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Exelsior
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Posted - 2006.02.13 17:42:00 -
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Hey,
A lot of people made mistakes as to the character they initially chose, their attributes (such as high charisma when you're a combat pilot) etc.
With the new asian bloodline (sexeh) coming out on singularity and sometime on tranquility, i feel tempted to start over, because i feel some people who start now, will in two years overtake my current SP if they train in the right fields that suit their SP.
I'm posting this more as a question and a discussion topic as to why this may or may not happen, but i would seriously welcome creating new characters and transfering skills from old ones to them, so that even two years on from the initial mistake, it's still not too late to fix your character to suit your profession. I feel that changing portraits and external looks just isn't enough, i seriously would pay money to make a skill points transfer to a new character.
Thoughts and ideas?
Would be especially nice to hear from someone in ISD or perhaps even a Dev as to the possibility of this ever hapening. 
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Exelsior
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Posted - 2006.02.13 18:34:00 -
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Oh, and say /signed if you agree that CCP should allow us to transfer skill points (and even security standing if you've worked your socks off to get it) to a new character with the upcoming release of the new bloodlines. 
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2006.02.13 19:22:00 -
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Nope, u made the choice, now live with it.
But what i would suggest is a 1 time option to change your chars race/name/face/attributes within a small time period from when u started to play (say within 2 weeks or something?). but never again after that.
Reason for this is that a lot of newbs have no idea what they are doing if they don't have a buddy in eve yet.
For me personally for instance, had i known i would have put more points in willpower instead of charisma, but oh well. 
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F'nog
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Posted - 2006.02.13 19:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Exelsior
Oh, and say /signed if you agree that CCP should allow us to transfer skill points (and even security standing if you've worked your socks off to get it) to a new character with the upcoming release of the new bloodlines.
Doing that is one of the quickest ways to get a thread locked. And since this has been debated to death many a time already, I doubt many would do it anyway.
Originally by: Bl4zer
But, cmon, this is the Eve forums, we don't let facts get in the way of pointless speculation.
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Korell Lumina
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Posted - 2006.02.13 20:01:00 -
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Bad Idea. You pays your money, you makes your choice.
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Sandler
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Posted - 2006.02.14 01:24:00 -
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Atributes and skills dont make the pilot. The guy (or gal) sitting behind the keyboard does.
And I dont support any kind of skill transfer or whatever. These posts remind me of when I go to the buffet. I can never decide if I want Fish or Steak...decisions decisions
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.02.14 03:12:00 -
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i also agree that nothing should be done with this.
you made your choice, at that time it was wise, now that you see the light, you can use that knowledge on your next char, but shouldnt be able to change the existing one.
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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Creslin
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Posted - 2006.02.14 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sandler
Atributes and skills dont make the pilot. The guy (or gal) sitting behind the keyboard does.
And I dont support any kind of skill transfer or whatever. These posts remind me of when I go to the buffet. I can never decide if I want Fish or Steak...decisions decisions
except in this case one of the two is rotten =/ i can sympathize with people who rolled a char with bad atribs.. it would be an entirely different situation if the atribs were actually balanced and equal =/
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Star Devil
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:02:00 -
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I must say i agree partially with Excelsior but not totally. I don't think that transfering skill points from one character to another would be acceptable. However if there were a facility in game, say for example an expensive medical procedure to allow the altering of initial attributes i would endorse that, it would allow players to re-balance their characters to better suit their needs although i would imagine it would be difficult to implement. It would also probably attract much critism from players who have more to gain from others not being able to correct their initial noob creation mistakes. Well that's my opinion for what it's worth.
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Ravenal
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Posted - 2006.02.15 12:00:00 -
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my fix is: add fight skills that depend on charisma.
add skills under leadership that are called "obey orders - [insert type of leadership skill]"
this boosts the effects of the gang leaders bonuses if you have it at high levels (obey without question your superior and you will do well)
that way charisma fighters have something to train for... mark you they still get the same bonuses from the gang leader without those skills as they did before. its just if you train theese skills... you make better use of your leaders abilities.
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Adjodlo
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Posted - 2006.02.16 06:28:00 -
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NO! Never!!! This is a horrible idea, sorry.
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Endevite
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Posted - 2006.02.16 06:42:00 -
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Here is why this would be WAY BAD.
Not that I can blame you for wanting to fix past mistakes, we all make them at some point in time.
But back to the why,
picture the guy who accuires 10 30mil sp characters, moves them to his main account one at a time, transfers SP, assigns it, dumps character, moves on to next.
Now we have a character who has just gained 300mil SP. 
So now you know why it wont happen. 
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.02.16 10:48:00 -
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maybe I'm misunderstanding something here... I am about to go to bed and all. but transferring your current self into a new current self that happens to be slightly different... would probably have very little concequence. I agree that being able to transfer SP fro one char and add it to another is definitely bad.
I mean it'd be more like... you pick your appearance, then have an option with cloning for on your next podding, it be a SPECIAL custom service where you get your whole current self cloned into a slightly different variation of yourself,...
limit it enough that you can't just switch back and forth for training from one extremely tailored attribute character to another.
a side question... for profile changes does it have to be same race, gender AND bloodline? I have at least 1 char(with sp) that I'd like to be able to switch (just appearance, I'm happy with the attributes and stuff) to one of the new bloodlines... and I think that would be a very cool option. (... and maybe a "no charge to do it once in the first week with bloodlines" thing too... or only a new clone or something)
but yeah, if it was too "avaliable" to change your base attributes you'd get too much "respeccing" around.
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Chribba
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Posted - 2006.02.17 10:29:00 -
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imo I think all the "wrong" choices I made initially is what makes me so uber  right now. Following the learn-o-matic spreadsheet simply ruins the game a bit, but hey this is just my personal thoughts.
But I am in favor for plastic surgery though, I'm ugly.
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AntiA VonMelen
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Posted - 2006.02.17 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Star Devil
However if there were a facility in game, say for example an expensive medical procedure to allow the altering of initial attributes i would endorse that, it would allow players to re-balance their characters to better suit their needs although i would imagine it would be difficult to implement.
I think this idea will be abused, cause the rich players would be able to alter thier atributes acording to what skill they are curently training. I doubt that will benifit anyone very much. And if you make it a once in a life time choice to change it, those playing commander will max those skills and then remove some points from charisma to whatever skill they feel necisary. My two cents
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.02.18 08:30:00 -
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I see no reason whatsoever CCP should not allow us to redo or starting points we distributed (the ones you could only use up to 3 on in a single skill) once.
I know I sure as hell would have 1-2 more perception right now(with the points coming from wil and int/mem) if the newbie guide had mentioned the fact there's 2 5-point attribute raising skills per attribute, AND a 10% to all attributes skill.
I'm pretty sure I'll end up making an achura though. As much as 3 charisma can/will suck, I tthinkI can live with that since I dont plan to invest heavily in social/leadership skills, and having 9 int/mem/wil/per to start with, if i wanted to be well-rounded, is going to be so damn nice.
Plus I can stay RPing a Caldari, which is always a plus, and my character's Avatar won't look like some lurch wannabe.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.02.18 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Endevite
Here is why this would be WAY BAD.
Not that I can blame you for wanting to fix past mistakes, we all make them at some point in time.
But back to the why,
picture the guy who accuires 10 30mil sp characters, moves them to his main account one at a time, transfers SP, assigns it, dumps character, moves on to next.
Now we have a character who has just gained 300mil SP.
So now you know why it wont happen.
I don't think you read his idea properly, since once you'd transfer some sps, the char wouldn't be new anymore, thus no more transferring.
Oh, and of those 10 30mil sp chars, how many sps do you think would overlap and cancel each other out?
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |
Neolith
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Posted - 2006.02.24 12:04:00 -
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only thing u can do with ur "bad" char is to sell it for ISK since it is legal, or use it as an alt. specialise in industry or somthing whith it while u raise a new UBER char. and well saying that, it is very temping since i never knew nethin bout EVE prior to starting to play and this is my very first char. but since i do not do a lotta PVP or not a real fanatic in that i can go on with a general char.
hope this helps anyone,
Neo.
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Rache Bartmoss
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Posted - 2006.02.24 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Creslin
Originally by: Sandler
Atributes and skills dont make the pilot. The guy (or gal) sitting behind the keyboard does.
And I dont support any kind of skill transfer or whatever. These posts remind me of when I go to the buffet. I can never decide if I want Fish or Steak...decisions decisions
except in this case one of the two is rotten =/ i can sympathize with people who rolled a char with bad atribs.. it would be an entirely different situation if the atribs were actually balanced and equal =/
You didn't roll your attributed, you selected them... as many people have stated, a choice was made, and now you regret it.
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