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Ecchus
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Posted - 2003.08.31 23:09:00 -
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Along with fixing the passwords for Giant and Huge ones, could we have a Micro secure container? 10m3 in size, holds 12m3 passworded like the rest.
Some of the most valuable things in the game are really small, it would be nice to have a can that would hold them and fit into a shuttle for fast deliveries.
Oh, and thank you for letting us name our containers now, it really helps. :)
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Tagren
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Posted - 2003.09.01 00:11:00 -
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This could also be missued by m0o etc.. bye massive amount of containers.
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Ecchus
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Posted - 2003.09.01 01:16:00 -
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Clarify, please?
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Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee..
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Ruffles
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Posted - 2003.09.01 09:47:00 -
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We have two toally different scenarios for the use of secure containers, and I completely agree for the needs of both.
1) Transporting very valuable items. Kinda like a ship/train-safe. Just because you stop a train to rob it doesn't mean you can automatically open the safe.
2) Miners needing somewhere large to dump the ore they mine in mass-mining operations.
Ok, so the problems we face are really two issues:
A) Secure containers take more inside them then they take up.
B) Have way too many hits to survive.
I see the need for both uses above (1 and 2), and I think we can counter the problems of the containers:
A) Secure containers SHOULD take LESS inside them then normal containers. Lets be a little realistic now. The standard containers should offer increased space, the secure ones should offer reduced space at the price of security.
B) Its just practically invulnerable. Hell I wish I could buy a ship that cheap that took as many hits.
However, if you make the contents smaller, you then have a big impact on miners that have a need for something like this. How do we solve that one.
Ok this is probably more far-fetched then perhaps I would like, but its an idea:
Miners have a item they can deploy into space. A force-field like Dumping ground. It would basically need to be set up in space (takes time) and would basically expand to suit the quantity of ore deposited in it. This would get around the issue of the containers never being big enough to cater for large scale mining operations. Each miner would require one of these set up near them to which they could connect (like openning a container), and dump ore into.
It would have two connection points, one into which the miner can dump their ore, and one from which the industrial ship could collect the ore. Obviously, it would require some kind of password, but the system itself should be a little vulnerable to assault, say 2000 armor hits or something.
If someone attack this object of course, you would then be perfectly entitled to return fire, as perhaps its an item which has an ownership ID of the individual+gang+corp, so that any of those people could retaliate.
It would offer the miners a means to do what they want to, whilst also making the changes to secure containers that really should have been in place in the first place.
PS You might want to add Huge and Giant normal containers for traders that want that additional space, but of course comes at the cost of not being secure.
Any ideas/comments folks?
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Tagren
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Posted - 2003.09.01 10:05:00 -
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Ecchous. What i meant is that m0o could easier ship out alot of containers to gates and dump them there. So when people jump there the game locks for a momemnt while loading the cans. ANd under that time moo kill you.
This of course is not everybody would do. And why should the good guy suffer? But it would be good if a solution to this problem came first.
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Ecchus
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Posted - 2003.09.01 20:13:00 -
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I hadn't noticed m0o doing that and I run one of their blockades nearly daily. With stasis webs, warp scramblers, and good targetting skills they don't need to worry about an extra second or two to kill someone's ship, they can do it without any problems anyway.
As for long-winded guy, I think that idea is unnecessarily complicated. The reason I'm asking for Micro secure conainers is that it would be really nice to be able to cart around small but valuable things (BPs, mega, zyd) in a shuttle (which is what shuttles are intended for) without having to worry about losing them if you run into gate campers. As it stands, not too many people use shuttles for their intended purpose because of that vulnerability.
There have also been a number of requests that the superhighway system be limited to shuttle use only in order to stabilize regional markets. If this happens then a micro secure container becomes a necessity.
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Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee..
- Melville.
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Kilroy Kilgore
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Posted - 2003.09.02 05:50:00 -
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Now introduce a haking skill and some items needed for hacking and that could get interesting . I mean it would not be an easy skill to master. Take really high base abilities and require lvl 5 science, and in addition take more than 2 weeks for lvl 1 training so not everyone and there brother has the skill. Hmmmm make it a rare skill? Only used by negative or no more 1.0 sec rated characters, or even you take a sec hit when you hack something.
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Ruffles
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Posted - 2003.09.03 15:12:00 -
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What can I say, its the idea lab. You got the unlucky pick-of-the-draw that spawned an idea.
So I dumped it right out in there :)
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Othnark
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Posted - 2003.09.04 06:39:00 -
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Some of the most valuable things in the game are really small, it would be nice to have a can that would hold them and fit into a shuttle for fast deliveries.
Absolutely NO. This whole business of storing items in a secure container and delivering them so that you have no risk of losing the item is hogwash. Containers should not be able to be passworded and secure in your cargo hold.
-Othnark
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