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Pluppo
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Posted - 2006.02.10 22:45:00 -
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Hi, I'm having great fun in my Enyo when doing missions, but I tried a bit of dueling with a corpmate, and I realised that my T2 small armor repairer uses too much cap. I keep getting drained out before I can win the duel.
Do any of you have a setup for the Enyo where everything including the armor repper can run forever? With all guns, AB, webber, etc... active?
I someone is able to do this, please post what your cap related skills are, as well as your setup.
Thanks
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Guardian Alpha
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Posted - 2006.02.10 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: Guardian Alpha on 10/02/2006 22:53:46
Since you are looking to refocus the enyo's role from damage into sustained tanking, consider swapping out the missile hard-point for a small nos and adding a capacitor power relay to one of your lows, especially if it an energized plate. The ability to tank sustainedly is going to be more important, for you at least, than slightly more damage or slightly more resistance.
With those two small sacrifices I've been able to run a sustained tank and solo 4/10 serpentis complexes in the enyo, even against the final Battleship NPC.
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.02.10 22:52:00 -
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In my experiences, the enyo has pretty severe cap problems. It is unable to maintain a decent tank, and cannot maintain anything with guns running...
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.02.10 23:05:00 -
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yes its more then possible
1 cpr and it runs for ever iirc
although AF are ****. id use a cruiser over one anyday
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Guardian Alpha
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Posted - 2006.02.10 23:09:00 -
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although AF are ****. id use a cruiser over one anyday
You would take a cruiser and fly it against a ship-class specifically meant to eliminate cruisers? How does that even work?
I've seen AFs, especially ishkurs and enyos, level the playing field with their tanking/firepower capability against larger ships.
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El Yatta
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Posted - 2006.02.10 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Guardian Alpha
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although AF are ****. id use a cruiser over one anyday
You would take a cruiser and fly it against a ship-class specifically meant to eliminate cruisers? How does that even work?
I've seen AFs, especially ishkurs and enyos, level the playing field with their tanking/firepower capability against larger ships.
AFs are designed antifrigate, not anti-cruiser. Any PROPERLY fitted tier 2/3 combat cruiser will wipe the floor with any AF, providing it has a WEB. I use my ishkur to clean up with cruisers too, of course, because most cruisers are badly fitted or for long range. Stabber, Thorax, Vexor, Rupture should easily kill an AF.
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Kryptic1
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Posted - 2006.02.10 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
In my experiences, the enyo has pretty severe cap problems. It is unable to maintain a decent tank, and cannot maintain anything with guns running...
Uhh, Enyo has the same cap as Harpy, and has better cap than all the other AF except the amarr AFs (whos guns take lots of cap)
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.02.10 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Guardian Alpha
You would take a cruiser and fly it against a ship-class specifically meant to eliminate cruisers? How does that even work?
Quite well actually.
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Blind Fear
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Posted - 2006.02.10 23:44:00 -
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Any cruiser that I fly could easily take on 3-5 AFs at the same time with little trouble.
More then that and I'd probably get overwhelmed and only get 2 or 3 of the AFs.
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Guardian Alpha
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Posted - 2006.02.10 23:51:00 -
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Why haven't I ever had that problem, even in 0.0 PvP?
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.02.11 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Guardian Alpha
Why haven't I ever had that problem, even in 0.0 PvP?
a ship specificly designed to kill crusiers will also kill AF pretty well
why dont u have problems in AFs? probably because u fight morons.
and as the guy a few posts up said a crusier can pop 4-5 AF easy.
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Guardian Alpha
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Posted - 2006.02.11 00:06:00 -
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Fraps it, then I'll belive that a cruiser can fend off 4-5 AFs.
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sgt spike
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Posted - 2006.02.11 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Guardian Alpha
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although AF are ****. id use a cruiser over one anyday
You would take a cruiser and fly it against a ship-class specifically meant to eliminate cruisers? How does that even work?
I've seen AFs, especially ishkurs and enyos, level the playing field with their tanking/firepower capability against larger ships.
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Lily Savage
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Posted - 2006.02.11 00:15:00 -
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Back onto the topic...
Yes, an Enyo can run armour rep full time, if you work on your cap skills. Also, don't forget the skills that indirectly affect cap use, like afterburner, fuel conservation and controlled bursts. Gistii AB helps, but isn't necessary. There are cheap implants that affect cap use as well, which can help.
I run my ratting/mission Enyo with:
hi: 4 x T2 125mm rails with AM, T2 standard launcher
mid: Gistii AB, cap rec II
low: T2 small repper, energised adaptive nano II, cap relay, mag stab II
Further than that, I'm not sure that I actually need both the cap recharger and cap relay - I just haven't needed to mess with the fitting.
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Viper9
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Posted - 2006.02.11 01:20:00 -
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I find the enyo isn't the best for pvp in my experiance with it, i usualy go with a ishkur, and set it up for anti-frig, pretty much 1 on 1 it can drop pretty much any other frig about 95% of the time. While it can kill crusiers, thats not what i find they are specialized for.
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OrangeAfroMan
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Posted - 2006.02.11 01:25:00 -
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Yes, show me fraps. Then i would believe you.
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Pluppo
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Posted - 2006.02.11 15:31:00 -
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Thanks for all the input guys! Here's what I've come up with:
x4 125mm Railgun II
Arbalest Standard Launcher
Gistii A-type small AB
Cap Charger II
2x Cap Power Relay
Energized Reactive Plating
Small Armor Repair II
My current cap relevant skills are:
Energy grid upgrades 4
Energy management 3 (currently training it to 4  )
Energy systems operation 4
Controlled bursts 3
Fuel conservation 2
With this setup I can get everything to run for ever and ever and ever and ever. What do you think of it as a pvp setup? Is there a better way?
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.02.11 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Pluppo
Thanks for all the input guys! Here's what I've come up with:
x4 125mm Railgun II
Arbalest Standard Launcher
Gistii A-type small AB
Cap Charger II
2x Cap Power Relay
Energized Reactive Plating
Small Armor Repair II
My current cap relevant skills are:
Energy grid upgrades 4
Energy management 3 (currently training it to 4 )
Energy systems operation 4
Controlled bursts 3
Fuel conservation 2
With this setup I can get everything to run for ever and ever and ever and ever. What do you think of it as a pvp setup? Is there a better way?
faction loot on pvp setup ftl
cap rechargers on pvp setup ftl [unless u are cpu or pg tight]
no webber on an af FTL
personally id get rid of taht std launcher, loose the ab. fit a webber. and maybe a 20km. 1 dmg mod, 1 rep. the rest what ever u feel like.
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Har Ganeth
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Posted - 2006.02.11 16:38:00 -
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Use null instead of antimatter to avoid cap problems.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.02.11 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Har Ganeth
Use null instead of antimatter to avoid cap problems.
Null has same cap usage as antimatter.
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Gronsak
and as the guy a few posts up said a crusier can pop 4-5 AF easy.
wtf?
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Turix
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Posted - 2006.02.11 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Gronsak
and as the guy a few posts up said a crusier can pop 4-5 AF easy.
wtf?
Iv killed 3 and a Rupture before O.o
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JohnMcKnight
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Posted - 2006.02.11 18:14:00 -
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"Fraps it, then I'll belive that a cruiser can fend off 4-5 AFs."
I would love to see that.
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Bazman
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Posted - 2006.02.11 18:14:00 -
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I killed a pre-rmr Rax with a BlasterEnyo (And the guy is no nub either)
Some cruisers are capable of taking on multiple AF's. But 3 AF's against a single thorax/maller/ruppie, assuming all pilots are proficent with thier ships, the AF's will kill the cruiser
Back on topic, Cap Power Relays are your friends, 1 should run a tank for a very long time with 4/4 cap skills, if you have 2 Cap Relays, you can run it forever, just don't expect to really kill anything though.
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.02.11 20:13:00 -
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for the .4 serpentis complex my setup is
1 150mm
3 125mm rails of course
1 missile launcher
1 AB II
1 x5 web
2 cap relay
1 shadow thermal hardener
1 shadow repairer
and o yes i can run my armor repairer forever and them some with every mod on and antimatter ammo
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.02.11 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
In my experiences, the enyo has pretty severe cap problems. It is unable to maintain a decent tank, and cannot maintain anything with guns running...
sry chap you some experiences with a bad setup or bad skill
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.02.11 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Gronsak
and as the guy a few posts up said a crusier can pop 4-5 AF easy.
wtf?
1 AF lol before shields down
2 AF before armor down
3 AF before armor down
4 AF is begining to push it
5 AF possible but unlikey
personally ive taken out an enyo + retribution while also being shot at by an eagle.
also took out a lone harpy today which just about took me into armor before he poped and he was 18months old so pretty high SP but the funney bit is that i have 4x as much armor as shields and the armor is hardened so he wasnt even close.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.02.11 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
In my experiences, the enyo has pretty severe cap problems. It is unable to maintain a decent tank, and cannot maintain anything with guns running...
low: 2x energized plating II, small amor rep II, cap power relay ?
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.02.11 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gronsak
Originally by: Guardian Alpha
Why haven't I ever had that problem, even in 0.0 PvP?
a ship specificly designed to kill crusiers will also kill AF pretty well
why dont u have problems in AFs? probably because u fight morons.
and as the guy a few posts up said a crusier can pop 4-5 AF easy.
cruiser > af imao
but cruiser cant kill 4 or 5 af e will be toasted wery fast
(exept af pilots will be dumbass)
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.02.12 00:30:00 -
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meh you should see thorax with lasers and berserkers... it was like poetry... AFs were dying just like in row...
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