The Mobile Tractor Unit only tractors wrecks, not jetcans.

Not true. You can use it exactly as Balian suggests.

The tractor logic will tractor anything that the game would allow the owner to tractor with the normal module.

And yes it keeps tractoring all day long even when full.

From another thread:



So the structure will tractor in all items the pilot would normally be able to tractor in (including jetcans). This could be a good/bad thing because there are plenty of times you wouldn't want a jet can pulled away from you (for example if it automatically tractors in a jetcan you just dropped, and you planned on filling it up first). I'm also guessing this will screw up any type of fleet history if you use this for tracking miners yield (which you shouldn't be doing anyways as its unreliable and easy to exploit).

So basically it will tractor in any jetcans when dropped by miners (bad) but will also tractor in any wrecks (good). If there was a way to not allow it to tractor in partial jetcans it would be great but the only way I can see this working is if your Orca pilot was not in your corp and miners could release rights to the jetcans (set them to blue instead of yellow) which could work; but chances are it will work similar to salvage drones which will only salvage wrecks you specifically own, and not blue wrecks unless you manually target/set them to salvage.

Mackinaws.

I'm surprised by Tau's reply - he is usually the fountain of all knowledge.

Even Skiffs have a big enough hold to cycle the jet can timer. This only really affects hulks, and just reinforces the notion that they are now crap.

I heard there is another structure which is like mobile personal station for players which is also tanky and allows refining on it so may refine to minerals and then haul them to the station or something...

Hulks are very far from crap, if used as fleet miners, which is what they are.

still crap. all the hassle isn't worth the minimal yield bonus.

Oh and for a nice note, currently Hedbergite is the most expensive ore at the current moment making 235 isk per m3.

MFW you can find large hedbergite anomalies in hisec.

http://i.imgur.com/Z81pY07.jpg

anyways, math time.

Hulks are a 15% bonus over Mackinaws. But this is a minor bonus due to the low income of mining anyways.

051.0% Venture ---- 8.5 m3/s (4.26 x2 Miner II)
100.0% : Procurer -16.7 m3/s
104.7% : Skiff ------- 17.5 m3/s
105.0% : Vexor ------17.55 m3/s (2.15 x5 Drones | 6.8 x4 Miner II)
106.0% : Rokh ------17.68 m3/s (2.21 x8)
109.0% : Retriever -18.22 m3/s (9.11 x2)
114.5% : Mackinaw 19.12 m3/s (9.56 x2)
120.0% : Covetor --- 20.04 m3/s (6.68 x3)
121.2% : Gnosis --- 20.25 m3/s (2.03 x5 Drones | 2.02 x5 Miner II)
128.4% : Carrier: --- 21.45 m3/s (1.43 x15 Drones)
132.4% : Hulk ------- 22.11 m3/s (7.37 x3)

Base T2 Boost (No Mindlink): +48.5%
Orca + T2 boost (No mindlink): +55.1%
Base T2 Boost (Mindlink): +59.9%
Orca + T2 boost (Mindlink): +70%
Rorqual + T2 Boost (No Mindlink): +73.7%
Rorqual + T2 Boost (Mindlink): +98.8%

Oh and for a nice note, currently Hedbergite is the most expensive ore at the current moment making 235 isk per m3.

seconds in an hour:
60*60=3600

isk per m3/s
3600*235=846,000

Mackinaw
846,000 * 19.12 = 16,175,520 isk/hour
Hulk
846,000 * 22.11 = 18,705,060 isk/hour

[quote=Lance Stratos][quote=Kate stark][quote=Lors Dornick][quote=Dorian Wylde]

minimal yield bonus for a lot more hassle.

What I'm more curious about is with the tractoring... they can pull off the same wreck/can

Example, Me mining, I drop a can and abandon, gets tractored in, gets withing range of a second tractor, gets tractored into that one, repeat until you reach a POS.

I know it would involve millions of tractors but I just want to know if the theory is possible :)
Imagine making a protective sphere of orbiting cans to protect me from getting bumped while mining :-p

100.0% : Procurer -16.7 m3/s

121.2% : Gnosis --- 20.25 m3/s (2.03 x5 Drones | 2.02 x5 Miner II)
128.4% : Carrier: --- 21.45 m3/s (1.43 x15 Drones)
132.4% : Hulk ------- 22.11 m3/s (7.37 x3)