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Psychotic Monk
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
1557
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Posted - 2013.11.09 23:06:00 -
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BU is an organization that does many flavours of evil deed, but the thing that is much less common than you might think among us is the good old fashioned suicide gank. We have a couple really solid suicide gankers, but itGÇÖs not something the average belligerent is into. So after I had to pass on a very expensive Mach gank because of lack of shooters, pillar of the community Perseus Parker mulled it around and hit on a solution.
IGÇÖd like to present you fine people of the internet with the mail that is about to stand up our suicide gank wing, headed by Perseus Parker, organized under the channel 'BU GankingGÇÖ. The intent is to have Tornado pilot available to hit expensive targets, plus the odd bit of ganks for fun in between.
GÇ£Hey guys,
Had a play around with some maths regarding dual character training and found something v. interesting. If you think itGÇÖs worthwhile, could be fun to encourage it as a BU training investment for future ganks seeing as we had limited availability getting nadoGÇÖs last time.
The maths all checks out on this as far as IGÇÖm aware, but double check to make sure:
Steps:
1) open new character (minmatar) on an already existing account and activate dual character training for 1 plex (~600mil investment)
2) immediately train cybernetics to III (no point in remapping for this, itGÇÖs 13.5 hours for standard attribute layout.
3) plug in basic +3 perception and willpower implants and remap to perception/willpower immediately
4) Train the following:
Min Frig III
Min Dessie III
Min Cruiser III
Min Battlecruiser I
Gunnery V
Medium Projectile III
Large Projectile I
Motion Prediciton III
Surgical Strike IV
Weapon Upgrades IV
Trajectory Analysis II
Long Range Targeting I
Power Grid Management IV
Large Projectile IV
The following alpha calculations are all assuming no implants on the following fit: Basic Nado 30d train
No further training: 9606 RF EMP (under 15d total training)
Training Surgical Strike V: 9864 RF EMP (just under 30d total training)
Training Large Projectile V: 10007 RF EMP (maybe just over 30d total training)
Traing both to V: 10275 RF EMP (would take two dual training plexes and youGÇÖd be better off investing in a new account for it)
Training Surgical Strike V will definitely fall within the 30 day training time frame, whereas Large Projectile V may require pausing training on a main to finish it off (2 day max lost training on main).
IGÇÖm proposing that these can be trained as an alt on every account and we can start ripping up some incursion bears who seem to think theyGÇÖre invincible.
TheyGÇÖre not ideal in terms of tracking/lock speed etc, but can be finished up with a few days of training sacrifice on a main character.
Let me know your thoughts, and if youGÇÖve got any questions give me a shout. Also made the channel GÇÿBU GankingGÇÖ if we want to organise this **** in the future. Can make it private if we want?
Toodles,
PerseusGÇ¥
So if you want in on this you can use the above plan for a 30d gank tornado or you can use an already skilled main. Hop into the channel GÇÿBU GankingGÇÖ and maybe drop a mail or a convo to Perseus Parker telling him that youGÇÖre in. Other gank ships are also totally usable, but the standard here is a Tornado.
For a reminder about some of the things that we will be able to murder, check out a post I made about this a while back:
http://belligerentundesirables.com/2013/04/29/some-math-regarding-suicide-ganking/
Also, as a side note, as it stands right now, using sec status tags you can keep a workable sec status for the low cost of 13m isk per gank.
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
12003
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Posted - 2013.11.10 19:52:00 -
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Why would you activate dual training on an existing account when you could get 51 days of free game time on a throwaway alt account and simultaneously gain 30 days on your main account for the same price: one PLEX. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1132
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:00:00 -
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I will definitely be in, assuming there is activity during my playtime (early AU TZ, weekdays 1-5 hours before daily downtime, more random on weekends). Should not take me long to train Sabriz and my second account character into tornadoes.
I also already have the Talos at just under max skills (Large Blaster Spec 3, all other gunnery throughput skills maxed and all application skills at 4 or 5), as well as the Thorax, Catalyst and other gank ships at good skills. |
Psychotic Monk
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
1560
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Posted - 2013.11.11 07:23:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Why would you activate dual training on an existing account when you could get 51 days of free game time on a throwaway alt account and simultaneously gain 30 days on your main account for the same price: one PLEX.
Because after that you don't have to spend another PLEX every month to keep in subbed. |
Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
489
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Posted - 2013.11.11 15:05:00 -
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Confirming. I'm in. Main can fit a T1 'nado, got an alt training up as well.
AUT5M - Active HiSec/WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Inquire within. 5mSP minimum, full API required. |
Sith1s Spectre
Sky Fighters
224
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Posted - 2013.11.12 07:06:00 -
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We'll be in Monk.
Feel free to drop me a line or stick a toon in our pub channel.
Regards,
Sith
Sky Fighters are now accepting WH Space Merc Contracts
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3737774#post3737774
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Samoth Egnoled
25432
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Posted - 2013.11.12 07:34:00 -
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I have a toon trained for it, I'd be in assuming we'll be splitting the loot fairly. |
Psychotic Monk
Exiter Corp
1561
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Posted - 2013.11.12 08:36:00 -
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Of course. I wouldn't do it any other way with my friends and peers.
Belligerent Undesirables
Selling Griefer Immunity |
Samoth Egnoled
25463
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Posted - 2013.11.12 09:13:00 -
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Excellent, I will join the channel when i get home from work. I will spread the word to those whom i feel would be interested. |
Reppyk
The Black Shell
489
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:41:00 -
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Nyan, 'got a few gank toons, nyan, including some 'nado love, ~nyan nyan~
The Space Kitty.
I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK.
-áI AM A LOWSEC GANKER, HIGHSEC SCUM, NULLSEC BASTARD, WORMHOLE INVADER.
Welcome to, welcome to, welcome to my scramble. GÖÑ |
Eranicus II
Auto-Pod Xpress
9
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:26:00 -
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OMFG, last night I was looking for this post.
There was a freighter with nice stuff in it, just sitting 14 k from the du annes gate for 3 hours and after asking all over for the gank channel I get to find it today 
Will join tonight after work, its time for me to profit from ganks 
Pods are great buuut no isk only grief.  |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Desperado-Enforcement LLC
19
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Posted - 2013.11.12 18:44:00 -
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This sounds interesting. I'll look into this once rubicon hits for the easy t2 large arties.
I hate to disagree with you,-ábut there is nothing subjective about "boring" in connection to "mining".
-á-á-á-á -- Solstice Project's Alt |
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
96
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:22:00 -
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Sith1s Spectre wrote:We'll be in Monk.
Sith
Whoa whoa whoa, let's not rush ahead here, I think we're obliged to buy him a drink first.
What a difference a comma makes...
P.S. Sorry Sith
P. P. S. I'll be in my Monk.
"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for."
-CCP Wrangler |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2257
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:10:00 -
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This is sick, you're sick. I can't believe CCP allows you psychopaths to get away with this, instead of banning you. This game is quickly becoming Detroit after midnight. I hope you're proud of ruining the only good space MMO, you scumbags.
I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |
Psychotic Monk
Exiter Corp
1561
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:12:00 -
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There are several good single player and consensual-pvp-only space games if you'd like. I'm told the X series and STO are both things that some subsets of people like.
Belligerent Undesirables
Selling Griefer Immunity |
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
97
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:17:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:This is sick, you're sick. I can't believe CCP allows you psychopaths to get away with this, instead of banning you. This game is quickly becoming Detroit after midnight. I hope you're proud of ruining the only good space MMO, you scumbags.
NO! NOT MY INTERNET SPACE PIXELS! You maniacs! You blew it all up!!
"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for."
-CCP Wrangler |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Desperado-Enforcement LLC
19
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:20:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:There are several good single player and consensual-pvp-only space games if you'd like. I'm told the X series and STO are both things that some subsets of people like.
Sto is a little dumbed down, but if she prefers her pilots in space games not abusing the invincibility clones provide, the x series seems like an excellent suggestion.
I hate to disagree with you,-ábut there is nothing subjective about "boring" in connection to "mining".
-á-á-á-á -- Solstice Project's Alt |
EXPLOZONE
Noise Tanks
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:46:00 -
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Excuse me, I live in Detroit and it isn't anywhere near as dangerous as you make it sound...
Ah who am I kidding, it's a wasteland, the perfect place for the Belligerent <3 |
Froggy Storm
Paxton Industries
Gentlemen's Agreement
116
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:54:00 -
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EXPLOZONE wrote:Excuse me, I live in Detroit and it isn't anywhere near as dangerous as you make it sound...
Ah who am I kidding, it's a wasteland, the perfect place for the Belligerent <3
Can we please call you Mr Whiskers. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1163
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:55:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:This is sick, you're sick. I can't believe CCP allows you psychopaths to get away with this, instead of banning you. This game is quickly becoming Detroit after midnight. I hope you're proud of ruining the only good space MMO, you scumbags.
I love comments like this from someone in a corp called "Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company".
Assassinating kittens, skinning them and turning them into gloves - OK
Inflicting a minor defeat on someone in a competitive game - OMG EVIL STOP IT CALL 911
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
The difference between an enemy and a friend is that you stab your enemies in the front. |
Psychotic Monk
Exiter Corp
1561
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Posted - 2013.11.13 02:31:00 -
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Destiny is a fantastic human being who goes back a long time in the profession.
Belligerent Undesirables
Selling Griefer Immunity |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2257
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Posted - 2013.11.13 02:40:00 -
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If you ever need a shooter let me know, Steam is probably the best way to get in touch with me.
The only caveat is, because I'm so lazy and unmotivated, to have a ship waiting for me, and then deduct whatever you want from the take for it. I'm fully maxed, 5% implants etc.
I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |
Psychotic Monk
Exiter Corp
1561
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Posted - 2013.11.13 03:09:00 -
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Glad to have you on board.
Belligerent Undesirables
Selling Griefer Immunity |
Psychotic Monk
Exiter Corp
1561
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Posted - 2013.11.13 03:12:00 -
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It's starting to look like we may actually benefit from me starting up BU Jabber. Thoughts on this?
Belligerent Undesirables
Selling Griefer Immunity |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2257
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Posted - 2013.11.13 03:20:00 -
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What's a jabber?
I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |
Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
570
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Posted - 2013.11.13 04:05:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:The only caveat is, because I'm so lazy and unmotivated, to have a ship waiting for me... "You have my axe. By the way, can someone lend me an axe?" |
Samoth Egnoled
25678
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Posted - 2013.11.13 07:36:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:It's starting to look like we may actually benefit from me starting up BU Jabber. Thoughts on this?
Oh dear, It's like 0.0 all over again! How I loathe jabber...
However, i can kinda see the point in it. I'd use it.
Sam
Ego Sum Mortem Incarnatum - I Am Death Incarnate |
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
98
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:48:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:The only caveat is, because I'm so lazy and unmotivated, to have a ship waiting for me... "You have my axe. By the way, can someone lend me an axe?"
Why do I even bother drinking hot beverages anymore?
"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for."
-CCP Wrangler |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Desperado-Enforcement LLC
26
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:12:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:It's starting to look like we may actually benefit from me starting up BU Jabber. Thoughts on this?
Well my productivity at work might drop, but this sounds like a fabulous idea.
I hate to disagree with you,-ábut there is nothing subjective about "boring" in connection to "mining".
-á-á-á-á -- Solstice Project's Alt |
Dr Smashface
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:26:00 -
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I will lend my own nado gank alt to this. That's all he does anyway, and he is quite good at it. |
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