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Kalar Vrask
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Posted - 2003.09.07 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: Kalar Vrask on 07/09/2003 11:36:51 Got:-
Learning, Spatial Awareness, Analytical Mind, Instant Recall, Iron Will, Gunnery, Drones, Industry, Mining
After:-
Missiles, Navigation, Empathy, Spaceship Command, Engineering, Electronics (no particular order)
Cleared 4 mill skillpoints last Friday (woot )
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Algazara
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Posted - 2003.09.09 02:39:00 -
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My Lvl 5 are
Charisma lvl 5 Leadership lvl 5 caldari indy lvl 5 caldari frigate lvl 5 gallante frigate lvl 5 small energy lvl 5 and ethic realations lvl 5
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Algazara
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Posted - 2003.09.09 02:41:00 -
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ah forgot lvl 5 rockets too
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.09.09 08:42:00 -
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I got:
- Corp management level 5 - Drones - Electronics - Gunnery - Rapid firing - Sharp shooter - Weapon upgrades - Iron will - Learning - Spatial awareness
at level 5 __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.09 08:42:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Kalar Vrask on 07/09/2003 11:36:51 Got:-
Learning, Spatial Awareness, Analytical Mind, Instant Recall, Iron Will, Gunnery, Drones, Industry, Mining
After:-
Missiles, Navigation, Empathy, Spaceship Command, Engineering, Electronics (no particular order)
Cleared 4 mill skillpoints last Friday (woot )
Too bad that 2.3 mil of them are level 5 skills. 
I'll finish Missile launcher operation 5 in a few hours. 
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Flaming Bess
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Posted - 2003.09.09 08:49:00 -
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Engineering
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Cyra
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Posted - 2003.09.09 10:29:00 -
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Lv5 Skills
Drones Mining Refining Refining Efficiency Learning Iron Will Analytical Mind Instant Recall Spatial Awareness
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VAPouR
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Posted - 2003.09.09 12:47:00 -
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VAP's Evil level 5 skills... Started with:
Gunnery level 5 Drone level - 5 Mining level - 5 Refining level - 5 Learning level - 5
and about 50 skills at level 4 I'm a roid killer with guns
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Serina Verity
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Posted - 2003.09.09 12:56:00 -
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Mine are:
Spatial awareness. Refining Refining efficiency. Drones (10 min away - changed to something else as I had to log off!)
Currently working up Missile Launcher Ops to level 5.
Pretty much everything else I have is level 4, with 5 or so level 3's and one or two at a level below that.
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Shemaul
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Posted - 2003.09.09 15:14:00 -
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I just think there are some "Rank 1" skill that are useful at lvl 5. To train a lvl 5 a rank1 skill, it need to 5 to 8 days (it depends about your learning skill). I just think they could be trained in case of Navigation (a 5% more in speed), Gunnery, Engineering, Elecrtonisc, even Shield Op...
It's your choice, but to train my surgical strike at lvl 4 was a big journey, and somethjing like speed, capacitor, shield, and so on worth the time it buys...
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Calvin
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Posted - 2003.09.09 20:11:00 -
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Greetings,
Woofh, level 5 skills, love to hate them (-: takes like a week to train, if not longer, but they look great on your resume .
I went a littile learning nuts with mine, 4/6 of them are level 5, with the other 2 being level 4 and 3, gonna work on that...
Learning 5 Analytical Mind 5 Instant Recall 5 Spatial Awareness 5 Mining 5 Drones 5 Refining 5 Electronics 5 Mechanic 5 (no really)
the learning skills are nice, though most people are right in that it's not time-efficent to go above level 4, but i'm nuts so 
The rest of these aren't too tough to figure out from an obsessed miners perspective , Mining 5, just in case for deep-core mining, plus the extra 5% is nice for commons mining, Refining 5, for efficency (which is at 4 btw), Drones 5, for interfacing, Electronics 5, so i can fit 5 mining lasers and a MWD on my Thorax without having to fill all my low slots with co-processors (btw D'oh on the patch going to nerf them, but it's about damn time anyway). and lastly Mechanic 5... well, supposedly that's one of the prerequisites for anchoring, plus the extra structure is cool too
As for what's next, phew, good question... Science 5 mabey, or Iron Will, ah well, it depends on what the new patch screws up for us, ooh, and how cool cloaking is.
Calvin De'Sannar |

LitLBunnyFooFoo
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Posted - 2003.09.10 17:34:00 -
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Regarding learning lvl5 increase, I can tell u it was worth it. Now without giving to much away I'm a newb, yet I am learning this game quick. The fastest lesson u learn is if u run into any game problems, getting help from the people we pay to help solve our problems is, in a word... A WASTE OF FREAKEN TIME! Okay, so that was five words, but that is the highest lvl of learning u will ever need if u run into trouble with this game... 
Now back to the learning lvl5. It is worth it, plain and simple. If u stopped ur learning lvl at 3 or 4, kick urself in the tail and start lvl5 today.
Let me give u an example.
To train Cald lvl4 frig with lvl4 learning it was going to take 4days 17hours. After I reached lvl5 learning it dropped it down to 3days 10 hours. To me, thatĘs a huge decrease in time... To some it might not seem that big of a deal seeing how u could have increased several other skills to at least lvl2 and some to lvl3. Yet when u cross the lvl3 threshold and head towards lvl4 or 5 without increasing your learning level and spending several extra days training to reach those lvls. I will be learning several more lvl4 and lvl5, while your still there *****ing about how it takes 40+ days to get to lvl5.
Increase ur learning lvl, its the best 8days u'll spend, cuz in the long run it will take weeks and months of wait time off the other skills u will need in the future.
(BTW, about the tech support staff for ccp, even though their system sucks, and I mean bad... They will eventually get to, and they apologize... However, the best people to talk to if u ever run into any issue is other players. Not to mention check out all the player websites, they are full of helpful information.)
LVL UP PUNK!
Until Next Time...
LitLBunnyFooFoo
Yeah I'm hopping through the universe, what of it?
The Bunny is the most Fearsome animal in all the Universe... FEAR DA BUNNY! |

Maggot
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Posted - 2003.09.10 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: Maggot on 10/09/2003 17:47:38 There are some threads that debate the merits of lv5 learning skills here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=20010 and here.. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=10530&page=1
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Jideo
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Posted - 2003.09.10 20:11:00 -
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LitLBunnyFooFoo,
Your example does not add up. Learning from 4 to 5 yields a 2% savings in training time. Your training time dropped from 113 hrs to 82 hrs. Something is not right.
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orionbeta
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Posted - 2003.09.13 21:59:00 -
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Drones Mining Refining Analytical Mind Empathy Instant Recall Iron Will Learning Spatial Awareness
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Silinary
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Posted - 2003.09.14 03:25:00 -
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Drones Refining Industry Production Efficiency Mass production
Next on the lists: Refining efficiency Science Mining Astrogeology
Many lvl 4's too... starship command, gallentee frigate, gallentee cruiser, all learning skills except charisma, enginnering, electronics, drone interfacing, mining, science, refining efficiency, astrogeology, labratory management, metallurgy, and more...
You can do anything you set your mind to. |

Barbicane
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Posted - 2003.09.14 12:34:00 -
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Edited by: Barbicane on 14/09/2003 12:39:43 Ok, here is my somewhat limited list of lvl5:s
- Instant Recall - Navigation - Gallente Industrial (~1M of my ~3.2M skill points)
Analytical Mind will be next. I won't be bothering with bringing the other learning skills to lvl 5.
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Barbicane
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Posted - 2003.09.14 12:49:00 -
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Edited by: Barbicane on 14/09/2003 12:50:55 I've made a summary of peoples' lvl5 skill choices. Including skills they are currently training. Here is the top-15 list:
- Learning (17)
- Drones (17)
- Spatial Awareness (15)
- Gunnery (15)
- Instant Recall (13)
- Analytical Mind (12)
- Refining (11)
- Iron Will (9)
- Mining (8)
- Engineering (6)
- Navigation (6)
- Missile Launcher Op. (6)
- Electronics (5)
- Science (5)
- Empathy (5)
The number in parenthesis after each skill is the number of people in this thread who stated they had trained or were training that skill to lvl 5.
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Geena Ice
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Posted - 2003.09.14 13:32:00 -
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Edited by: Geena Ice on 14/09/2003 13:41:09
Quote: LitLBunnyFooFoo,
Your example does not add up. Learning from 4 to 5 yields a 2% savings in training time. Your training time dropped from 113 hrs to 82 hrs. Something is not right.
No, no ... not the skill "Learning" ... the other learning skills like "Analytical Mind" and "Instant Recall" ... these have a much larger impact on learning time than the Learning skill, although they only work on skills which depend on the attribute they affect.
At least, that is what I am betting the original poster was referring to. I hope. It wasn't very clear.
I had a Memory attribute of 4, every point into Instant Recall naturally makes a huge difference in the time required to learn the few Memory-related skills I want ...
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Varia
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Posted - 2003.09.15 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: Varia on 15/09/2003 10:41:59 Skills I currently have at 5 are:
Astrogeology Drones Gunnery Mining Refining
With 18 other skills currently at 4 which I will train to 5 at some point (might take some time)
Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |

Kiroro Alaki
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Posted - 2003.09.16 14:35:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Kiroro Alaki on 14/12/2003 22:10:07
Drones Learning Gunnery Mining Refining Refinery Efficiency Missile Launcher op. Electronics Science Navigation

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Minuz1
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Posted - 2003.09.16 22:06:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Edited by: Minuz1 on 07/09/2003 00:00:33 Lvl 5's
-Instant recall -Spatial awareness -Analytical mind -Learning - Gallente Industrial 
Isn't hauling boring enough? And you train a skill so that you'll ALWAYS be hauling during mining ops. Doh.
Yes....but on the other hand...I might be a corperate spy that uses the cargo hold to haul all the stuff from other ppl's hangars with my other account :P ....If I have another account that is. :)
-Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat!!!!! |

Condemner
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Posted - 2003.09.17 02:05:00 -
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learning spatial awareness analytical mind gunnery small hybrid turret med proj turet med hybrid turret med laser turret drones engineering electronics surgical strike missile launcher operation acceleration control rapid firing
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2003.09.18 23:46:00 -
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Edited by: Miri Tirzan on 08/10/2003 01:04:45 Edited by: Miri Tirzan on 08/10/2003 01:03:39 1. Drones 2. Gunnery 3. Refining 4. Mining 5. Learning 6. Analytical Mind 7. Spatial Awarness 8. Instant Recall 9. Navigation 10.Science 11.Warp Drive Operations
next are
Iron Will (4) Spaceship Command (4)
svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
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Estios
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Posted - 2003.09.19 08:36:00 -
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All of them ....honest guv
Well actually Gunnery , Missle Launcher, Small Proj and Minmatar Frigate (going Elite).
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2003.09.19 18:31:00 -
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Gunnery Missles Drones Engineering
hmm basically only stuff I needed for as prequisite cept for Engineering
The Chronicles of Xanadu |

Xander Teg
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Posted - 2003.09.20 17:16:00 -
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Edited by: Xander Teg on 25/10/2003 00:47:57 Learning Iron Will Analytical Mind Instant Recall Spacial Awareness Gunnery Engineering
Next up:
Missile Launcher Operations Energy Systems Management
_________________ "For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack."
-Rudyard Kipling
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Madcap Magician
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Posted - 2003.09.21 21:55:00 -
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Missile Launcher Ops Drones Mining Learning Engineering Electronics Refining
And still going. . . spatial awareness.
Good times will always be remembered. Sleep well, old friends. |

Claus
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Posted - 2003.09.22 11:45:00 -
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Edited by: Claus on 27/09/2003 10:55:58 Drones Electronics Gunnery Learning Mining Missile Launcher Operation Refining
------------- You have to go out of your mind from time to time to stay sane. |

dewtauk
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Posted - 2003.09.23 03:43:00 -
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I have multiple accounts so i'll do quantity Refining x1 Refining Eff x1 Product Eff x1 Learning x3 Instant Recall x3 Analytical Mind x3 Engineering x1 Gunnery x1 Gallente Indy x1 Navigation x1 Drones x1 Missile Lau x1 Acceleration Control x1 Shield Oper x1 Energy Opera x2
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