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Shaithis Avargon State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.11.12 03:49:00 - [1] - Quote Hey, I was just wondering about this...why is there an "up" in space?? Is there some kind of unstated rule of engagement?
stoicfaux 3340	Posted - 2013.11.12 04:00:00 - [2] - Quote Shaithis Avargon wrote: Hey, I was just wondering about this...why is there an "up" in space?? Is there some kind of unstated rule of engagement? For the same reason submarines always face up. So unless something has gone terribly wrong, or some seaman is doing barrel rolls in a Seawolf attack sub again, ships in EVE will eventually right themselves.
Xearal Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 715	Posted - 2013.11.12 04:00:00 - [3] - Quote Because we're not flying spaceships in space, in fact, they are actually submarines underwater.
Garandras Black Aces Against ALL Authorities 29	Posted - 2013.11.12 04:11:00 - [4] - Quote Shaithis Avargon wrote: Hey, I was just wondering about this...why is there an "up" in space?? Is there some kind of unstated rule of engagement? They are up for the same reason that the plants/moons dont orbit It would just be too dam hard to do.. >_>
Shederov Blood Wrecketeers 557	Posted - 2013.11.12 04:37:00 - [5] - Quote The enemy's gate is down.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5138	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:21:00 - [6] - Quote The ships are just balls in space really, it doesn't matter much if they are upside down or tilted. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 3469	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:27:00 - [7] - Quote For some reason they are never right side up during weekends. I presume this is a glitch CCP needs to fix.
destiny2 Perkone Caldari State 252	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:36:00 - [8] - Quote We needs more Vertical ships, Myrmidon, and Naglfar need more like em
Evei Shard Shard Industries 241	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:36:00 - [9] - Quote Posting in a stealth "Executioner/malediction/crusader is upside down" thread. Profit favors the prepared
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5140	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:50:00 - [10] - Quote destiny2 wrote: We needs more Vertical ships, Myrmidon, and Naglfar need more like em make the revenant vertical, like a nighthawk sansha: the vertical faction There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013

Smohq Anmirorz State War Academy Caldari State 129	Posted - 2013.11.12 06:41:00 - [11] - Quote If you're left-handed, they're left-side up
Eurydia Vespasian Storm Hunters 4411	Posted - 2013.11.12 06:48:00 - [12] - Quote clearly you've never flown an imicus. they are wrong side...everywhere.
Good Apollo BS4 Pew Pew Scrubs The Silent One's 12	Posted - 2013.11.12 07:02:00 - [13] - Quote Just press C
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 1465	Posted - 2013.11.12 07:14:00 - [14] - Quote So orientation isn't a nauseating experience? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Samoth Egnoled 25423	Posted - 2013.11.12 07:15:00 - [15] - Quote I swear someone from CCP said that it was 'Eve physics' and they aren't the same laws that govern our universe. A.K.A Because shut up! Thats why!
Barkaial Starfinder Eixo do Mal 73	Posted - 2013.11.12 07:22:00 - [16] - Quote You need less thrusters on the ship if you design it in a way that it will fly mostly in a plane. Also, the ship interior has artificial gravity and crew (together with inertia dampeners to keep crew alive), so the ships kinda need something to be considered "up".
Debora Tsung The Investment Bankers Guild 596	Posted - 2013.11.12 08:32:00 - [17] - Quote Xearal wrote: Because we're not flying spaceships in space, in fact, they are actually submarines underwater. Space water, just to be clear. Stupidity should be a bannable offense. Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance.
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 2453	Posted - 2013.11.12 09:14:00 - [18] - Quote Please define up in space, where there is no gravity and thus no clear definition of down too. For all we know up = down... Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Erotica 1 Krypteia Operations CODE. 2369	Posted - 2013.11.12 09:20:00 - [19] - Quote Can you imagine if we had to account for yaw and stuff flying these things around, and disabled the autopilot feature? Some people wouldn't be able to handle it and unsub. And by "some people" I am mainly referring to everyone D400 blows up. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. -á11/11/13 -áNow Running for the Next CSM. -áVote for the Sandbox. -áVote for Erotica 1
Jove Death Jovian Vengeance 172	Posted - 2013.11.12 09:33:00 - [20] - Quote Shaithis Avargon wrote: Hey, I was just wondering about this...why is there an "up" in space?? Is there some kind of unstated rule of engagement? There is no up or down in space. When you go to dock the stations are actually upside down. Planets are at a 75 degree angle Oh wait hang on "gotta stop drinking beer" Its all in the brain mate Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek

Samillian Angry Mustellid 359	Posted - 2013.11.12 11:33:00 - [21] - Quote Because this is a game not reality. NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Zimmy Zeta Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 35783	Posted - 2013.11.12 12:11:00 - [22] - Quote Samoth Egnoled wrote: I swear someone from CCP said that it was 'Eve physics' and they aren't the same laws that govern our universe. A.K.A Because shut up! Thats why! Uh, yeah, well, whenever you notice something like that... a wizard did it. I'm just going to walk the Earth. You know, like Caine in Kung Fu: walk from place to place, meet people, get into adventures and die of autoerotic asphyxation in a sleazy Thai hotel room.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 37	Posted - 2013.11.12 12:44:00 - [23] - Quote Barkaial Starfinder wrote: You need less thrusters on the ship if you design it in a way that it will fly mostly in a plane. Also, the ship interior has artificial gravity and crew (together with inertia dampeners to keep crew alive), so the ships kinda need something to be considered "up". Btw, EVE ships have top speed limits because of the functionality of the inertia dampeners.. If there were no limits on top speeds the crew would die in every turn, and your ship would take damage on any contact. And I made all this up. "up" is relative to what you're standing on in your ship - presumably the "floor" [or ceiling]. but since toroidal fields are omnidirectional ... it all comes back to which way your ship is oriented and stuff.. or something.
Lilliana Stelles 944	Posted - 2013.11.12 13:10:00 - [24] - Quote Lore-wise, warp drives are physics breaking. They cause a natural resistance to movement; they like to stay in place. Once turned on, they can never be turned off without the ship exploding. The way they anchor themselves in space is what causes resistance, and keeps you from going infinitely fast. It's apparently also what keeps you from falling into planets without orbiting at ludicrous speeds. I like to assume that up is the same for all ships because they're all manufactured with their warp drives facing the same direction. Not a forum alt.-á
Seraph Essael Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 176	Posted - 2013.11.12 13:23:00 - [25] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: destiny2 wrote: We needs more Vertical ships, Myrmidon, and Naglfar need more like em make the revenant vertical, like a nighthawk sansha: the vertical faction Nighthawk vertical? I thought they were turning it into a Drake hull? Or are they changing that completely now? And in reply to the OP, coding. You try having a spaceship game as large as Eve with no coded "up". It would be hard to do... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Shederov Blood Wrecketeers 563	Posted - 2013.11.12 14:58:00 - [26] - Quote Seraph Essael wrote: Nighthawk vertical? Yeah, it was supposed to be Nightmare.
Nolen Cadmar Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations Surely You're Joking 19	Posted - 2013.11.12 15:04:00 - [27] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: So orientation isn't a nauseating experience? This. If I was flying around and ships were oriented all different ways, it'd probably make me nauseous. Fly Safe-á o7
Ayx Shewma 40	Posted - 2013.11.12 15:06:00 - [28] - Quote J'Poll wrote: Please define up in space, where there is no gravity and thus no clear definition of down too. For all we know up = down... No need, just look at your ship after you arrive somewhere. it will soon show you what's up.
Seraph Essael Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 180	Posted - 2013.11.12 15:20:00 - [29] - Quote Shederov Blood wrote: Seraph Essael wrote: Nighthawk vertical? Yeah, it was supposed to be Nightmare. Aaaah! My bad, probably should have realised tbh haha makes alot more sense now though J'Poll wrote: Please define up in space, where there is no gravity and thus no clear definition of down too. For all we know up = down... Up is relative to the person in question... So your statement here is slightly off... And by slightly I mean waaaay off EDIT: Dang someone beat me to it haha Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Seraph Essael Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 180	Posted - 2013.11.12 15:23:00 - [30] - Quote Double post. Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."

Zuai Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2013.11.12 16:29:00 - [31] - Quote Because you wouldn't want to have your ship the wrong side up
Caviar Liberta Moira. Villore Accords 212	Posted - 2013.11.12 16:35:00 - [32] - Quote 2 space faring civilizations meet in space. 1 from the top half of the galaxy with their ships oriented on the x galactic plane. The other from the bottom of the galaxy oriented 180 degrees in the opposite direction of the top galaxy ships. Who would be right when they said they others ship is upside down.
Khergit Deserters Crom's Angels 1899	Posted - 2013.11.12 16:39:00 - [33] - Quote Erotica 1 wrote: Can you imagine if we had to account for yaw and stuff flying these things around, and disabled the autopilot feature? Some people wouldn't be able to handle it and unsub. And by "some people" I am mainly referring to everyone D400 blows up. The old MMO Jumpgate was like that. Joysticking around in 0-grav was actually really fun. You'd rotate your ship and it would just keep going ahead sideways, on the same vector. You had to apply thrusters to change course, and turn around backwards and apply thrusters to brake. If you hung around a station very long, you'd see somebody crash into it and asplode in a failed docking attempt. Too bad that game died, and the sequel ended as vaporware too.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 3315	Posted - 2013.11.12 16:39:00 - [34] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: The ships are just balls in space really, it doesn't matter much if they are upside down or tilted. Or warping backwards like the elite t3 pilots of the past used to do I actually miss the days of watching a freighter come out of warp sideways, power slide into a gate and then bounce out 40km like it was made of India rubber. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Chandaris Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 480	Posted - 2013.11.12 16:58:00 - [35] - Quote Because EVE is not a simulator. things are gimball locked due to engine design. If you want a real space simulator, play Orbiter or Kerbal Space Program.
Jythier Smith WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence 105	Posted - 2013.11.12 17:03:00 - [36] - Quote I always liked Allegiance. You had side thrusters and rotation thrusters and you would need to rotate your ship prior to engagement to make sure you were going to turn the correct way, because some race's ships could go up and down quick and others could turn right or left quickly. Of course, that was all first person. A lot like what most people want EVE to be, except contained into hour-long games instead of persistent.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 38	Posted - 2013.11.12 17:36:00 - [37] - Quote Caviar Liberta wrote: 2 space faring civilizations meet in space. 1 from the top half of the galaxy with their ships oriented on the x galactic plane. The other from the bottom of the galaxy oriented 180 degrees in the opposite direction of the top galaxy ships. Who would be right when they said they others ship is upside down. The galactic core.
Dkeh Weis Frankenmouse Inc Frankenmouse 16	Posted - 2013.11.12 17:40:00 - [38] - Quote Because Magnets http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/hFAOXdXZ5TM/maxresdefault.jpg
Taal Khurin Happy Asteroid Ltd 69	Posted - 2013.11.12 17:44:00 - [39] - Quote I do love vertical ships and unusual designs (hence my love of minmatar) i also would like more of them.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Desperado-Enforcement LLC 19	Posted - 2013.11.12 17:57:00 - [40] - Quote Shederov Blood wrote: The enemy's gate is down. My first thought after reading the op was "someone saw ender's game recently". I hate to disagree with you,-ábut there is nothing subjective about "boring" in connection to "mining". -á-á-á-á -- Solstice Project's Alt

Karaburan Blueprint Haus Get Off My Lawn 5	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:07:00 - [41] - Quote Shaithis Avargon wrote: Hey, I was just wondering about this...why is there an "up" in space?? Is there some kind of unstated rule of engagement? Because if people were warping in and moving around all randoms like it would probobly make me dizzy, ugh. Motion sickness inducing video games are the worst. The tracking camera is bad enough. Who keeps turning that back on?
Ayx Shewma 41	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:54:00 - [42] - Quote Caviar Liberta wrote: 2 space faring civilizations meet in space. 1 from the top half of the galaxy with their ships oriented on the x galactic plane. The other from the bottom of the galaxy oriented 180 degrees in the opposite direction of the top galaxy ships. Who would be right when they said they others ship is upside down. the person with the bigger gun is always right.
To Be Me Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 38	Posted - 2013.11.12 20:37:00 - [43] - Quote The universe is flat, there is up and down and all around
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 7229	Posted - 2013.11.12 20:59:00 - [44] - Quote You see, this is fluid space. Both space and in the inside of the ships are filled with fluid. The capsule on the other hand, only seems like its filled with fluid, but in fact is filled with air. All pods are located near the top of the ship because [reasons], so therefore, the airbubbles float to the top and make the ship always face the same way. If you don't like that explanation, then the following reason should suffice: Its ***** magic. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?**
Jarod Garamonde Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 683	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:09:00 - [45] - Quote Shaithis Avargon wrote: Hey, I was just wondering about this...why is there an "up" in space?? Is there some kind of unstated rule of engagement? Our ships probably have a system that accounts for the gravitational pulls of every body in the current solarsystem and determines an arbitrary "up". You are over-thinking something that shouldn't be overthought. This is rocket science, afterall. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
Zelarrs Elkoth PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 81	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:55:00 - [46] - Quote Well we seem to be oriented around the plane of the ecliptic, defined by the way planets tend to orbit their star. Would still leave two possible "ups" but if whoever manages the gates chooses that when you warp in, you get a standardizing influence. Does seem a bit immersion breaking, as it doesn't seem logical that spacefarers would spend that much effort organizing a common up, but hey we are flying submarines anyway. Hardly the worst thing. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Commander, Head of Diplomacy, Recruiting Officer Contact on channel: "PIE Public" "I walk the razor's edge of embracing the future while protecting what we value of the past."
nivlac hita Valkyrie Professional Resources I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 1	Posted - 2013.11.13 00:09:00 - [47] - Quote Garandras wrote: Shaithis Avargon wrote: Hey, I was just wondering about this...why is there an "up" in space?? Is there some kind of unstated rule of engagement? They are up for the same reason that the plants/moons dont orbit It would just be too dam hard to do.. >_> planets definitely orbit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egJM3A0CAK8
Nivo Green Stac Enterprises 28	Posted - 2013.11.13 00:16:00 - [48] - Quote Shederov Blood wrote: The enemy's gate is down. Looks like someone went to go see a movie recently. ... Or read the book a long time ago, but more likely the movie to invoke a reference in recent memory.
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R. 225	Posted - 2013.11.13 00:18:00 - [49] - Quote Lilliana Stelles wrote: Lore-wise, warp drives are physics breaking. They cause a natural resistance to movement; they like to stay in place. Once turned on, they can never be turned off without the ship exploding. The way they anchor themselves in space is what causes resistance, and keeps you from going infinitely fast. It's apparently also what keeps you from falling into planets without orbiting at ludicrous speeds. I like to assume that up is the same for all ships because they're all manufactured with their warp drives facing the same direction. The correct answer, buried in the depths of GD swill. I am not an alt of Chribba.
Barkaial Starfinder Eixo do Mal 74	Posted - 2013.11.13 02:17:00 - [50] - Quote nivlac hita wrote: [quote=Garandras] planets definitely orbit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egJM3A0CAK8

Ellen Thrace State War Academy Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.11.13 05:05:00 - [51] - Quote OP, some ships are upside down. APOCALYPSE GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Gealbhan Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 474	Posted - 2013.11.13 05:08:00 - [52] - Quote I knew it! Distribution missions with boxes marked "This way up" were put in the game to troll us!
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5152	Posted - 2013.11.13 07:48:00 - [53] - Quote Ellen Thrace wrote: OP, some ships are upside down. APOCALYPSE Ooo snap, yeah nice. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013


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