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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.13 03:00:00 -
[1]
Dear pilots.
I have just finished doing the bpo lottery for a friend of mine, and I liked doing this, so I decieded to do another one, and if it catch on, I will make it a regular thing :D
There is a few changes compared to the last lottery:
There will be sold ONLY 250 tickets!
Last round there was a bit of confusion as some thought there would be sold only 200 tickets, well in this round ONLY/MAX/JUST/A TOTAL of 250 tickets will be sold :)
Also, this round a ticket will cost 10million.
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And there will be alot more prizes:
1st Prize: 1x battleship bpo of choice! 2nd Prize: 1x Battlecruiser bpo of choice! 3rd Prize: 1x Battlecruiser bpo of choice! 4th Prize: 1x Cruiser bpo of choice! 5th Prize: 1x Cruiser bpo of choice! 6th Prize: 1x Cruiser bpo of choice!
This totals about 1.9billion worth of bpo's
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And now, For the rules:
- 1 ticket cost 10million isk (10.000.000)
- MAX tickets is 10 per person (which equals 100million isk)
- Reply to this post once the isk is sent (This is bacause some1 have names that are typed in various ways, and its easy for me to just check the forum and compare the picture ingame to make sure its the right person)
IMPORTANT:
To Participate:
- Transfer your isk to "XTrans Lottery" (This is my alt and has been created for this purpose alone. SHE IS a member of X-Trans too)
As this alt has the sole purpose to keep record of the lottery tickets, I will only log her in once in a while to check status on ticket sales and send out confirmation mails.
If you do not recieve a mail within a day or two, please contact me. EVERYONE will recieve this mail atleast 12 hours before the draw
--------------- Tickets sold: 0 Participants: 0 ---------------
The draw will take place AS SOON as 250 tickets has been sold.
If it takes more than about a week to raise the tickets the isk will be refunded.
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References:
X-Trans Lottery 1: Link X-Trans Lottery 2: Link X-Trans Lottery 3: Link X-Trans Lottery 4: Link
X-Trans BPO lottery 1: Link
Transportation: Link (Current/Active post) Transportation: Link (Old) Transportation: Link (Older)
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CEO - X-Trans ---------- |

Chrisb6122
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Posted - 2006.02.13 03:06:00 -
[2]
What the hell 1 ticket, isk sent, _____
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Niaski Zalani
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Posted - 2006.02.13 03:37:00 -
[3]
Go Xinity! 
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Kai page
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Posted - 2006.02.13 10:38:00 -
[4]
Originally by: Chrisb6122 What the hell 1 ticket, isk sent,
One for me too, isk sent.
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Ethan Ardishapur
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:11:00 -
[5]
One please  |

Dr Brains
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:27:00 -
[6]
Edited by: Dr Brains on 13/02/2006 13:29:13 One ticket, isk sent.
BTW nice way to earn ISK - 2.5b income, 1.9b prices 
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Duncan Corlainn
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:56:00 -
[7]
One ticket, isk sent.
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John Bigboody
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Posted - 2006.02.13 14:17:00 -
[8]
The hell with the tickets....I want to put my money into something that is really going to make money. I want to invest in X-Trans!!
Oh what the heck....10 mill. on it's way.
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Iskender Kebab
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Posted - 2006.02.13 14:29:00 -
[9]
One ticket for me too, please. ISK on it's way.
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KineTiK
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Posted - 2006.02.13 14:32:00 -
[10]
Edited by: KineTiK on 13/02/2006 14:32:24 do those prizes include t2 bpo's?
i guess not..but cant hurt to ask :P
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Alvara
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Posted - 2006.02.13 19:00:00 -
[11]
Originally by: KineTiK Edited by: KineTiK on 13/02/2006 14:32:24 do those prizes include t2 bpo's?
i guess not..but cant hurt to ask :P
rofl How I wish.
I'll probably be sending a 100 mil again. 100 mil for 4% chance of winning something and <24% chance of at least getting something.
While writing this a question occured to me. After someone wins, do all their tickets get taken out of next prize drawing? Someone wins BS, their 10 tickets gets taken out, then the BC will be drawn for, etc.
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Netjeret
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Posted - 2006.02.13 19:47:00 -
[12]
If only because it sounds fun, and besides, you have a good reputation. I'll take one ticket (ISK sent). Good luck with the lottery.
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OVERL0RD
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Posted - 2006.02.13 19:52:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Alvara
Originally by: KineTiK Edited by: KineTiK on 13/02/2006 14:32:24 do those prizes include t2 bpo's?
i guess not..but cant hurt to ask :P
rofl How I wish.
I'll probably be sending a 100 mil again. 100 mil for 4% chance of winning something and <24% chance of at least getting something.
While writing this a question occured to me. After someone wins, do all their tickets get taken out of next prize drawing? Someone wins BS, their 10 tickets gets taken out, then the BC will be drawn for, etc.
the point of buying 10 tickets is u have 10 chances so if u win the bs u still got 9tickets remaining. thats the way i see it anyway.
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Alvara
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Posted - 2006.02.13 19:56:00 -
[14]
Originally by: OVERL0RD
Originally by: Alvara
Originally by: KineTiK Edited by: KineTiK on 13/02/2006 14:32:24 do those prizes include t2 bpo's?
i guess not..but cant hurt to ask :P
rofl How I wish.
I'll probably be sending a 100 mil again. 100 mil for 4% chance of winning something and <24% chance of at least getting something.
While writing this a question occured to me. After someone wins, do all their tickets get taken out of next prize drawing? Someone wins BS, their 10 tickets gets taken out, then the BC will be drawn for, etc.
the point of buying 10 tickets is u have 10 chances so if u win the bs u still got 9tickets remaining. thats the way i see it anyway.
It needs an official answer. Since if its your way, then its possible though unlikely one person could win everything. Which would **** most off who were involved. Anyways, better she say one way or another now, while it is still early.
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Vanderkell
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Posted - 2006.02.13 20:16:00 -
[15]
Put me down for 3 tickets - isk has been sent.
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Avalloc
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Posted - 2006.02.13 20:18:00 -
[16]
2 tickets, here.
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.13 20:41:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Alvara
Originally by: OVERL0RD
Originally by: Alvara
Originally by: KineTiK Edited by: KineTiK on 13/02/2006 14:32:24 do those prizes include t2 bpo's?
i guess not..but cant hurt to ask :P
rofl How I wish.
I'll probably be sending a 100 mil again. 100 mil for 4% chance of winning something and <24% chance of at least getting something.
While writing this a question occured to me. After someone wins, do all their tickets get taken out of next prize drawing? Someone wins BS, their 10 tickets gets taken out, then the BC will be drawn for, etc.
the point of buying 10 tickets is u have 10 chances so if u win the bs u still got 9tickets remaining. thats the way i see it anyway.
It needs an official answer. Since if its your way, then its possible though unlikely one person could win everything. Which would **** most off who were involved. Anyways, better she say one way or another now, while it is still early.
Yes, I've been thinking about this myself, and basicly how it goes is that if you win on one ticket you still have 9 tickets left, but though HIGHLY unlikely a person COULD win all prizes, which would be very bad in many ways (except from to the winner of course)
One solution could be that any one person can win MAX two prizes? though I doubt this will be the case its good to have it sorted out before hand.
What do you guys think about that? :) ----------
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Plutus
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:34:00 -
[18]
3 tickets, please. Isk + mail sent.
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sinnerman
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:41:00 -
[19]
1 ticket for me pls, nice lottery
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Little Cat
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:51:00 -
[20]
1 ticket isks send
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Guntork
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Posted - 2006.02.13 22:01:00 -
[21]
4 Tickets. Isk Sent
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:29:00 -
[22]
and with that one 10th of the tickets has been sold :)
222 tickets remaining ----------
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Grumpie
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:47:00 -
[23]
1 ticket, money sent ^^
can't help but try.
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Dragy
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Posted - 2006.02.14 06:08:00 -
[24]
10m isk has been transfered. 2/14/06 @ 0448 eve time, so 1 ticket ;)
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Kino Viscoio
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Posted - 2006.02.14 07:17:00 -
[25]
Two tickets please, 20m sent.
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.14 10:58:00 -
[26]
Edited by: Xinity on 14/02/2006 10:58:21 Confirmation has been sent, and at current rate of sales it will take about 7 days to sell all tickets, so pretty much going as planned atm :P
Thanks to all for buying tickets so far! Hopefully I will make 6 people very happy in about a week :D
And as for the question regarding winning multiple bpo's:
I'm setting a MAX limit of bpo's you can take home to two.
This means that if you have two tickets (or more) you stand the chance at winning two bpo's, and of course the more tickets you have, the bigger your chances are to actually win something. with ten tickets you have a 4% chance at winning the first prize, but also a 24% chance at actually winning something (unless my math is way of! Feel free to correctme if it is) ----------
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LordArgin
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Posted - 2006.02.14 10:59:00 -
[27]
1 ticket for me, isk have been transferred
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Delta2003
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Posted - 2006.02.14 12:27:00 -
[28]
5 tickets for me please isk sent
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Dragy
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:07:00 -
[29]
bump
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StringBean
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:13:00 -
[30]
3 tickets please :) isk sent
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SnakeWrangler
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:20:00 -
[31]
5 tickets please isk sent
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Vince2332
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Posted - 2006.02.14 18:32:00 -
[32]
5 ticktes please ISK sent
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Kretin
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Posted - 2006.02.14 18:34:00 -
[33]
5 Tickets Please...Isk sent
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Vivecca
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Posted - 2006.02.14 18:38:00 -
[34]
5 for me as well money sent
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franny
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Posted - 2006.02.14 18:59:00 -
[35]
1 ticket, isks sent ----------- /wtb Eris in a cage  Sorry, she's not for sale. You can get Imaran for free though - Wrangler can I at least get someone decent? Sure, I'll let you know when I find one - Wrangler |

G'eron
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Posted - 2006.02.14 19:06:00 -
[36]
2tickets for me...isk sent
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Carthahenia
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Posted - 2006.02.14 19:48:00 -
[37]
3 Tickets for me. Isk sent.
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Gavin Paradise
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Posted - 2006.02.14 20:32:00 -
[38]
I've never had much luck when it comes to the lottery. In fact, the most I ever won from a corner store scratch card was $10, and when it happened I almost crapped my pants. Anyway, I figure if I win this one... maybe luck is with me after all. If not... I guess I'm just not a lottery kinda guy.
10 tickets please... 100 million sent.
Good luck to everyone else as well. 
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.14 21:34:00 -
[39]
80 tickets have been sold now, which means there are 170 left. :P
Will send confirmation mail first thing in the morning ----------
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MalaMo
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Posted - 2006.02.14 21:58:00 -
[40]
What the hell. One ticket will send you evemail. ------------- Don't drink and drive, logon to EVE and fly. |

heruloka
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Posted - 2006.02.14 22:06:00 -
[41]
1 ticket plz money sent :)
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.15 05:06:00 -
[42]
Sending out confirmation mails :)
Still seems that sunday will be the day when all tickets have been sold :) ----------
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2006.02.15 07:27:00 -
[43]
may as well, 1 ticket isk sent.
Removed, inappropriate signature image - zhuge |

Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.15 15:20:00 -
[44]
Been a slow day for ticket sales today, hoping it won't stay that way :( ----------
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Rapidius
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Posted - 2006.02.15 16:20:00 -
[45]
Eeeeee go on then, 1 ticket isk sent. 
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Hohenheim OfLight
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Posted - 2006.02.15 17:12:00 -
[46]
Go on I will bite 1 ticket for me
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.15 23:35:00 -
[47]
*looks around the room* ----------
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Gavin Paradise
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Posted - 2006.02.16 05:03:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Xinity *looks around the room*
I wouldn't worry about it Xinity. I'm sure interest will pick up again shortly. You still have a full 3 days to hit your projected weekend deadline and the anticipation is half the fun anyway.
As for your question earlier about a cap on the number of prizes... I think most people would agree that regardless of how the lotto is being run, (random hat draw, computer program, whatever), a two-time winner should probably be ineligable for more prizes. In the unlikely event that 3 of their tickets turn out to be winners, the 3rd and all subseqent winning tickets should probably be discounted.
There's nothing worse than sitting at a blackjack table and watching the guy next to you draw 21 three times in a row and getting nothing but 7's and 8's.
Anyway, free bump. Keep buying people! It's attractions like this that add flava to our universe! 
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Maximus Nixon
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Posted - 2006.02.16 07:05:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Maximus Nixon on 16/02/2006 07:13:54 2 tickets please isk to be sent shortly
edited: isk sent
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d026
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Posted - 2006.02.16 08:29:00 -
[50]
6 tickets please - isk sent
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heruloka
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Posted - 2006.02.16 11:31:00 -
[51]
well i would have bought 2 more tickets but i got curious about courier missions and went to examine one and while i was trying to click view route my optical mouse had a hickup and it hit accept why dont they have a confirm box like they do on escrow ohh well consider this a free bump. i will be staying far from that courier mission tab for now on. 
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.16 18:44:00 -
[52]
Originally by: heruloka well i would have bought 2 more tickets but i got curious about courier missions and went to examine one and while i was trying to click view route my optical mouse had a hickup and it hit accept why dont they have a confirm box like they do on escrow ohh well consider this a free bump. i will be staying far from that courier mission tab for now on. 
Ouch! that sucks :( its not a mission you're able to complete?
@Gavin Paradise: Thanks, I hope sales will pick up a bit, but atm it looks kinda bad though, but you never do know.. ----------
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SamuraiJack
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Posted - 2006.02.16 19:12:00 -
[53]
1 ticket please. isk sent. =- I am that merry wanderer of the night? I am that giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life-and-limb, more like it. |

Zoln
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Posted - 2006.02.16 21:05:00 -
[54]
Hi I will have 1(one) Ticket plz Isk sent
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Blood Redd
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Posted - 2006.02.16 21:26:00 -
[55]
I ticket please
6/250 odds of winning something seems good to me.
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lamwen
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Posted - 2006.02.16 21:40:00 -
[56]
2 tickets ISk sent
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G Warrior
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Posted - 2006.02.16 22:40:00 -
[57]
hi i will have 1(one) isk send
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Dragy
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Posted - 2006.02.17 06:14:00 -
[58]
free bump :)
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Lizz Litebeer
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Posted - 2006.02.17 07:05:00 -
[59]
1 From me.
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Manne36
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Posted - 2006.02.17 10:12:00 -
[60]
1 ticket isk transferred
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Mannesalt
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Posted - 2006.02.17 10:12:00 -
[61]
1 ticket isk transferred
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Fort Nox
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Posted - 2006.02.17 10:55:00 -
[62]
2 tickets, please. Isk sent.
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chosen2
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Posted - 2006.02.17 11:13:00 -
[63]
put me up for 5 tickets aswel will sent isk after DT
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Delta2003
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Posted - 2006.02.17 11:18:00 -
[64]
total tickets sold so far?
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Abyss Cube
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Posted - 2006.02.17 12:38:00 -
[65]
4 tickets please. isk sent :)
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Aram Gishno
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Posted - 2006.02.17 13:33:00 -
[66]
1 ticked please, isk sent.
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zanxu
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Posted - 2006.02.17 14:44:00 -
[67]
2 for me...ISK sent.
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Smoothie
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Posted - 2006.02.17 16:12:00 -
[68]
1 ticket please isk sent
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.17 16:29:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Delta2003 total tickets sold so far?
113 tickets have been sold now.. will send out confirmation mails and update the original post as soon as I've eaten :D
137 tickets are left for sale now ----------
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DeadRow
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Posted - 2006.02.17 17:14:00 -
[70]
1 ticket isk sent
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Spaceman
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Posted - 2006.02.17 17:47:00 -
[71]
2 tickets isk sent
spaceman
'Eve, possibly as addictive as drink & drugs, only less understood, which could make it inherently more dangerous' |

Vince2332
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Posted - 2006.02.17 21:06:00 -
[72]
whats this doing down on page 3
Any updates on when the draw is likely to take place ?
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Credent
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Posted - 2006.02.18 02:04:00 -
[73]
Oh well.. i`m not a lucky person but... why not  Isk sent. ----------------------------------------
Look maa` i got a sig \o/ |

Akoudoulos
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Posted - 2006.02.18 02:33:00 -
[74]
2 for me, isk away
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.18 07:18:00 -
[75]
At the current rate of sales I'd guess the draw will take place around thursday next week, but then again, once there is few tickets left, it might speed up a bit..
I will not be able to log in until sunday night to update sales and send out confirmation mails. ----------
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poopsy nobottle
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Posted - 2006.02.18 08:41:00 -
[76]
Edited by: ****sy nobottle on 18/02/2006 08:42:40
*
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Calvoor
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Posted - 2006.02.18 08:44:00 -
[77]
10 tickets please isk sent
MMmmmmm Free Goo!! |

Gavin Paradise
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Posted - 2006.02.18 20:03:00 -
[78]
Page 5!?!? Gah!
Friendly bump. We're basically 1/2 way there guys. Get in on the decent odds while you still can! 
Please resize your signature graphic to be smaller than 400 pixels in width and less than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques ^^ My sig was Jacques'd! Obey the rules, people! |

errorist
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Posted - 2006.02.18 20:04:00 -
[79]
Free Bump
If something is hard going, its not worth doing |

heruloka
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Posted - 2006.02.19 03:43:00 -
[80]
free bump one more ticket for me :) isk sent
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Angelic Morbidity
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Posted - 2006.02.19 07:28:00 -
[81]
A friendly bump for a nice lottery. WIll get some tickets when I have figured out how many I can afford (if they aren't sold out by then).
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2006.02.19 07:46:00 -
[82]
What the hey, why not. Count me in for one ticket 
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pulse1976
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Posted - 2006.02.19 09:03:00 -
[83]
No.....stop......me.....from.....spending ......my.......isk!
10m sent cheers!
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Zoln
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Posted - 2006.02.19 22:44:00 -
[84]
Freindly Bump
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d026
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Posted - 2006.02.19 23:59:00 -
[85]
bumpage :D
hopefully tickets will sellout soon :D
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Z3r0n
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Posted - 2006.02.20 00:37:00 -
[86]
4 tickets ! Isk sent.
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Gavin Paradise
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Posted - 2006.02.20 06:55:00 -
[87]
Friendly bump for the X-Trans Lotto.
Looks like 116 tickets left to me, which would make it over 1/2 sold-out.
/emote rubs his hands in anticipation. 
Please resize your signature graphic to be smaller than 400 pixels in width and less than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques ^^ My sig was Jacques'd! Obey the rules, people! |

Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.20 07:34:00 -
[88]
Thank you all for the bumps, I really appreciate it :D
And there is now 108 tickets left for sale, so the end is closing in. :D
I will be ingame a little later today to send out the confirmation mails, got home very late last night, so I couldn't get around to it then.
Also: I will be doing the draw in real time the following day after the last ticket has been sold.
Channel you must join is: "X-Trans" feel free to drop in whenever you like :) You'll always find me there when I'm online (though I'm very often afk. hazards of the profession I guess) ;) ----------
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.20 14:36:00 -
[89]
Confirmation mails sent.
Still time to get a chance at winning these fine bpo's :D ----------
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.20 19:07:00 -
[90]
no1 is interested anymore?  ----------
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Lonekiller
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Posted - 2006.02.20 19:56:00 -
[91]
2 tickets for me
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Zoln
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Posted - 2006.02.21 00:06:00 -
[92]
bumpy bump
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.22 13:21:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Zoln bumpy bump
Agreed :P
No1 else wants a shot at winning from a cruiser bpo to a battleship bpo?? ----------
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Agrilad
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Posted - 2006.02.22 17:16:00 -
[94]
my money is busy elsewhere. maybe this time next week, if its still going.
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Dragy
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Posted - 2006.02.22 18:15:00 -
[95]
c'mon guys, you can invest from 10mil to 100mil and win 1bil ! if you dont try you wont know ;)
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.22 20:12:00 -
[96]
Seems the ticket sales have come to a halt unfortunatly :(
What does everyone that have bought tickets feel about clsoing this down in say a day or so and cut away a the battlecruiser bpo's?
the bs bpo and the three cruiser bpo's should come to about what the tickets amount to. +- a few mill.
Or the bs bpo and a bc bpo maybe?
Let me know what you guys think :)
And for the record, its not to late to get a ticket :P ----------
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chosen2
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Posted - 2006.02.22 20:22:00 -
[97]
drop the cruiser bpo,s
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senz
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Posted - 2006.02.22 20:25:00 -
[98]
one ticket bought :)
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Gavin Paradise
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Posted - 2006.02.22 20:31:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Xinity Seems the ticket sales have come to a halt unfortunatly :(
What does everyone that have bought tickets feel about clsoing this down in say a day or so and cut away a the battlecruiser bpo's?
the bs bpo and the three cruiser bpo's should come to about what the tickets amount to. +- a few mill.
Or the bs bpo and a bc bpo maybe?
Let me know what you guys think :)
And for the record, its not to late to get a ticket :P
Well, if sales have indeed halted, my vote would be to simply terminate this lotto, refund ISK and start a new lotto right away that requires fewer tickets and perhaps has a smaller and more specific set of bpos up for grabs. "bpo of choice" doesn't make much sense considering that most people who are completing for the prizes will likely chose the most valuable bpo over others (unless they are industrialists looking for something specific).
I'm suggesting that by putting named bpos up for grabs, you'll know exactally how much the prizes will end up costing, which makes determining how many tickets you'll need to make it fair and still walk off with a decent profit a bit easier.
I don't think anyone here would be upset if they got their ISK back and could use it to buy tickets in a new, smaller lotto. I sure as Hell wouldn't. I'd just buy tickets in the new lotto and go on with my life.
Anyway, I'm good with whatever the majority of people want to do. 
Cheers,
Please resize your signature graphic to be smaller than 400 pixels in width and less than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques ^^ My sig was Jacques'd! Obey the rules, people! |

Zuquar Bonaparte
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Posted - 2006.02.22 20:42:00 -
[100]
ill take 2 tickets
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Asor
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Posted - 2006.02.22 20:44:00 -
[101]
Rather than cancelling the lotto, you need to:
a) revise the rules in your original post (max.2 wins per ticket holder) b) name the items that will be won and approx. price (people like to see numbers...) c) reduce your margin by adding more prizes (by your own post, you admit that you are likely to make 500Mil+ from this one lotto - isn't this a bit greedy?). How about 30-40 winners get their entry money back? You're still getting a pretty sizeable profit... d) advertise, advertise, advertise
BTW, the max. 2 wins rule is a bit silly. After all, what is to stop one player from placing multiple 2-ticket bets for each alt? In a way, you are disadvantaging the honest multi-ticket buyers (and indirectly limiting your overall sales)...
Me and my multiple alts will be buying 10 tickets...
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Gavin Paradise
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Posted - 2006.02.22 20:58:00 -
[102]
^^ Good point. I actually considered buying 10 more tickets with an alt, thus increasing my chances to win two-fold, but that's just wrong. I also realized that these types of lottos require a good deal of trust in the lotto manager, since one of their alts could simply by 1 ticket and win the grand prize.
Fortunately, Xinity does have a great reputation. 
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.22 21:14:00 -
[103]
Well, two things are certain then...
1. max two wins rule is hereby canceled
and 2. As for the next lottery, less tickets and named prizes
Also, for this lottery:
if all tickets are sold and this thing go to the end, 15 tickets will be picked for a ticket refund ;) ----------
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heruloka
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Posted - 2006.02.23 03:03:00 -
[104]
well most of my isk is currently tiedup but in a day or so i may get one or two more tickets. btw if you take out some of the bpos please leave the bc bpo. 
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Vince2332
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Posted - 2006.02.23 09:43:00 -
[105]
Guess you picked a bad time for this, what with the forums being up and down for the last couple of days.
Hopefully now that things are improving the last few tickets will sell.
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Whitethorn
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Posted - 2006.02.23 12:46:00 -
[106]
I'll take a ticket |

RIPPER OFU
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Posted - 2006.02.23 13:10:00 -
[107]
how many tickets are left Xinity as i would like one if pos.. also when are you going to do the draw..
good luck to every one btw 
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.23 13:11:00 -
[108]
still about 100 tickets left... haven't updated in a while.
and the draw is once all tickets are sold. BUT if sales doesn't pick up in a day or two I'm cutting the draw short. ----------
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Adrastos Volos
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:53:00 -
[109]
bump for a good idea
I am thinking if I want to buy a ticket or not. 
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coolneo
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:21:00 -
[110]
1 ticket please. Isk sent . 
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Dragy
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Posted - 2006.02.23 18:32:00 -
[111]
bump, if you need to drop any of bpo's drop any you want but dont cut that bs bpo
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Gavin Paradise
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Posted - 2006.02.23 18:41:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Dragy bump, if you need to drop any of bpo's drop any you want but dont cut that bs bpo
I think that 2nd and 3rd prize are both battlecruiser bpos, so losing one of them in favor of getting the lotto over and done with is not something that sits bad with me. With little over (or under) 1 billion ISK worth of tickets left, at least one of the bcs might have to go.
Anyway, free bump. Keep buying tickets guys. That fat grand prize is still up for grabbies.
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.23 22:13:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Dragy bump, if you need to drop any of bpo's drop any you want but dont cut that bs bpo
The bs bpo will most definatly stay :D no question about that :D
Maybe the bs bpo, one bc and one cruiser? ----------
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ekkata
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Posted - 2006.02.24 05:02:00 -
[114]
I will take 1 ticket please.
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Khaerie
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Posted - 2006.02.24 05:10:00 -
[115]
1 please
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Tkotm
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Posted - 2006.02.24 09:10:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Asor
c) reduce your margin by adding more prizes (by your own post, you admit that you are likely to make 500Mil+ from this one lotto - isn't this a bit greedy?). How about 30-40 winners get their entry money back? You're still getting a pretty sizeable profit...
its why i wont take any ticket :/. This post doent help you to finish the lottery but at least take this like a Bump.
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.24 10:03:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Tkotm
Originally by: Asor
c) reduce your margin by adding more prizes (by your own post, you admit that you are likely to make 500Mil+ from this one lotto - isn't this a bit greedy?). How about 30-40 winners get their entry money back? You're still getting a pretty sizeable profit...
its why i wont take any ticket :/. This post doent help you to finish the lottery but at least take this like a Bump.
Yeah, I can understand that, but my question is really: "why?"
what I'm doing is offering a service, 99.5% of everything that goes on in eve is in one way or another related to increase one's wealth.
Just take my profit here, I send out confirmation mails for every person that buys a ticket, I log and I update and I keep track.. so far I've spent two weeks on this lottery, and that makes my profit 250mill/week for a small to modest amount of work.
Then you can compare it to t2 ship builders, they pay a little extra to get things delivered to them, set a build order, reply to mails, and make billions of profit on overpriced items. Just take the hulk for instance! dunno what the going price is now, but the last time I checked it was over 500mill. how much does this ship cost to make? I'm willing to bet less than 100mill (including the 30mill covetor they need) thats 400mill profit every day.
Oh and don't confuse this with talking down on overpriced items, I love that the market acctually work in a supply/demand manner :D
basicly what I'm saying, we all have goals, and we all have ways to make a profit. :)
Personnaly I'm trying to raise 21billions so that I'm able to buy all the skills needed to fly every ship in the game :)
and I'm really sorry that some might think that me making a profit on offering this service is a bad thing, but then again, I'm not forcing anyone to buy a ticket :D afterall, its you thats missing out on winning a 1billion bpo, not me  ----------
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Tkotm
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Posted - 2006.02.24 10:28:00 -
[118]
Im agree, we all have goals :).
Yes the market actually work in supply/demand. And yes the T2 Market is overpriced but only because BPO is limited and 'hard' to have.
For your lottery, its pretty hard to criticize, good organization, reactivy... And the best you are clear, you write in the first post how many isk you will win in this lottery.
But 600M for a 2.5B Auction is too much to my mind. Maybe add 1 or 2 prices, you will win less isk but probably end this lottery sooner (i will help and take 10 tickets in this case).
Still a good work here.
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coolneo
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Posted - 2006.02.24 10:47:00 -
[119]
can i have a confirmation email plz, 1 ticket bought yesterday ta
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.24 16:18:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Tkotm Im agree, we all have goals :).
Yes the market actually work in supply/demand. And yes the T2 Market is overpriced but only because BPO is limited and 'hard' to have.
For your lottery, its pretty hard to criticize, good organization, reactivy... And the best you are clear, you write in the first post how many isk you will win in this lottery.
But 600M for a 2.5B Auction is too much to my mind. Maybe add 1 or 2 prices, you will win less isk but probably end this lottery sooner (i will help and take 10 tickets in this case).
Still a good work here.
Thank you, and I know that a lottery is a diffrent thing compared to the t2 bpo's, but its also a little bit more work, though some owners put alot of work in their sales and all honor to them :D
And I do realise that I might have turned my profits up a little high, but as I am also against changeing rules after I start something (except from when it benefit my costumers) I'm hoping that the lottery will finish like it was planned.
I have added that 15 tickets will be picked and the isk for those tickets will be returned as another 15 small "prizes", and the next lottery will hold probably a bs bpo and some "ticket return prizes" and alot less tickets to be sold.
Originally by: coolneo can i have a confirmation email plz, 1 ticket bought yesterday ta
I will log in after a shower and dinner and send out confirmation mails. the 10-15 last tickets sold have not recieved one yet as I have been pretty busy the last few days. ----------
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Zuquar Bonaparte
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Posted - 2006.02.24 19:27:00 -
[121]
2 more for me pls --isk has been forwarded.
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Plutus
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Posted - 2006.02.24 20:11:00 -
[122]
Ill take 5 tickets
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Vanderkell
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Posted - 2006.02.24 20:15:00 -
[123]
2 more for me, please
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.24 22:37:00 -
[124]
Confirmation mails sent out. And to let everyone know what the possibileties are with the current prizes:
If you buy ten tickets, you can basicly (if you are extreeeeemly against all odds lucky) win ALL 6 prizes and on top of that with the new 15 tickets will get refunded prizes you can get all your tickets refunded  
Though I'm not even gonna begin calculating the chances for that to happend. 
Anyone thats good at math that wanna do that count? :D ----------
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Matar Seb
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Posted - 2006.02.25 01:21:00 -
[125]
Oh my god.
You, sir, are a genius.
250 tickets at 10M each = 2.5 billion.
Return BPO cost total: 1.9Billion
You can buy all the BPO's with the money from the round, and you profit like 300million at least.
You don't need a single skill point to make 300Million every time the auction goes around.
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Xion Dsurion
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Posted - 2006.02.25 01:35:00 -
[126]
Sign me up for 3 tickets, isk sent ^^
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Gavin Paradise
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Posted - 2006.02.25 04:47:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Matar Seb Oh my god.
You, sir, are a genius.
250 tickets at 10M each = 2.5 billion.
Return BPO cost total: 1.9Billion
You can buy all the BPO's with the money from the round, and you profit like 300million at least.
You don't need a single skill point to make 300Million every time the auction goes around.
Good point... but that's kinda the point. It's not like everyone else hasn't figured that out already. The point is that you get a shot at winning something major for a comparatively minor investment.
Casino's don't provide such services for free.
The state and regional lottos don't provide them for free either.
Honestly, I'd be more concerned about future lottos being rigged by the person running it. However, if something looks legit and you enjoy gambling, you've just gotta take your chances an go for it imo.
Anyway, free bump. I just want to know who's gonna win
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Billion Dollar
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Posted - 2006.02.25 06:14:00 -
[128]
sent isk for 1 ticket |

John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2006.02.25 06:59:00 -
[129]
1 ticket - isk sent
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.25 07:24:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Matar Seb Oh my god.
You, sir, are a genius.
250 tickets at 10M each = 2.5 billion.
Return BPO cost total: 1.9Billion
You can buy all the BPO's with the money from the round, and you profit like 300million at least.
You don't need a single skill point to make 300Million every time the auction goes around.
Well yeah, but skills aside, it took me over a year to build up the reputation I've recieved from the reference links you see at the bottom of the initial post, and still its hard to convince people that this is not rigged.
I mean, I've had much more isk on my hands and made perhaps 20millions from transporting it when I could make 3 billions stealing it.
On this I make a bigger profit and also in turn build my reputation as a honest person, so why would I rig the lottery? :) ----------
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d026
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Posted - 2006.02.25 08:19:00 -
[131]
how about you just make it 200 tickets. that way you only got 38 tickets left to sell which is reasonable. in return, cut one of the cruiser BPOs, it'll cut ur profit a bit, but it'll get this thing sorted. and next time, try just having 1BS bpo, and the others say, 110% moneyback (so the players gain a bit of isk) and only make it 150-180 tickets? that way thats
1.8bil worth of tickets 1bil bpo, 200mil or so in other prizes, your still making 500-600 mil. and it looks easier to manage.
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Vince2332
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Posted - 2006.02.25 11:05:00 -
[132]
Originally by: d026 how about you just make it 200 tickets. that way you only got 38 tickets left to sell which is reasonable. in return, cut one of the cruiser BPOs, it'll cut ur profit a bit, but it'll get this thing sorted. and next time, try just having 1BS bpo, and the others say, 110% moneyback (so the players gain a bit of isk) and only make it 150-180 tickets? that way thats
1.8bil worth of tickets 1bil bpo, 200mil or so in other prizes, your still making 500-600 mil. and it looks easier to manage.
but with the way it is now, even if you dont win the mega prize, at least you have a chance of winning something else nice :). It is fine the way it is.
Each lottery you do imroves your reputation, moer people are prepared to trust you. :)
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Skilo
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Posted - 2006.02.25 11:30:00 -
[133]
I take 1 ticket once DT ends 
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Zuquar Bonaparte
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Posted - 2006.02.25 12:18:00 -
[134]
what the heck.!! lets get this show on the road so we can get our prizes i have ships to build and need the bp,s ill take 5 more tickets pls, isk , zuq
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.25 13:13:00 -
[135]
Seems like the ticket sales are picking up a bit again, and 77 tickets are left now, so a draw with full range of prizes seems within grasp sometime mid next week possibly :D
I can't wait to give out those bpo's! :D
But I also wanna thanks everyone that have posted in my defence, but also the ones voicing your concerns. This lottery is in its initial stage, and there are flaws to be worked out and issues to be addressed :) Hopefully I can use all the information to make the next lottery a better one :D
And I'm glad that every comment made both positive and negative has been a constructive one, and not just talking crap.
I'm totaly open for constructive critisism as I belive it is a necessety to improve.
With that said, how soon can we get them last 77 tickets sold? :D:D ----------
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Tkotm
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Posted - 2006.02.25 15:20:00 -
[136]
I take 10 tickets :).
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.25 17:32:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Tkotm I take 10 tickets :).
Thanks :) glad you decided to buy tickets afterall :D ----------
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Lizz Litebeer
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Posted - 2006.02.25 21:50:00 -
[138]
Bump so tickets go faster :)
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EDawg
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Posted - 2006.02.25 22:40:00 -
[139]
4 Tickets Please  |

Asurmen
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Posted - 2006.02.25 23:02:00 -
[140]
2 tickets for me please, isk sent. 
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Corn Meal
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Posted - 2006.02.25 23:12:00 -
[141]
1 ticket please and a bump to see this through 
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TotensBurntCorpse
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Posted - 2006.02.26 00:16:00 -
[142]
5 tickets please
isks sent
good luck to everyone !!!!! TotensBurntCorpse Likes EVE, Starfleet Command Series, Earth & Beyond, Anything Battlefield, MOHAA, Call of Duty.
Dislikes Not much. |

Zuquar Bonaparte
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Posted - 2006.02.26 01:27:00 -
[143]
oh well let me have 1 more so now it should read 10 tickets. isk is
zuq
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Kretin
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Posted - 2006.02.26 07:30:00 -
[144]
5 more tickets for me please, bringing my total to 10 50 million isk sent
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heruloka
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Posted - 2006.02.26 09:36:00 -
[145]
well i would buy some more tickets but all isk i have is invested, idle isk is waited isk. enjoy the bump
and ohh yea buy tickets :) you know you want them
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.26 12:38:00 -
[146]
Under 50 tickets left now people :D
Will be in a little later to update the correct numbers ----------
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Tkotm
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Posted - 2006.02.26 16:29:00 -
[147]
and the confirmation mails will follow ?
I hope we will finish this lottery today ^^.
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Phil Beck
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Posted - 2006.02.26 17:26:00 -
[148]
2 Tickets pls ISK is sent Thx
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.26 21:21:00 -
[149]
I'm sorry for the late update today! I've been having network issues all day and have been unable to log on.
Confirmation mails have been sent out, and there are now only 46 tickets left :D I can see the end closing in fast! :D ----------
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Lizz Litebeer
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Posted - 2006.02.26 21:48:00 -
[150]
:OOO
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d026
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Posted - 2006.02.26 23:21:00 -
[151]
bumpage, glad the show is FINALLY on the road again
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Jin Entres
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Posted - 2006.02.27 00:15:00 -
[152]
ISK wired for one ticket.
*crosses fingers*
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Brain Basher
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Posted - 2006.02.27 01:50:00 -
[153]
Edited by: Brain Basher on 27/02/2006 01:52:46 Isk wired for 1 ticket 
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The Equinox
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Posted - 2006.02.27 03:19:00 -
[154]
1 for me too
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.27 16:19:00 -
[155]
Bump of the day :)
I will be in later tonight to send out confirmation mails to newly purchased tickets.
there are now 43 tickets left for sale ----------
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Danii
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Posted - 2006.02.27 16:31:00 -
[156]
1 ticket please (money wired)
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Damonian
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Posted - 2006.02.27 18:26:00 -
[157]
2 tickets :) isk sent
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Core Girl
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Posted - 2006.02.27 18:37:00 -
[158]
isk sent, 5 tickets please
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Glarion Garnier
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Posted - 2006.02.27 19:32:00 -
[159]
Isk sent 2 tickets thank you. 
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.27 22:15:00 -
[160]
33 tickets left now, and I just realised I have not posted much about how the draw takes place, so let me take a few moments to write a little about that:
As you all know, there are a few BPO's to be won and also a little cash to be refunded :D
Every ticket you buy have a chance at winning all of the bpo's. BUT if you have 1 ticket that win one of the bpo's, that ticket will be removed from the draw of the rest of the bpo's. So in short: You can only win one bpo PER ticket.
But if you have 10 tickets, you can run away with ALL bpo's if lady fortuna shines on your part of the galaxy on the eve of the draw ;)
Then you have the 15 tickets that will win a refund:
This draw is separate from the bpo draw, so if your ticket get refunded you can still win a bpo on that very same ticket.
So if lady fortuna is in love with you, you can actually win all bpo's AND get all 100million refunded! Though I wouldn't bet on that to happend 
Chances of that would be maybe one in a gazillion! If that good!
The draw will take place in the ingame channel "X-Trans" and the numbers will be picked by this randum number generator: Linkage ----------
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.28 07:17:00 -
[161]
Would be really great to sell out those 29 last tickets today ;) ----------
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Abyss Cube
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Posted - 2006.02.28 11:26:00 -
[162]
free bumpety bump
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Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2006.02.28 11:29:00 -
[163]
Count me in for a ticket. Isk will be sent as soon as DT is over --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |

Nacona
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Posted - 2006.02.28 13:22:00 -
[164]
Put me in for 2 tickets Plz :)
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Inqy
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Posted - 2006.02.28 13:36:00 -
[165]
If there are any left when I get home I will get some tickets lost 2 bs over the weekend so have some insurance lieing around.
BBL
Inqy
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:14:00 -
[166]
yeah. still 26 tickets left.
Last chance for this round is comming up! Don't miss out. :D ----------
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Red Dust
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:20:00 -
[167]
Meh, why not? I'll take 2, logging on and sending the ISK now.
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Plutus
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:15:00 -
[168]
2 more for me - then im at 10.
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Dragy
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Posted - 2006.02.28 21:32:00 -
[169]
bump :)
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Sarinat Talen
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Posted - 2006.02.28 21:43:00 -
[170]
ISK sent for 2 tickets
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Inqy
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Posted - 2006.02.28 22:18:00 -
[171]
10 tickets please isk sent
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Damonian
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Posted - 2006.02.28 22:18:00 -
[172]
wot the hell.... isk sent for 8 more tickets  
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Rabisque
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Posted - 2006.02.28 22:31:00 -
[173]
I'll take 5 please
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.02.28 22:49:00 -
[174]
All tickets have been sold, and the draw will take place tomorrow... Please check the first post for more info :) ----------
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d026
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Posted - 2006.03.01 09:30:00 -
[175]
ok to make this a bit clearer
step 1 - all the refunded tickets are drawn step 2 - the tickets will be drawn for the BPO's, starting with first prize, going down to 6th prize. (winners will NOT be announced at this stage) step 3 - the winners of the BPO's will be announced starting from 6th prize, going upto 1st prize (to add suspence RAWR)
hope this makes things a bit clearer
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Crane Soros
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Posted - 2006.03.01 10:47:00 -
[176]
d026 = Xinity ? 
Originally by: d026 ok to make this a bit clearer
step 1 - all the refunded tickets are drawn step 2 - the tickets will be drawn for the BPO's, starting with first prize, going down to 6th prize. (winners will NOT be announced at this stage) step 3 - the winners of the BPO's will be announced starting from 6th prize, going upto 1st prize (to add suspence RAWR)
hope this makes things a bit clearer
Originally by: d026 6 tickets please - isk sent
Originally by: d026 bumpage :D
hopefully tickets will sellout soon :D
Originally by: d026 bumpage, glad the show is FINALLY on the road again
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.03.01 11:38:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Crane Soros d026 = Xinity ? 
Originally by: d026 ok to make this a bit clearer
step 1 - all the refunded tickets are drawn step 2 - the tickets will be drawn for the BPO's, starting with first prize, going down to 6th prize. (winners will NOT be announced at this stage) step 3 - the winners of the BPO's will be announced starting from 6th prize, going upto 1st prize (to add suspence RAWR)
hope this makes things a bit clearer
Originally by: d026 6 tickets please - isk sent
Originally by: d026 bumpage :D
hopefully tickets will sellout soon :D
Originally by: d026 bumpage, glad the show is FINALLY on the road again
Don't forget dragy who just HAVE to be my other alt then ;) ----------
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.03.01 18:51:00 -
[178]
Originally by: d026 ok to make this a bit clearer
step 1 - all the refunded tickets are drawn step 2 - the tickets will be drawn for the BPO's, starting with first prize, going down to 6th prize. (winners will NOT be announced at this stage) step 3 - the winners of the BPO's will be announced starting from 6th prize, going upto 1st prize (to add suspence RAWR)
hope this makes things a bit clearer
Thanks for the clearing up :P
All tickets have been confirmed now, log was 100% correct and everything is set for the draw to take place as scheduled at 22.00 GMT tonight..
Feel free to drop in at "X-Trans" chat chan for a live update on the draw :D ----------
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Vince2332
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Posted - 2006.03.01 23:30:00 -
[179]
so who were the winners ?
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.03.01 23:37:00 -
[180]
winners announced now :)
Starting sending out mails now.
Congratulations to all winners :D ----------
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heruloka
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Posted - 2006.03.02 01:02:00 -
[181]
can you post a list of the winners here, so we can congratulate them. and what is the timeline on the next lottery? i got a little more isk to try my luck with
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.03.02 10:28:00 -
[182]
All winners are announced in the initial post :)
And the third lottery will begin later tonight. :P ----------
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Xinity
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Posted - 2006.03.03 15:14:00 -
[183]
Just a little update in case anybody is wondering:
I have to download the full eve install because the patch messed up my install :(
and cause some problems with the isp that leaves me on a crappy line it won't be finished downloaded untill tomorrow mid-day sometime. :(
I'm very sorry for the delay, and so that you know, the brutix, raven and thorax bpo has been bought, will set up escrows during tomorrow as soon as the download is complete :P
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Belle Aelin
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Posted - 2006.03.05 09:45:00 -
[184]
Escrow has been claimed.
Thank you very much and I'm looking forward into your next lottery 
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Glarion Garnier
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Posted - 2006.03.05 09:51:00 -
[185]
I just claimed my Brutix bpo .. Many thanks for the Gallentean god of luck for favoring me in this auction. And thanks for Xinity. Who knows I may bid again in your next auction.
G.G 
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Tkotm
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Posted - 2006.03.05 13:05:00 -
[186]
Same escrow of the cyclone BPO claimed :). And i will probably try again in the new lottery :) (maybe the BS bpo this time ^^) link : Linkage
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