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Brutor Shaun	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:40:00 - [1] As the title says, just a suggestion, but make them hi/med slot modules. At the end of the day scramblers should fall into the same catagory as Nos. They're a weapon. Weapons use hi slots. Stabs are defense (like shields) so they should go to a med slot. Bring on the camper flames.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:42:00 - [2] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 14/02/2006 22:42:35 Originally by: Brutor Shaun As the title says, just a suggestion, but make them hi/med slot modules. At the end of the day scramblers should fall into the same catagory as Nos. They're a weapon. Weapons use hi slots. Stabs are defense (like shields) so they should go to a med slot. Bring on the camper flames. This would be REALLY unbalancing. Imagine now people with sniper tempests and armageddons fitting 2 WCS in their two extra high slots. Now they'd be able to fit their usual two WCS without lowering their damage. So you'd get every single sniper out there with both full damage AND WCS. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is \| Jorauk was, but got hungry and left Everytime you turn down a duel, 1 unit of chicken appears on market -zhuge liang
Cummilla	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:42:00 - [3] What slot do I put the "stop blobbing the f3ck outta me" module in? As a pirate I have to know these things Especially since so many carebears get hard ons and are joined by an alarming number of my fellow pirates in calling for WCS to be nerfed.
Brutor Shaun	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:48:00 - [4] Originally by: Cummilla What slot do I put the "stop blobbing the f3ck outta me" module in? You can stick it in the slot where nothing else ever goes probably.. I don't mind sensible replies to suggestions, but "stop being a carebear" doesn't fall into that catagory. "Please don't nerf my scramblers or we'll have to camp in teams of 20 instead of 10!!"
Lorth	Posted - 2006.02.14 23:01:00 - [5] The problem is, the ships weren't made with this in mind at all. Take for example the apoc. That poor thing is rather done for if it has to use scramblers in its highs. It doesn't have a utility slot thus has to scarifice some damage in order to keep its target in place. Wether or not you think it should is irelivent, keep reading. Now we compare this to a tempest, he doesn't have to sacrifice much damage, hardely any when compared to the apoc in order to keep his target looked in place. As a matter of fact, the tempest could have 2 disruptures on and still be doing damage on par with the apoc that has none. Its just as bad for many outher ships. And the funny thing is, you would have the 'tackling' class of interceptors, being out done by the damage class (ie stilleto vs claw) when it comes to holding a target in place. The ishtar would very quickly become the OMG-UNBALANCED HAC of the day. Holly jeez, imagine the support craft the BB and Rook would soon become if you had a damage dealer beside them, jamming and scrambling for 6 points, who wouldn't want to fly with that? Further, jammers, damps, tracking disruptures, all fall under the same general skill tree. If your going to move scramblers to a high slot, might as well move these as well. They are everyway simular to scramblers, as they are an offensive mod, that doesn't do damage. Though your then going to have lots of trouble balancing the scorp, and well every other BS out there because of that. Quote: Stabs are defense (like shields) so they should go to a med slot. And armor? True its easier for most ships to free up a low slot rather then a low slot, not to mention most have more lows then mids, so I support this change. But high slot would be better IMO. There roughly an equal amount across all classes, not so with mids and lows. But then you run into a problem with ships that have a utility slot or two as well.
Ahop Yol	Posted - 2006.02.14 23:03:00 - [6] These threads are popping up FAR too often. Warp Scramblers and stabs are fine as they are. Can this topic PLEASE be locked / deleted; I'm fed up of reading this tripe every 5 minutes.
Cmdr Sy	Posted - 2006.02.14 23:03:00 - [7] EW belongs on mid-slots. EW is a weapon, but one that causes no damage, merely degrades the target's performance. Nosferatus are arguably a high energy weapon, and belong on high slots, although their effect is similar to mid-slot EW. WCS are a propulsion subsystem, so belong on lows, or some could argue mids. There is no reason to change anything, because nothing is broken. Unless you want sentry-tanking multi-scrambler Scorps on every low-sec gate.
sallyr	Posted - 2006.02.14 23:17:00 - [8] Originally by: Lorth free up a low slot rather then a low slot, . mahaha u made a small mistake . . .noob neway i say leave it as it is. frankly these things have been fine up till now, why screw with it? heck i think im guna fly around with 7 stabs on just for fun now :D (\_/) (O.o) (> <)
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.02.14 23:19:00 - [9] suddenly, every raven in eve has 2 stabs. nice plan sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault
mirel yirrin	Posted - 2006.02.15 00:11:00 - [10] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 14/02/2006 22:42:35 Originally by: Brutor Shaun As the title says, just a suggestion, but make them hi/med slot modules. At the end of the day scramblers should fall into the same catagory as Nos. They're a weapon. Weapons use hi slots. Stabs are defense (like shields) so they should go to a med slot. Bring on the camper flames. This would be REALLY unbalancing. Imagine now people with sniper tempests and armageddons fitting 2 WCS in their two extra high slots. Now they'd be able to fit their usual two WCS without lowering their damage. So you'd get every single sniper out there with both full damage AND WCS. QFT. --------------------------------- Stop Spamming - Eshtir Violate my sig some more!
Ras Blumin	Posted - 2006.02.16 04:37:00 - [11] WCS in mids ftw imo. A dirty job - Released 2006.01.02
Wendat Huron	Posted - 2006.02.16 04:42:00 - [12] Make them percentage based depending on where they're fitted, high, medium or low.
Gonada	Posted - 2006.02.16 05:12:00 - [13] bring on the cmper flames ------------------------------- why is it that when people dont have the brains to figure out a solution they automatically want to change everything to suit them? first nos, now wcs, whats next? a carebear world where everyone attacks each other with nerf bats? dont laugh, thats what the new crowd want. -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
Fuujin	Posted - 2006.02.16 05:30:00 - [14] Why not just make them different tiers, ones for battleships, ones for cruisers and ones for frigates with different varying power and cpu usages. _______________ The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
Draig Coch	Posted - 2006.02.16 05:38:00 - [15] Why not just leave things as they are? Half these posts are just change for changes sake tbh, not needed, wanted or required, will cause more problems than help. "Work is the curse of the drinking classes"
Princess Beefcurtains	Posted - 2006.02.16 05:41:00 - [16] How about: Forget about WCS all together and make it so that all ships have +2/3 warp strength or something like that. However, when a weapon is fitted to the ship it loses its warp strength... That way it solves WCS in combat issue and still means that people who currently use WCS on indy ships/barges/unfitted ships for transporting etc dont get nerfed Click here to find weapons of mass destruction

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