odd to buy the full version I'll be happy.
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Iavia
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Posted - 2006.02.11 09:41:00 -
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Strangly (or not) I've found that the 9800 Pro owns the 6600 GT for Eve.. might have been a fluke. The 6600 GT totaly killed my Nvida Fangrrlizm in other ways though.
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Kaythalana
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Posted - 2006.02.11 11:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kaythalana on 11/02/2006 11:02:07
I play Eve on 3 different systems, equipped with:
2x 6600GT in SLI mode
Ati radeon X700XT PCIE
Ati radeon 9600.
It runs quite good on the 9600 (25 fps), but i think it has very good performance on the x700xt too, about 60 fps. It doesn't seem to take good advantage of the SLI configuration, even if it uses both video boards (about 80 fps).
If you wanna buy a nex video board you may choose an ati radeon x800GTO2, you may mod it to x850xt only changing drivers, and it is quite cheap.
BTW SLI configuration is far from being perfect atm, a a good ati radeon x800xt is better than 2x 6600GT SLI mode, i made a lot of benchmark and tests on games, and it is cheaper.
EDIT: i tried it on a quadro FX 1400, about 100 fps, and i play in 1280x1024 AA4x AF16x
Cya
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Max Hardcase
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Posted - 2006.02.11 11:09:00 -
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Whats your budget ?
Now assuming yer going with PCI-E for the gfx card bus ( you'd be stupid not to ).
200$ gfx card : 6800 GS ( 6800 GT's are in short supply and perform only slightly better, not enough for the added cost )
300$ gfx card : 7800 GT
Higher than that prolly one of the new Ati X1900 cards.
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