The PvE in this game is Not Fun. For most (normal) people, it is straight up chore to do any sort of ratting or missioning, and the only thing that makes it tolerable is bullshitting on voicechat with other people that are doing it with you. I humbly request that CCP do something to make the PvE in E.v.E. entertaining/engrossing/interesting and at least vaguely tolerable.

The PvE in this game is Not Fun. For most (normal) people, it is straight up chore to do any sort of ratting or missioning, and the only thing that makes it tolerable is bullshitting on voicechat with other people that are doing it with you. I humbly request that CCP do something to make the PvE in E.v.E. entertaining/engrossing/interesting and at least vaguely tolerable.

I've not played a single mmo where the PvE was fun.

The PvE in this game is Not Fun. For most (normal) people, it is straight up chore to do any sort of ratting or missioning, and the only thing that makes it tolerable is bullshitting on voicechat with other people that are doing it with you. I humbly request that CCP do something to make the PvE in E.v.E. entertaining/engrossing/interesting and at least vaguely tolerable.

Fighting NPCs was never that fun to me. But soloing an epic mission arc such as Wildfire is a challenge, in a T1 BS at least. You have to play it kind of like a chess game to win. I could see why my old corp mates were so into soloing higher level missions-- it takes thinking in your ship fits and some tactical planning in your execution.

Wildfire was indeed an interesting challenge. But I gave up on the Amarr Epic Arc on the last mission, which would have involved facing around 20 waves of ships.

That kind of non-challenging grind is just not worth doing. At all.

Incursions and sleeper sites can be fun due to the increased risk/reward, similar thing with high level complexes. Though I agree doing L4s in highsec day in and day out must be mind numbing, it's a wonder why/how so many do

Incursions and sleeper sites can be fun due to the increased risk/reward, similar thing with high level complexes. Though I agree doing L4s in highsec day in and day out must be mind numbing, it's a wonder why/how so many do it.

EVE was never build to be a PVE game, it's an after thought. If you want a theme park ride then there are other games to consider.

GL.

I think the problem with PVE is that it isn't everywhere, in a traditional mmorpg, you run into PVE walking outside town, PVE is plentiful, in EvE you undock from station and nothing is waiting to kill you other than players or police.

Well the best pve in eve is in low/null/w-space where you actually have to check d scan. lv4's are mind numbing. As much as I like e-uni, I wish I had joined up with a group that didn't encourage new players to do missions when I first joined. The biggest myth in this game is that you need money to pvp.