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Tor Saani
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.11.07 21:38:00 -
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I was watching the stream from work as I sadly couldn't participate but did CCP seriously just round up everyone in empire and lead them directly into the CFCs staging systems with no warning or support?
Honestly though anyone who pays attention to what is going on in Eve should have seen that it was a CCP/Dev AWOX once you started moving. That area has literally thousands of CFC pilots staging for the war effort. Any idiot should have known there was no way you were getting through that pipe. |
cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
299
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Posted - 2013.11.07 21:43:00 -
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Tor Saani wrote:I was watching the stream from work as I sadly couldn't participate but did CCP seriously just round up everyone in empire and lead them directly into the CFCs staging systems with no warning or support?
Honestly though anyone who pays attention to what is going on in Eve should have seen that it was a CCP/Dev AWOX once you started moving. That area has literally thousands of CFC pilots staging for the war effort. Any idiot should have known there was no way you were getting through that pipe.
Highsec Incursions + competent fleets running 24/7 = live event gank. |
Phoenix Jones
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
228
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Posted - 2013.11.07 21:46:00 -
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Yea. CCP just shot themselves in the foot... well really in the @ss....
I actually feel bad for some of the people that blindly followed CCP's directions and got obliterated... And to think there was suppose to be sometype of.. story to this?
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Elfi Wolfe
University of Caille Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.11.07 21:48:00 -
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Maybe the event was to show the Empires dieing to the null sec alliances. What next? Goons taking over Gallente empire?
Made it to system but 2/3 of fleet die on the way. Made it back to empire in pod after running 5 gate camps. |
Jamison
Southern Gothic
11
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Posted - 2013.11.07 21:49:00 -
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they felt bad for the rollback the other nght and decided to pad some killboards |
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
348
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Posted - 2013.11.07 21:50:00 -
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My main greivance was the fact that for most of the ppl who were in one of the "staging" systems an hour or two BEFORE the event....were not even able to get to the event before it was over.
I only managed to get 4 jumps away from the second 'staging' before i called it quits after nearly three hours of TiDi'd warp/jumps.
Pretty much wasted my day...to play the slow-mo version of 'Warp Online'. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2577
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Posted - 2013.11.07 21:51:00 -
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Elfi Wolfe wrote:Maybe the event was to show the Empires dieing to the null sec alliances. What next? Goons taking over Gallente empire? Jacus Roden is a GIA agent.
Don't tell anyone. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe RAZOR Alliance
25
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:21:00 -
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Did you expect candies in Doril? |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:22:00 -
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Giullare wrote:Did you expect candies in Doril?
We expected death, don't think that we are sad about dying ... however we expected CCP to be there making it a Live Event. |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
1163
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:39:00 -
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FC said "jump [into 0.0 system]", I turned my ship 180 degrees and jumped back to high-sec instead. I was 100% sure it was a trap. 200+ ships in the fleet popped needlessly - along with ~800 more ships in other fleets.
Now I feel myself like an oracle (+ some guilt for leaving fleet instead of trying to stop them). However it's pretty simple to predict outcome of CCP's actions: you just have to assume they'll fail in the hardest way possible. |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3564
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:49:00 -
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Maybe the Ghost Site mechanic broke, and rather than have everybody saying "fail site - broken" the fleet was diverted into a slaughter.
Reminds me of my roadie days when the band did so horribly the lead guitarist wanted to seal the exits and burn the place down so there would be no witnesses.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2253
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:49:00 -
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Tor Saani wrote:I was watching the stream from work as I sadly couldn't participate but did CCP seriously just round up everyone in empire and lead them directly into the CFCs staging systems with no warning or support?
Honestly though anyone who pays attention to what is going on in Eve should have seen that it was a CCP/Dev AWOX once you started moving. That area has literally thousands of CFC pilots staging for the war effort. Any idiot should have known there was no way you were getting through that pipe. I got through the pipe. I got to the beacon. Then I died horribly. About what I expected to happen. |
El Space Mariachi
Love Squad
0
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:54:00 -
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devswarm federation
literally controlling ur game :^) |
Toshiro Ozuwara
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
275
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:06:00 -
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So CCP Awoxed the highsec pubbies. Well done CCP, there is hope for you yet. |
Peter Dostoevsky
League of Angered Gentlemen
28
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:21:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:So CCP Awoxed the highsec pubbies. Well done CCP, there is hope for you yet.
I was hoping that at least a few would make it into 8V- so that I could ***** on kills in a stealth bomber.
Alas, I was only able to ***** on the Brave Newbies fleet. |
Elfi Wolfe
University of Caille Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.11.08 01:04:00 -
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Peter Dostoevsky wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:So CCP Awoxed the highsec pubbies. Well done CCP, there is hope for you yet. I was hoping that at least a few would make it into 8V- so that I could ***** on kills in a stealth bomber. Alas, I was only able to ***** on the Brave Newbies fleet.
Part of the Fleet I was in made it to 8V- but lost almost 2/3 of the fleet getting there. And then they said the research station blew as we was aligning to warp.. so then we broke up and tried to make it back to empire space. |
ArmageddonX
7
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Posted - 2013.11.08 01:25:00 -
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To the OP,
Yes. That's exactly what CCP did. |
Powers Sa
719
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Posted - 2013.11.08 01:42:00 -
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Tor Saani wrote:I was watching the stream from work as I sadly couldn't participate but did CCP seriously just round up everyone in empire and lead them directly into the CFCs staging systems with no warning or support?
Honestly though anyone who pays attention to what is going on in Eve should have seen that it was a CCP/Dev AWOX once you started moving. That area has literally thousands of CFC pilots staging for the war effort. Any idiot should have known there was no way you were getting through that pipe. You seem upset. |
Kristalll
Valkyrie Professional Resources I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
2
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Posted - 2013.11.08 02:00:00 -
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Or MAYBE the event created content by taking a highsec security force to the pirate factions homeland to fight the pirates. Did anyone expect this to not be a pvp event?
Highseccers died due to lack of coordination to players that were better than them. How is that CCPs fault? When PL repped Marlona's Nyx and killed everyone else was that Marlona's fault?
Would you rather CCP magicked everyone to the fight? Or let people pve in tidi? |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
973
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Posted - 2013.11.08 02:05:00 -
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Surely you dont think CCP was joking, OP? |
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JwintooX
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:14:00 -
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Survival of the fittest and you highsec pubbies failed, now go back mining and be quiet........ O yea welcome to EvE |
Johnathan Severasse
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
63
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:12:00 -
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JwintooX wrote:Survival of the fittest and you highsec pubbies failed, now go back mining and be quiet........ O yea welcome to EvE
Pets are not allowed to talk here. |
Tilly Delnero
Licorne Ventures Ltd.
85
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:15:00 -
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First CCP removes the 'event' from 'live event' by being oblivious to TiDi for hours before quitting fleet and going silent, then CFC and RZR remove the 'live' for good measure.
Seems CCP does play EVE after all. /golfclap
CCP: if you wanted people to stop asking for live events, you could have just said as such rather than AWOXing the entire fleet y'know. |
Sushi Nardieu
Encapsulated.
170
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:18:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:Surely you dont think CCP was joking, OP?
Please don't. |
Landon Dallocortt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:19:00 -
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I don't know how it could have been seen as anything BUT a bunch of high-sec players massing against a bunch of low-sec players since there were call to arms for both parties. I TiDi'd halfway there and decided I'd never get there. Slow motion warps only looked cool the first hundred times you've seen it. |
JwintooX
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:26:00 -
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Johnathan Severasse wrote:JwintooX wrote:Survival of the fittest and you highsec pubbies failed, now go back mining and be quiet........ O yea welcome to EvE Pets are not allowed to talk here.
Sorry thought PL and N3 were pulling the strings when you got evicted sounds like a pet to me, what's it like following in our legacy as a FW alliance? |
Nartel Vortok
Love Squad
15
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:31:00 -
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Johnathan Severasse wrote:JwintooX wrote:Survival of the fittest and you highsec pubbies failed, now go back mining and be quiet........ O yea welcome to EvE Pets are not allowed to talk here.
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ALI Virgo
hirr RAZOR Alliance
34
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:39:00 -
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Tor Saani wrote:I was watching the stream from work as I sadly couldn't participate but did CCP seriously just round up everyone in empire and lead them directly into the CFCs staging systems with no warning or support?
Honestly though anyone who pays attention to what is going on in Eve should have seen that it was a CCP/Dev AWOX once you started moving. That area has literally thousands of CFC pilots staging for the war effort. Any idiot should have known there was no way you were getting through that pipe. Not cfc but razor staging my staging lol :) |
ALI Virgo
hirr RAZOR Alliance
34
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:41:00 -
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Elfi Wolfe wrote:Maybe the event was to show the Empires dieing to the null sec alliances. What next? Goons taking over Gallente empire?
Made it to system but 2/3 of fleet die on the way. Made it back to empire in pod after running 5 gate camps. they could had un aggressed an burned back to gate. the ones that stayed in sendaya many of them attacked station and died to npc guns lol |
ALI Virgo
hirr RAZOR Alliance
34
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:43:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:FC said "jump [into 0.0 system]", I turned my ship 180 degrees and jumped back to high-sec instead. I was 100% sure it was a trap. 200+ ships in the fleet popped needlessly - along with ~800 more ships in other fleets.
Now I feel myself like an oracle (+ some guilt for leaving fleet instead of trying to stop them). However it's pretty simple to predict outcome of CCP's actions since Incarna: you just have to assume they'll fail in the hardest way possible. lol nice. you could have fought as one and lived. warp to gate to zero after you send outa scout. get dash board. all jump hold cloke call primary aligin pew pew pew..etc ya know noob stuff |
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ALI Virgo
hirr RAZOR Alliance
34
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:44:00 -
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ALI Virgo wrote:Lipbite wrote:FC said "jump [into 0.0 system]", I turned my ship 180 degrees and jumped back to high-sec instead. I was 100% sure it was a trap. 200+ ships in the fleet popped needlessly - along with ~800 more ships in other fleets.
Now I feel myself like an oracle (+ some guilt for leaving fleet instead of trying to stop them). However it's pretty simple to predict outcome of CCP's actions since Incarna: you just have to assume they'll fail in the hardest way possible. lol nice. you could have fought as one and lived. warp to gate to zero after you send outa scout. get dash board. all jump hold session timer call primary aligin pew pew pew..etc ya know noob stuff
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ALI Virgo
hirr RAZOR Alliance
34
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:45:00 -
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Landon Dallocortt wrote:I don't know how it could have been seen as anything BUT a bunch of high-sec players massing against a bunch of low-sec players since there were call to arms for both parties. I TiDi'd halfway there and decided I'd never get there. Slow motion warps only looked cool the first hundred times you've seen it. low sec try null sec sir. null sec are not pirates. but sov holders |
ALI Virgo
hirr RAZOR Alliance
34
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:49:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:My main greivance was the fact that for most of the ppl who were in one of the "staging" systems an hour or two BEFORE the event....were not even able to get to the event before it was over.
I only managed to get 4 jumps away from the second 'staging' before i called it quits after nearly three hours of TiDi'd warp/jumps.
Pretty much wasted my day...to play the slow-mo version of 'Warp Online'. we were in staging system for last 3 months what where we bridge out pl and bl bridges out. it was nothing compared to us tackling supers and titian for 5 hours and having servers crash on us/ Welcome to nul sec eve sir. at times we have to wait 30 m to jump into systems of tidi and burn through bubbles and hostiles to fight and kill. just the basics.
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ALI Virgo
hirr RAZOR Alliance
34
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Posted - 2013.11.08 04:52:00 -
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Peter Dostoevsky wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:So CCP Awoxed the highsec pubbies. Well done CCP, there is hope for you yet. I was hoping that at least a few would make it into 8V- so that I could ***** on kills in a stealth bomber. Alas, I was only able to ***** on the Brave Newbies fleet.
Sb can be fun burn ahead of fleet bomb and kill any bubbler on your way. create perches for fleet. sorry for your loss of your bomber but if you played your cards right you could have been an important factor. the bombers bar kept 100 sb in doril fr considerable time |
Starain
SoT DarkSide.
29
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Posted - 2013.11.08 05:10:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fqAIjcb-fk DarkSide.+Gorgon Empire+Bright Side of Death vs Everyone and The Backstabbers^W Unthinkables Gathering all the pain on the way from heaven to hell: Sarum Prime - Doril - Hemin - RMOC-W Despite of fact that my ship is dead, that our fleet was backstabbed - at the end of video, time dilation from 5 to 25%, lags - it was COOL!
1. http://kb.ds-alliance.com/battle/b9596/ 2. http://kb.ds-alliance.com/battle/b9599/ 3. http://kb.ds-alliance.com/battle/b9600/
Soundtrack: 1. Sagisu Shiro - The Ultimate Soldier ("EVANGELION:3.0"YOU CAN(NOT)REDO. DISC1) 2. Sagisu Shiro - Bataille d'Espace ("EVANGELION:3.0"YOU CAN(NOT)REDO. DISC2) |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
204
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Posted - 2013.11.08 05:27:00 -
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Tor Saani wrote:I was watching the stream from work as I sadly couldn't participate but did CCP seriously just round up everyone in empire and lead them directly into the CFCs staging systems with no warning or support?
Honestly though anyone who pays attention to what is going on in Eve should have seen that it was a CCP/Dev AWOX once you started moving. That area has literally thousands of CFC pilots staging for the war effort. Any idiot should have known there was no way you were getting through that pipe.
Those that might be tired of high sec might actually like what happened even if they died in a ball of fire. Those that didn't will remain in the relative safety of high sec. |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
1171
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Posted - 2013.11.08 05:27:00 -
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ALI Virgo wrote:Lipbite wrote:FC said "jump [into 0.0 system]", I turned my ship 180 degrees and jumped back to high-sec instead. I was 100% sure it was a trap. 200+ ships in the fleet popped needlessly - along with ~800 more ships in other fleets.
Now I feel myself like an oracle (+ some guilt for leaving fleet instead of trying to stop them). However it's pretty simple to predict outcome of CCP's actions since Incarna: you just have to assume they'll fail in the hardest way possible. lol nice. you could have fought as one and lived. warp to gate to zero after you send outa scout. get dash board. all jump hold cloke call primary aligin pew pew pew..etc ya know noob stuff
There weren't too many primary calls because null fleets had spies: they knew exact names of our FCs and popped them instantly. Also they knew exactly when and where our scouts were at any given moment.
Whole thing became un-fun right when devs suggested to jump 33 systems away from Jita. When they've suggested to jump into null it turned into trap so obvious and stupid people couldn't believe their own common sense (which says "CCP's only motivation is selling you more GTCs to compensate your time and ISK losses, you shouldn't trust them"). |
Elfi Wolfe
University of Caille Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.11.08 05:29:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:
Those that might be tired of high sec might actually like what happened even if they died in a ball of fire. Those that didn't will remain in the relative safety of high sec.
You mean that we have no chance of wining and just serve to pad your killboard? |
Jack Lennox
Killing With a Smile
2
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Posted - 2013.11.08 05:38:00 -
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CCP awox = best awox
+1 for CCP |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
656
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Posted - 2013.11.08 05:58:00 -
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JwintooX wrote:Johnathan Severasse wrote:JwintooX wrote:Survival of the fittest and you highsec pubbies failed, now go back mining and be quiet........ O yea welcome to EvE Pets are not allowed to talk here. Sorry thought PL and N3 were pulling the strings when you got evicted sounds like a pet to me, what's it like following in our legacy as a FW alliance?
He's trying to say that without the CFC we wouldn't have been able to take or hold sov in Delve. He knows that from experience since he's in TEST. |
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AetomHaert Mother
THORN Syndicate Black Legion.
28
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Posted - 2013.11.08 06:17:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:ALI Virgo wrote:Lipbite wrote:FC said "jump [into 0.0 system]", I turned my ship 180 degrees and jumped back to high-sec instead. I was 100% sure it was a trap. 200+ ships in the fleet popped needlessly - along with ~800 more ships in other fleets.
Now I feel myself like an oracle (+ some guilt for leaving fleet instead of trying to stop them). However it's pretty simple to predict outcome of CCP's actions since Incarna: you just have to assume they'll fail in the hardest way possible. lol nice. you could have fought as one and lived. warp to gate to zero after you send outa scout. get dash board. all jump hold cloke call primary aligin pew pew pew..etc ya know noob stuff There weren't too many primary calls because null fleets had spies: they knew exact names of our FCs and popped them instantly. Also they knew exactly when and where our scouts were at any given moment. Whole thing became un-fun right when devs suggested to jump 33 systems away from Jita. When they've suggested to jump into null it turned into trap so obvious and stupid that people couldn't believe their own common sense (which says "CCP's only motivation is selling you more GTCs to compensate your time and ISK losses, you shouldn't trust them").
Oh my. Cry more please.
You should be lambasting CCP for some lack of preparation here, but it has nothing to do with fools thinking that a jaunt through lowsec into 0.0 will get them killed.
Where CCP failed was in keeping the rout reinforced to prevent stupid tidi (the amount of tidi, not the stupidity of it.) and making sur that players would be able to get from Sendaya to doril in decent order. If you think that the location doomed the live event, you are even more half whited than your previous statement makes you sound. At EVERY SINGLE LIVE EVENT EVER some **** in your cheerios group has been there to do just that. If you think that Goons were not going to have a fleet there to shoot at "Highsec pubbies" then you are ******* stupid. If you think that Snuffbox or Tri mk8 or PL wouldn't be there for some cheap laughs at you, you are probably missing more than a few brain cells.
I am just butthurt because an Aeon moonwalked out of tackle because we couldn't get a fleet bridged through your TiDi mess quick enough. |
Abulurd Boniface
The Scope Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2013.11.08 06:24:00 -
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I read 'Go to Stacmon', then 'Go to Lhal'.
Afterwards the goal was to go to the zoo, and not just any part of the zoo, freak show central. I couldn't wrap my head around why anyone would actually want to do this or in that fashion.
I smelled a big rat but I would have taken the bait, anything for a weird life, if it hadn't been for the 10% TiDi that made the warp to gate take between 2 to 3 minutes, sans alignment, sans jumping through.
I didn't feel like getting my ass handed to me in slow motion after spending at least an hour paddling through the molasses and so I docked up.
One of my better decisions this year. |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
178
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Posted - 2013.11.08 07:03:00 -
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The only players that lost, were those that didn't participate.
Doesn't matter whether people came out in kitchen sink high sec fleets, or shiny null sec doctrines. Just so long as they came out to play. CCP didn't create an ounce of content with their live event.....the players that undocked and came out to fight created the content. It's CCP that owes you a thanks.
For the new PvP'ers and care bears that showed up- GF's to you. Don't let the people too scared to lose fake spaceships pee in your Cheerios. You came out, fought and died. That's all any of us did. Hopefully you had fun. Hopefully you realize that being blown up in a game is still fun. If just one care bear realizes that losing internet spaceships doesn't matter and moves out of high sec, then the live event succeeded.
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Lipbite
Express Hauler
1173
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Posted - 2013.11.08 07:50:00 -
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Alaric Faelen wrote:If just one care bear realizes that losing internet spaceships doesn't matter and moves out of high sec, then the live event succeeded. I'm sure those high-sec dwellers who normally lose 1-5bill worth pirate battleships were very impressed with "sudden" loss (live events = popping) of their expendable fleet issue / t3 ships and surely they will run into warm embraces of null and low alliances who offer high taxes, LP-only missions, hours-long roams in TiDi and all other sorts of time-sinks.
For me this event was totally successful: it confirmed my idea how CCP is falling apart since Incarna and cannot offer anything new. |
Tasarin Markov
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 08:47:00 -
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Hey just want to say thanks for such a warm welcome into Null Sec! While i did loose my ship, not at the gate camp but at the Station, it does make me wonder how peoplecan play the same game i play and not pay attention at all and think that no one would possibly ever mess with a CCP live event? |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
180
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Posted - 2013.11.08 09:11:00 -
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Lipbite, wow, someone else who's never been to null sec, opining on it nonetheless.
Not only is pretty much every assertion you made utterly incorrect, but it's telling that it's pretty much about PvE.
Care bears do not normally lose ships in high sec. In fact it's so uncommon as to set off a new whine thread when it does happen. It's so uncommon that PvE is reduced to 3rd party websites that tell you every damage to tank, deal, spawn triggers....and of course how high sec needs to be totally safe. In contrast, we fly entire fleets of expensive ships, fully expecting losses. Losing a billion isk boosting Tengu is just a risk we take with every fleet. One good pipebombing could wipe out more isk in a single fleet than entire high sec alliances have in their wallets.
I live in null sec and haven't run an LP mission since I was a newb in high sec. Sov null, of course, doesn't have agents in our stations, so once again, completely incorrect assumptions. Must have never been there.
We pay the same tax as NPC corps/POCO's- but I also get my ships moved by carrier for free, anything I manufacture moved to high sec markets by jump freighter (I cant fly them, so it's a favor for someone else to do it) for free, entire fitted ships in a corp hangar, free skillbooks, an SRP so flying PvP is for all intents and purposes- free to me. By no means have I ever contributed to my alliance as much as I've received in support from them.
TiDi is a local event, and a roam would not spend long in it unless actively in a fight. Once again, this seems like something you don't actually have any experience with.
Spreading false information as an excuse for your own choices in gameplay doesn't do anyone a service. You are demonstrably wrong in virtually every claim you make. I only hope new players don't end up actually believing your nonsense. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
484
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Posted - 2013.11.08 10:07:00 -
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Soon, we will read about "High sec empire loosing control, empire capsuleers slaughtered, everything went better than expected." |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
237
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Posted - 2013.11.08 10:13:00 -
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As someone who was in from the start of it on the pain-dealing side, it was fun. Massive amounts of fun.
CCP led people into a deathtrap, to be quite honest the commanders of faction fleets wouldn't have fc'd for long because they were sent home via the pod highway really quickly. What you've got to realize is, there wasn't a massive blob of CFC forces like those you see during sov timer battles. In fact, last I saw it CFC fleets in 8V- were outnumbered by CONCORD supporting fleets. Our AHAC gang numbered 30, Goons had a tad more but it certainly wasn't in hundreds.
I think the moral of the story is simple: don't trust the CONCORD, don't trust the empires, get your own FCs and form your own fleets.
All things said, we didn't exactly "mess with the event" - we had an objective, prevent the evil popo from destroying the laboratories of our good ol' Serpentis pals. Op was a success on our side. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
484
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Posted - 2013.11.08 10:17:00 -
[49] - Quote
Yeah, CCP played dumb and ignorant empire FC. Live event like no other. |
KaRa DaVuT
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.11.08 10:30:00 -
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RP: Empire Navies expand call to action against enemy forces
Considering how the battle went with the post above, that the loss by the Empire factions with empire capsuleer sacrifices was expected/planned.
And If the intention was this, then it's a well-played redirect of rage from CCP to the Empire faction in-game. Also we dont have to talk about the fact that, it definitely feeds the Rubicon theme of " the empires are losing their grasp on power."
TL;DR: You have been used, my friends...
And you died gloriously to us, goat gods are pleased with your flesh nomnom =) |
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Madgic
Nexis. Dead Terrorists
1
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Posted - 2013.11.08 10:31:00 -
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Whilst I fully appreciate that the Hisec players got expertly lead to their deaths, we need to spare a thought for the Lowsec, and Null sec players that didn't even make it to the second staging point LOL.
Over 2000 players set off, about 1300 through High and about 700 through low, by the time we got to the staging point, I think there were about 3 left, and on arrival at the staging point, it was clear that TiDi had claimed over 1000 pilots before the event even started.
I guess at least if this marks the end of incursions and the Multiboxing Diva Nerds. then perhaps the 4 hour warp through tar was worth it.
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Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
237
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Posted - 2013.11.08 10:45:00 -
[52] - Quote
Well, the Republic FC was in a Broadsword that went up in flames rather quickly, killed by Brave Newbies - he was dead before we hit the field. As we did, we found the Gallente FC near us in a Phobos and disposed of him equally quickly - if he was calling targets on comms, he would've stopped quickly.
The pod had Auroras and Slaves in, thing tanked like a total brick though. With enough RR on him he could've tanked us fine. |
Judiciary Pag
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:04:00 -
[53] - Quote
CCP, I'm fine with messy, laggy and hilariously chaotic events, so please don't feel discouraged by all the rage here ...just, don't make us travel 20+ jumps through heavy TIDI again, ever :p |
Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Sicarius Draconis
49
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Posted - 2013.11.08 14:10:00 -
[54] - Quote
Alaric Faelen wrote:The only players that lost, were those that didn't participate.
Doesn't matter whether people came out in kitchen sink high sec fleets, or shiny null sec doctrines. Just so long as they came out to play. CCP didn't create an ounce of content with their live event.....the players that undocked and came out to fight created the content. It's CCP that owes you a thanks.
For the new PvP'ers and care bears that showed up- GF's to you. Don't let the people too scared to lose fake spaceships pee in your Cheerios. You came out, fought and died. That's all any of us did. Hopefully you had fun. Hopefully you realize that being blown up in a game is still fun. If just one care bear realizes that losing internet spaceships doesn't matter and moves out of high sec, then the live event succeeded.
This is prolly the best thing that i have read on any of these Live event threads. +100000000 to this guy, he is winning EVE and gets it. |
Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Sicarius Draconis
49
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Posted - 2013.11.08 14:15:00 -
[55] - Quote
Alaric Faelen wrote:Lipbite, wow, someone else who's never been to null sec, opining on it nonetheless.
Not only is pretty much every assertion you made utterly incorrect, but it's telling that it's pretty much about PvE.
Care bears do not normally lose ships in high sec. In fact it's so uncommon as to set off a new whine thread when it does happen. It's so uncommon that PvE is reduced to 3rd party websites that tell you every damage to tank, deal, spawn triggers....and of course how high sec needs to be totally safe. In contrast, we fly entire fleets of expensive ships, fully expecting losses. Losing a billion isk boosting Tengu is just a risk we take with every fleet. One good pipebombing could wipe out more isk in a single fleet than entire high sec alliances have in their wallets.
I live in null sec and haven't run an LP mission since I was a newb in high sec. Sov null, of course, doesn't have agents in our stations, so once again, completely incorrect assumptions. Must have never been there.
We pay the same tax as NPC corps/POCO's- but I also get my ships moved by carrier for free, anything I manufacture moved to high sec markets by jump freighter (I cant fly them, so it's a favor for someone else to do it) for free, entire fitted ships in a corp hangar, free skillbooks, an SRP so flying PvP is for all intents and purposes- free to me. By no means have I ever contributed to my alliance as much as I've received in support from them.
TiDi is a local event, and a roam would not spend long in it unless actively in a fight. Once again, this seems like something you don't actually have any experience with.
Spreading false information as an excuse for your own choices in gameplay doesn't do anyone a service. You are demonstrably wrong in virtually every claim you make. I only hope new players don't end up actually believing your nonsense. You sir should run for the CSM.....or President of what ever country you are from. I'll vote you. |
Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Sicarius Draconis
49
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Posted - 2013.11.08 14:19:00 -
[56] - Quote
Lipbite wrote:Alaric Faelen wrote:If just one care bear realizes that losing internet spaceships doesn't matter and moves out of high sec, then the live event succeeded. I'm sure those high-sec dwellers who normally lose 1-5bill worth pirate battleships were very impressed with "sudden" loss (live events = popping) of their expendable fleet issue / t3 ships and surely they will run into warm embraces of null and low alliances who offer high taxes, LP-only missions, hours-long roams in TiDi and all other sorts of time-sinks. For me this event was totally successful: it confirmed my idea how CCP is falling apart since Incarna and cannot offer anything new.
I feel that this game has only improved since Incarna, so I don't understand how you can say it is falling apart. The only problem with there event was in was in in the USTZ. Then I could have been there. |
1Robert McNamara1
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
32
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Posted - 2013.11.08 15:04:00 -
[57] - Quote
Sad I missed this.
All hail our new Angel overlords! |
March rabbit
True Horde
867
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Posted - 2013.11.08 15:23:00 -
[58] - Quote
Peter Dostoevsky wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:So CCP Awoxed the highsec pubbies. Well done CCP, there is hope for you yet. I was hoping that at least a few would make it into 8V- so that I could ***** on kills in a stealth bomber. Alas, I was only able to ***** on the Brave Newbies fleet. made it there, collected some loot, returned to Dodixie in perfect condition
However it does not mean that this event didn't failed hardly |
March rabbit
True Horde
867
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Posted - 2013.11.08 15:31:00 -
[59] - Quote
Caviar Liberta wrote:Those that might be tired of high sec might actually like what happened even if they died in a ball of fire. you mean: - bad FCing and coordination - waiting for any information from leaders - heavy TiDi - useless death in gate camp ?
yea, i've heard that sometime victim of **** gets used to it and needs to be raped again
but these are very rare cases (i think) |
Petar Harad
Sebiestor Tribe
100
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Posted - 2013.11.08 15:35:00 -
[60] - Quote
Kristalll wrote:Would you rather CCP magicked everyone to the fight? I'm sure every pilot on the null-sec side slow boated to the op and that there was absolutely no involvement of any magic...bridging. |
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Borsek
A.A.A Ragnarok.
42
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:28:00 -
[61] - Quote
What would have made this event awesome and not a total and complete waste of my time would be CCP bridging everyone from the staging systems straight to null, into a reinforced node. That way we'd get a huge blob of empire bears vs a huge blob of null bears, it would lead to a laggy but fun fight and empire bears might actually get convinced that they can hold their own and people might make new alliances and/or join existing ones.
The way it was lead, however, reminded me of those factory lines where chickens are clamped into a conveyor belt that proceeds to cut their heads off.
I won't be joining any more live events, instead, I'll stay in my wh home and laugh at the people that do. TiDi is exactly the reason why nullsec sucks.
2/10 CCP, bad event is bad and you should feel bad. |
Scuzzy Logic
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
52
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:13:00 -
[62] - Quote
Phoenix Jones wrote:Yea. CCP just shot themselves in the foot... well really in the @ss....
I actually feel bad for some of the people that blindly followed CCP's directions and got obliterated... And to think there was suppose to be sometype of.. story to this?
The hilarious part happened when when people who made it form the satging sytem to the event objective (made it to light up a BLops Cyno in my prowler, gotta love interdictor speed+cloak in TiDi) the actors were already bored and Devstroyed the objective just as the first armor fleet managed to get more than 70 members. |
Scuzzy Logic
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
52
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:14:00 -
[63] - Quote
Borsek wrote:What would have made this event awesome and not a total and complete waste of my time would be CCP bridging everyone from the staging systems straight to null, into a reinforced node. That way we'd get a huge blob of empire bears vs a huge blob of null bears, it would lead to a laggy but fun fight and empire bears might actually get convinced that they can hold their own and people might make new alliances and/or join existing ones.
The way it was lead, however, reminded me of those factory lines where chickens are clamped into a conveyor belt that proceeds to cut their heads off.
I won't be joining any more live events, instead, I'll stay in my wh home and laugh at the people that do. TiDi is exactly the reason why nullsec sucks.
2/10 CCP, bad event is bad and you should feel bad.
Indeed. You summed up my whole new attitude towards this situation. |
ALI Virgo
hirr RAZOR Alliance
35
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:21:00 -
[64] - Quote
your cool man :) thankyou for the links |
ALI Virgo
hirr RAZOR Alliance
35
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:26:00 -
[65] - Quote
Borsek wrote:What would have made this event awesome and not a total and complete waste of my time would be CCP bridging everyone from the staging systems straight to null, into a reinforced node. That way we'd get a huge blob of empire bears vs a huge blob of null bears, it would lead to a laggy but fun fight and empire bears might actually get convinced that they can hold their own and people might make new alliances and/or join existing ones.
The way it was lead, however, reminded me of those factory lines where chickens are clamped into a conveyor belt that proceeds to cut their heads off.
I won't be joining any more live events, instead, I'll stay in my wh home and laugh at the people that do. TiDi is exactly the reason why nullsec sucks.
2/10 CCP, bad event is bad and you should feel bad. a few days ago we had supers and titans tackled in tidi after many many hours of fighting the server crashed. it made many of up upset. after cpp brought you to our staging system we almost forgot what happened a few days ago. I apologize that yout group was not prepared to run into nullsec war. there was a three way going on as your group jumped into it. CCP or who ever was that fleets fc should consider treating all null sec as null sec. many of your group pods were like 3 billion . over 2 billion fitted faction ships. kitchen sink sank.. sorry |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
208
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Posted - 2013.11.09 02:39:00 -
[66] - Quote
Elfi Wolfe wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:
Those that might be tired of high sec might actually like what happened even if they died in a ball of fire. Those that didn't will remain in the relative safety of high sec.
You mean that we have no chance of wining and just serve to pad your killboard?
Not my killboard, unless you are blinky red or a valid war target. I try to stay as far away from Empty Sec as possible. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
208
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Posted - 2013.11.09 02:46:00 -
[67] - Quote
Madgic wrote:Whilst I fully appreciate that the Hisec players got expertly lead to their deaths, we need to spare a thought for the Lowsec, and Null sec players that didn't even make it to the second staging point LOL.
Over 2000 players set off, about 1300 through High and about 700 through low, by the time we got to the staging point, I think there were about 3 left, and on arrival at the staging point, it was clear that TiDi had claimed over 1000 pilots before the event even started.
I guess at least if this marks the end of incursions and the Multiboxing Diva Nerds. then perhaps the 4 hour warp through tar was worth it.
We (Villore Accords+Galmil) moved a fleet or few into the area. TiDi wasn't that bad. A couple systems had it but wasn't that noticeable.
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Borsek
A.A.A Ragnarok.
44
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Posted - 2013.11.09 05:10:00 -
[68] - Quote
Man, I don't give a crap, I brought a drake and a 50M pod, when the piece of... brick? died, I switched to a locally bought griffin and started looting the wrecks, and I got a domination x-large booster which basically covered the worthless stuff I brought.
My problem was 20j of tidi, which seperated the empire fleet into smaller 10-man gangs. By the time I reached lowsec, even, the event was already over (killed by CCP).
I was in nullsec at some point, and I do know how it works. I've done the blob stuff before, and I got bored of it real fast. Now I live in wh space, which I prefer, due to the 30v30 man engagements max (rarely ever more than that). I was fully prepared to die, but I was hoping for an 'epic' engagement of capsuleers and NPCs (or devs in ships), a giant clusterfuck of everyone versus everyone, something that would be part of eve history, you know? Something that revealed a bit of lore, or the end of empire incursions, or the unveiling of ghost sites or something that would change eve. This was, however, just a waste of (my) time.
Good for you guys though, glad to hear you got some nice kills out of that, at least someone had a good time. |
Atomic Option
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
71
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Posted - 2013.11.09 06:39:00 -
[69] - Quote
Elfi Wolfe wrote:Maybe the event was to show the Empires dieing to the null sec alliances. What next? Goons taking over Gallente empire?
Made it to system but 2/3 of fleet die on the way. Made it back to empire in pod after running 5 gate camps.
It would be amusing to watch goons take TEST's space again. Kinda like watching an Old Yeller marathon. |
Halki Haxx
The Quacking Ducks
1
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Posted - 2013.11.09 13:00:00 -
[70] - Quote
I probably would have joined but there was a party at ccp headquarters so... |
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epicurus ataraxia
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
171
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Posted - 2013.11.09 13:50:00 -
[71] - Quote
Halki Haxx wrote:I probably would have joined but there was a party at ccp headquarters so...
So a good time was had by all then?
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Halki Haxx
The Quacking Ducks
1
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Posted - 2013.11.09 14:47:00 -
[72] - Quote
epicurus ataraxia wrote:Halki Haxx wrote:I probably would have joined but there was a party at ccp headquarters so... So a good time was had by all then? food and beer paid by ccp so a pretty good time |
epicurus ataraxia
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
174
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Posted - 2013.11.09 14:59:00 -
[73] - Quote
Halki Haxx wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Halki Haxx wrote:I probably would have joined but there was a party at ccp headquarters so... So a good time was had by all then? food and beer paid by ccp so a pretty good time
Quafe Strippers and human sacrifice, excellent entertainment then,
What could possibly go Wrong? |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
187
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Posted - 2013.11.09 20:20:00 -
[74] - Quote
I think the major failings of CCP during the event were more to do with people's expectations, than what was being offered. The high sec fleet wanted this to be a 'training' fleet, where they would be instructed in PvP. Instead, it was just a convoy to a battle ground and everyone was sort of left to their own devices.
In CCP's defense however, the middle of a combat fleet is not the time to be asking how to broadcast for reps, or how to set up comms or overviews. If the fleet had taken on training people on those basics, it would have never left high sec. There are corps that specialize in training, like E-Uni. Even there you will have all that stuff set up before you ever join a combat fleet.
A live event with thousands of other players trying to enjoy themselves is the wrong place to expect everything to stop for tutorial instruction.
On the other hand, Eve is notorious for critical information being obscure or only found in sources outside the game. The event announcement would have been a good place to compile that kind of info for easy reference. A set of links, perhaps partner with E-Uni to use their library of instructional pages- would have gone far in people not feeling so utterly lost.
I can't speak to CCP's (lack of) FC'ing. Only that in a fleet without everyone on voice comms, not everyone knowing how to use the broadcast window, etc....the FC is facing an impossible task. Movement orders, target calling, when to GTFO...all happens too quickly to rely on typing in fleet chat. Consider the FC's position with 1000 people in fleet, most of them new to PvP, and most of them unable to adequately communicate. I'm not excusing poor leadership like not delegating authority or tapping experienced players in fleet to help out, but you do have to step back and realize that the FC's were working with their hands tied.
The locations seemed poor choices. A long slog for the high sec folks, but we null sec people only had to take a few actual gates after using our jump bridge networks in sov space. I got blown up and was able to reship and rejoin the fight within a few minutes. Not only was the convoy horrible in TiDi for the high sec people, but they were half the map from home.
Lastly, the fact that the high sec fleet was crushed was inevitable for many reasons. The one's I've mentioned already, but also- regardless of their numbers, the high sec fleets were kitchen sink affairs without a co-ordinated tank choice, engagement range, common ammo that can be shared, etc. In contrast, my fleet had something like 47 people in it, and we obliterated the CCP Vindi fleet in 8V. We had something like 120+ kills for about half a dozen losses before we went home. Our fleet was based on a solid doctrine of mutually supportive ships, with all fleet roles filled before we ever left home. We bring a balanced fleet, not just a gaggle of DPS boats spamming F1, everyone has a role and is expected to fill it. Given that this level of co-ordination was impossible with the high sec fleets, the odds were stacked against them from the start, no matter if they outnumbered us 10 to 1.
Like I said, it's just a game. I had fun even when I screwed up, and landed directly in the middle of an enemy fleet. I swear I could hear them laughing across the internet as they melted my ship and podded me in seconds. I just wiped off the clone goo and fired up another ship to rejoin the fight. |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
870
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Posted - 2013.11.10 02:11:00 -
[75] - Quote
Alaric Faelen wrote:A live event with thousands of other players trying to enjoy themselves
The event announcement would have been a good place to compile that kind of info for easy reference. A set of links, perhaps partner with E-Uni to use their library of instructional pages- would have gone far in people not feeling so utterly lost.
The locations seemed poor choices. A long slog for the high sec folks, but we null sec people only had to take a few actual gates after using our jump bridge networks in sov space. I got blown up and was able to reship and rejoin the fight within a few minutes. Not only was the convoy horrible in TiDi for the high sec people, but they were half the map from home.
I've edited the above (while it was a good read and one of the most postive I've seen from one of "you guys" lol) this is what I posted in the threadnaught:
Maximus Aerelius wrote:While I appreciate what you are saying from an IG perspective the fact of the matter is that this didn't just affect IG Characters this affected real people in their real lives. Yes, "EVE is real" and all that but you know as well as I do that this was a disaster.
I personally put in time of work due to CCP's propaganda regarding this event. That was my choice, correct, and had it been the event it was advertised to be for all involved then I would as previously stated been bragging to all and sundry of how awesome EVE Online is and that I was there I was part of something that took EVE forward (pre-determined outcome assured) and that I had fun doing it.
Instead of the above, my Corp Mate logged for the night, I spent 4 hours in TiDi hell and I was docked in Sarum Prime the night before so it wasn't even getting to the 1st staging system where my TiDi hell started. En-route info was filtered through from the 3 channels we had open "Intergalatic Summit", "Live Events" and "The Summit" along with Local, Fleet etc and OFC Twitter. 3 jumps out from Shedoo and it was all over according to the channels of which nothing much was being pushed through.
So while I appreciate that IG lore and the propaganda machine will spin this fantastically it makes no matter to the fact that CCP abused it's player base of paying customers for what would appear to be 'Office Entertainment' and failed to deliver a LIVE Event and the preparation required to host it. Therefore it should apologise to those people who did attend to try and add content and that changed their actual lives to enable this.
EDIT:
Oh and I was burning as fast as possible under 10% TiDi in a Drake with my fleet strung out over 4/5 systems I believe from around 1900hrs. Didn't even get to our RV in Shedoo to form up and head in before it was declared over.
This rage I believe is nothing to do with the "PvP" side of this event but more to do with the above and that we were CCPd. |
Sgt Ocker
State War Academy Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2013.11.10 12:40:00 -
[76] - Quote
Maximus Aerelius wrote:Alaric Faelen wrote:A live event with thousands of other players trying to enjoy themselves
The event announcement would have been a good place to compile that kind of info for easy reference. A set of links, perhaps partner with E-Uni to use their library of instructional pages- would have gone far in people not feeling so utterly lost.
The locations seemed poor choices. A long slog for the high sec folks, but we null sec people only had to take a few actual gates after using our jump bridge networks in sov space. I got blown up and was able to reship and rejoin the fight within a few minutes. Not only was the convoy horrible in TiDi for the high sec people, but they were half the map from home. I've edited the above (while it was a good read and one of the most postive I've seen from one of "you guys" lol) this is what I posted in the threadnaught: Maximus Aerelius wrote:While I appreciate what you are saying from an IG perspective the fact of the matter is that this didn't just affect IG Characters this affected real people in their real lives. Yes, "EVE is real" and all that but you know as well as I do that this was a disaster.
I personally put in time of work due to CCP's propaganda regarding this event. That was my choice, correct, and had it been the event it was advertised to be for all involved then I would as previously stated been bragging to all and sundry of how awesome EVE Online is and that I was there I was part of something that took EVE forward (pre-determined outcome assured) and that I had fun doing it.
Instead of the above, my Corp Mate logged for the night, I spent 4 hours in TiDi hell and I was docked in Sarum Prime the night before so it wasn't even getting to the 1st staging system where my TiDi hell started. En-route info was filtered through from the 3 channels we had open "Intergalatic Summit", "Live Events" and "The Summit" along with Local, Fleet etc and OFC Twitter. 3 jumps out from Shedoo and it was all over according to the channels of which nothing much was being pushed through.
So while I appreciate that IG lore and the propaganda machine will spin this fantastically it makes no matter to the fact that CCP abused it's player base of paying customers for what would appear to be 'Office Entertainment' and failed to deliver a LIVE Event and the preparation required to host it. Therefore it should apologise to those people who did attend to try and add content and that changed their actual lives to enable this.
EDIT:
Oh and I was burning as fast as possible under 10% TiDi in a Drake with my fleet strung out over 4/5 systems I believe from around 1900hrs. Didn't even get to our RV in Shedoo to form up and head in before it was declared over. This rage I believe is nothing to do with the "PvP" side of this event but more to do with the above and that we were CCPd. Many from the nulsec alliances in attendance believe CCP led Event Participants to their dooms to appease those who had been affected by a recent system crash which caused the premature end of a major battle.
Conspiracy Theory; Large Nulsec group is involved in a major fight, unplanned so server node not reinforced, server crashes leaving large nulsec entity somewhat peeved.
CCP did in fact plan on using NPC titans to bridge event attendees to the battleground (explains why new "staging" route experienced so much TIDI as nodes were not reinforced)
To appease large nulsec entity, CCP decided to not use NPC titans and simply move staging for the event to a place (places) where the nulsec entity was known to be staging. (Meet in Sarum Prime for the event, now move 20 jumps to the staging area?)
Due to Tidi, poorly organised fleets and poor communication, event participant fleets were spread out like an overgrown grapevine.
CCP knowing the event would end in a slaughter at the hands of vastly superior nulsec fleets, had prearranged the end of the event. Many of those who managed to make it to (or close to) the event location, were informed the event was over. (the slaughter of the empire fleets was still going on)
The outcome was inevitable; Nulsec entities were to some extent appeased by CCP handing them a LOT of relatively risk free kills. CCp will find a positive way to spin this as a successful event and use it for future advertising.
***This is as stated a wild theory and is not in any way based on truth |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2458
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Posted - 2013.11.10 13:16:00 -
[77] - Quote
"So CCP took your assets, your time and your trust and then wasted them horribly?" "Yes, ma'am" *sobs* "Welcome to the club, new pilot" *pats back*
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epicurus ataraxia
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
212
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Posted - 2013.11.10 13:35:00 -
[78] - Quote
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:"So CCP took your assets, your time and your trust and then wasted them horribly?" "Yes, ma'am" *sobs* " Welcome to the club, new pilot" *pats back*
Want to buy another plex?
YOU HAVE TO BE F*^%#^ JOKING?!
Hopefully they will come to their senses on Monday. |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
872
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Posted - 2013.11.10 13:57:00 -
[79] - Quote
epicurus ataraxia wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:"So CCP took your assets, your time and your trust and then wasted them horribly?" "Yes, ma'am" *sobs* " Welcome to the club, new pilot" *pats back* Want to buy another plex? YOU HAVE TO BE F*^%#^ JOKING?! Hopefully they will come to their senses on Monday.
And the headlines start on Eve News24: Greedy Goblin: The largest awox in the history of EVE Online. |
epicurus ataraxia
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
213
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Posted - 2013.11.10 14:19:00 -
[80] - Quote
Please CCP This has gone beyond a disaster and has turned into an extinction level event. This really needs an emergency response. People on the Forums are begging for answers before we decide how we can justify being able to continue playing this game. There are clearly many more on the internet who are deciding now without the benefit of your response. This is of a massively greater magnitude than anything that has EVER happened before. IGNORING IT is just making things worse.
Please at least a short statement calling for calm.And assure people it is being treated seriously. |
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Sgt Ocker
State War Academy Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.11.10 15:00:00 -
[81] - Quote
epicurus ataraxia wrote:Please CCP This is no longer nullbears vs carebears,or discussing incompetence and implementation, the very ethics and structure of the company are now being ridiculed in major internet widely read sources. This has gone beyond a disaster and has turned into an extinction level event. This really needs an emergency response. People on the Forums are begging for answers before we decide how we can justify being able to continue playing this game. There are clearly many more on the internet who are deciding now without the benefit of your response. This is of a massively greater magnitude than anything that has EVER happened before. IGNORING IT is just making things worse. Please at least a short statement calling for calm.And assure people it is being treated seriously. You don't really expect a response from CCP at the weekend do you?? They are using the weekend to try and find a way to put a positive spin on this debacle.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2459
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Posted - 2013.11.10 15:03:00 -
[82] - Quote
Well, it's EN24.... take it with a bucketload of salt. |
epicurus ataraxia
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
213
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Posted - 2013.11.10 15:14:00 -
[83] - Quote
Sgt Ocker wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Please CCP This is no longer nullbears vs carebears,or discussing incompetence and implementation, the very ethics and structure of the company are now being ridiculed in major internet widely read sources. This has gone beyond a disaster and has turned into an extinction level event. This really needs an emergency response. People on the Forums are begging for answers before we decide how we can justify being able to continue playing this game. There are clearly many more on the internet who are deciding now without the benefit of your response. This is of a massively greater magnitude than anything that has EVER happened before. IGNORING IT is just making things worse. Please at least a short statement calling for calm.And assure people it is being treated seriously. You don't really expect a response from CCP at the weekend do you?? They are using the weekend to try and find a way to put a positive spin on this debacle. Sorry no ambulance or fire service in Iceland, It is the weekend May not be much of a business left to come back into on Monday at this rate. this should now be worrying everyone whatever their affiliations.
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Tilly Delnero
Licorne Ventures Ltd.
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Posted - 2013.11.10 15:16:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Well, it's EN24.... take it with a bucketload of salt. Yeah, EN24 has long been discredited as a source of reliable and unbiased information. I'm surprised Rupert Murdoch isn't the owner. |
Owen Levanth
Federated Deep Space Explorations
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Posted - 2013.11.29 10:15:00 -
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Tilly Delnero wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Well, it's EN24.... take it with a bucketload of salt. Yeah, EN24 has long been discredited as a source of reliable and unbiased information. I'm surprised Rupert Murdoch isn't the owner.
I'm surprised EN24 hasn't collapsed yet under the pressure of their lies and stupidity to form a black hole made up of nonsense. |
Sgt Ocker
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.29 10:24:00 -
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Tilly Delnero wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Well, it's EN24.... take it with a bucketload of salt. Yeah, EN24 has long been discredited as a source of reliable and unbiased information. I'm surprised Rupert Murdoch isn't the owner. I heard Rupert had made a bid for takeover but there were some hold outs stopping things moving forward. Hmm sounds a little like CCP saying they were unaware a major nulsec alliance was staging in the lowsec system they jumped all those hapless empire bears into.
*+* We won't sell out to Murdock*+* We need it so they only get the information we want them to have. |
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