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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:07:00 -
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Hey everyone- So I've been really excited for all of the SoE ships we're getting, and even more so for the BS, which is coming out in a point release a little after Rubicon hits.
So I was inspired, and drew up a picture of it- ignore the rambling text if you'd like, but I put a decent amount of work into this.
I actually took some inspiration from Sisi's placeholder model (the star destroyer-esque model) and incorporated it into the picture- I felt like it matched SoE's aesthetic well. Then I molded parts similar to the other SoE ships onto it and mixed it all together.
I also wrote some improvised stats up for it :
Hi- 7 Med- 6 Low- 8
Drone Bay: 475m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda) Drone Bandwidth: 125mbit/sec Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme)
Can fit covert ops cloak (like the others)
Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to armor resistance and armor repair amount per level.
Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to drone damage, hitpoints, optimal range and tracking speed per level
Yes, I aimed kind of high with some of the stats, but I think those are reasonable, for the most part, for a pirate BS.
Tell me what you think- I'd love for CCP to see this and use my drawing as its design 
Thanks for reading. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
908
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:11:00 -
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Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday? |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
80
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:12:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday? I said I was aiming high This is a somewhat OP base, stat-wise. I just wanted people to see my drawing  "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Karen Avioras
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
51
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:14:00 -
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I liked your drawing but I'm not so sure on the rest.. |

NezMonik
Void.Tech Catastrophic Uprising
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:14:00 -
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Fantastic Idea! There is one problem I see; there is no room to add in the necessary Drone Control Units to optimally use the drone bandwidth. Therefor to compensate I would recommend a fitting bonus for the DCU, thereby making it a reasonable cloaky/drone boat. Nothing to outrageous. |

Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
908
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:15:00 -
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Also, im pretty sure star destroyers are already done to death. |

Ueberlisk
The Hatchery Team Liquid
68
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:16:00 -
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looks like a suitable ship for the king. i would double the drone bandwidth and give it +5 extra drones(+1 per level from gallente). |

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
1061
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:16:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday?
I'm not sure where you're getting this kind of ridiculous attitude from. OP may have used a 5% bonus that no longer exists instead of a 4% bonus like he should have (and an active rep bonus that wouldn't go on the hull alongside a resist bonus) but other than that the proposed stats look roughly like a scaled-up version of the Stratios.
The drone bonuses might be a little excessive though.. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
80
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:16:00 -
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Karen Avioras wrote:I liked your drawing but I'm not so sure on the rest.. Well i just went with drones, primarily- and the gal BS bonus is identical to the Dominix. Also, it has 1 more slot than the Machariel total, so yeah, maybe take one off. But like I said, it's kind of an OP base stats idea. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
81
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:18:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Michael Harari wrote:Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday? I'm not sure where you're getting this kind of ridiculous attitude from. OP may have used a 5% bonus that no longer exists instead of a 4% bonus like he should have (and an active rep bonus that wouldn't go on the hull alongside a resist bonus) but other than that the proposed stats look roughly like a scaled-up version of the Stratios. The drone bonuses might be a little excessive though. Anyway, that Star Destroyer model is pretty meaningless since it's the same placeholder that every ship gets when it hasn't got a model of its own. The Dragoon had that exact same model during the development of Retribution. I see then, about the 5%- the Abaddon has a 4%.. that should be it.
But the Gallente BS bonus is identical to the Dominix's, actually  "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |
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Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
968
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:19:00 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Michael Harari wrote:Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday? I said I was aiming high  This is a somewhat OP base, stat-wise. I just wanted people to see my drawing 
With writing like that you should be a Doctor in RL my friend . Just a teasing comment, not trolling, but I really like that you put that much effort in and your drawing skills far exceed mine. This looks like an actual "draft concept" piece of art that I'm sure are done and similar to what they did for the new Char Selection Screen for Rubicon so you get a "Bloody good effort" from me for that alone.
As for the SoE Battleship...I think we should just let CCP push out the thread for feedback and then let them know what we think about their concept. They are in the best position to propose something in-line with all ships of all races and classes to make this not OP and if not then we can add our thoughts and hopefully it will be revised (see Marauder changes for Rubicon thread).
Like your enthusiasm though OP, and top marks for effort. Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up! |

Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
359
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:31:00 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:I see then, about the 5%- the Abaddon has a 4%.. that should be it. But the Gallente BS bonus is identical to the Dominix's, actually  I'm not sure where you see Dominix's bonus as 10% unless you live in a cave or in the past. http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-odyssey-1.1
Quote: Ship Balancing
The Dominix will have its bonus to drone tracking and optimal range reduced from 10% per level to 7.5% per level.
Also:
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Well i just went with drones, primarily- and the gal BS bonus is identical to the Dominix. Also, it has 1 more slot than the Machariel total, so yeah, maybe take one off. But like I said, it's kind of an OP base stats idea. General CCP policy is for drone boats to have 1 less slot than any gunship of their class. So make it -2. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
81
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:34:00 -
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Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:I see then, about the 5%- the Abaddon has a 4%.. that should be it. But the Gallente BS bonus is identical to the Dominix's, actually  I'm not sure where you see Dominix's bonus as 10% unless you live in a cave or in the past. http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-odyssey-1.1Quote: Ship Balancing
The Dominix will have its bonus to drone tracking and optimal range reduced from 10% per level to 7.5% per level.
Ah- whoops, I had searched "Doninix Stats" and was looking at this
But maybe a higher (if only slightly higher) bonus could work... after all, it's a Pirate Faction Battleship. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
360
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:41:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:and an active rep bonus that wouldn't go on the hull alongside a resist bonus armor res bonus with local rep power is ok because ... *cough*... Damnation. Local rep bonus can be normalized to standard 7.5% per level. Certainly you'll have ultimate PvE drone boat as the outcome, but that will allow to rebalance Rattlesnake (and a whole Guristas ships line) in a proper pirate-faction missile boat (there are none atm). Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
81
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:44:00 -
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Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:and an active rep bonus that wouldn't go on the hull alongside a resist bonus armor res bonus with local rep power is ok because ... *cough*... Damnation. Local rep bonus can be normalized to standard 7.5% per level. Certainly you'll have ultimate PvE drone boat as the outcome, but that will allow to rebalance Rattlesnake (and a whole Guristas ships line) in a proper pirate-faction missile boat (there are none atm). And then we'd finally get a Caldari-Minmatar line of ships I'm looking forward to the Pirate Ship rebalance- there will be plenty of people complaining A lot of good things could come of it, too, though. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
360
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:57:00 -
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@Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci you got domi bonus wrong. it should be (overall bonuses): Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus: 7.5% bonus to armor repairer effectiveness per level. 7.5% bonus to drone optimal range and tracking speed per level.
Amarr battleship bonus: 10% bonus to drone damage and hitpoints. 4% bonus to armor resistances per level.
Role bonus: 37.5% increased strength for scan probes.
Edit: swapped rep power bonus with drone damage one to match racial bonuses. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
81
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:00:00 -
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Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:@Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci you got domi bonus wrong. it should be (overall bonuses): Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus: 7.5% bonus to armor repairer effectiveness per level. 7.5% bonus to drone optimal range and tracking speed per level.
Amarr battleship bonus: 10% bonus to drone damage and hitpoints. 4% bonus to armor resistances per level.
Role bonus: 37.5% increased strength for scan probes.
Edit: swapped rep power bonus with drone damage one to match racial bonuses. Thanks- that's what I wanted I'll change that in the OP.
Or... maybe I'll mix it up a little  "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
180
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:13:00 -
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Oh look. Its an OP version of my idea. |

Bischopt
Arbitrary Repossession
369
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:22:00 -
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I'm pretty sure CCP will never use your exact stats. They'll come up with their own.
Nestor... It sounds like a little boy to me. It's slightly disturbing. |

Vypri
Pirate Code
1
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:15:00 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Michael Harari wrote:Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday? I said I was aiming high  This is a somewhat OP base, stat-wise. I just wanted people to see my drawing 
Looks like a Hurricane.....on roids. |
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
81
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:23:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:I'm pretty sure CCP will never use your exact stats. They'll come up with their own.
Nestor... It sounds like a little boy to me. It's slightly disturbing. Well that's already it's name- I didn't choose that. I just created the design based on that and the other ships. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Marc McIntyre Crendraven
The Knights of Retribution
23
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:26:00 -
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Whoa there, a double bonus from each of the races (Gallente and Amarr) is extreme power creep, all the other Pirate Battleships only get a single bonus from their respective race.
Eat Lead!!! Err....Antimatter...whatever! |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
81
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:30:00 -
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Marc McIntyre Crendraven wrote:Whoa there, a double bonus from each of the races (Gallente and Amarr) is extreme power creep, all the other Pirate Battleships only get a single bonus from their respective race.
Hmm.. That's a good point- I'll change that to make it go along with the others. I'm trying to make it reasonable, stats-wise. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Marc McIntyre Crendraven
The Knights of Retribution
25
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:43:00 -
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I like the new version, seems to fit nicely.
Edit: maybe adding a role bonus to laser turrets, as CCP seems to favor them for the SOE ships, although leaving it open for any turret the player wants to use would be interesting. Eat Lead!!! Err....Antimatter...whatever! |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
81
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Posted - 2013.11.14 04:10:00 -
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Marc McIntyre Crendraven wrote:I like the new version, seems to fit nicely.
Edit: maybe adding a role bonus to laser turrets, as CCP seems to favor them for the SOE ships, although leaving it open for any turret the player wants to use would be interesting. Hmm.. Yeah, seeing as I reduced the bonuses, that could work- and they are Amarr/Gallente, so lasers should be a part. I was actually thinking of that, adding the 3rd role bonus like the other two have. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
83
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Posted - 2013.11.14 12:16:00 -
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UPDATE: I've changed a lot of the stats and made it more balanced. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Aldahen
Frozen Dawn Academy Arctic Light
3
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Posted - 2013.11.14 13:12:00 -
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Now the stats look like a beefed up version of the SOE Cruiser. I personally have fate in the creative talent of CCP and expect that the SOE BS will have some kind of new twist in it. Maybe some kind of bridging or jumping ability. Or something totally new.
Meanwhile I'll be happy to play with the Cruiser and Frig.
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Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals Market and Contract PVP
84
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Posted - 2013.11.14 13:27:00 -
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Aldahen wrote:Now the stats look like a beefed up version of the SOE Cruiser. I personally have fate in the creative talent of CCP and expect that the SOE BS will have some kind of new twist in it. Maybe some kind of bridging or jumping ability. Or something totally new.
Meanwhile I'll be happy to play with the Cruiser and Frig.
Ever noticed how the Rattlesnake is a beefed up Gila? Same drone bandwidth and damage bonus, just different hull stats. |

Khan Farshatok
Dedicated Individuals Conditioned to Kill B O R G
57
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Posted - 2013.11.14 13:29:00 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Hey everyone- So I've been really excited for all of the SoE ships we're getting, and even more so for the BS, which is coming out in a point release a little after Rubicon hits. So I was inspired, and drew up a picture of it- ignore the rambling text if you'd like, but I put a decent amount of work into this. I actually took some inspiration from Sisi's placeholder model (the star destroyer-esque model) and incorporated it into the picture- I felt like it matched SoE's aesthetic well. Then I molded parts similar to the other SoE ships onto it and mixed it all together. I also wrote some improvised stats up for it : Hi- 7 Med- 5 Low- 8 Drone Bay: 475m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda) Drone Bandwidth: 125mbit/sec Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme) Role Bonus: 37.5% bonus to tracking speed of large energy turrets Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use) Can fit covert ops cloaking devices (like the others) Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 4% bonus to armor resistances Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 10% bonus to drone damage and hitpoints. I am changing these stats as time goes on, in order to balance them with current ship stats.Tell me what you think- I'd love for CCP to see this and use my drawing as its design  Thanks for reading. EDIT: Changed 5% Amarr BS Bonus to 4%. EDIT: Removed one Medium Power slot. EDIT: Changed 10% Gallente BS Bonus to 7.5%. EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, added Role Bonuses. EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, changed virus strength bonus. EDIT: Added 37.5% Role Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking.
screw you, lasers suck, quit eve and never play again.
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Cassius Invictus
Thou shalt not kill
62
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Posted - 2013.11.14 13:36:00 -
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My two cents:
1) There should be no covert ops cloak bs - leave that for black ops maybe.
2) Getting rid of covops cloak would allow it to make a proper BS: lots of firepower and armour.
3) Bonus for lasers and drone dps should be ok.
Justification: insisting on covops cloak will reduce the firepower, fitting and endurance of this ship. CCP will not allow it to be equal to other pirate BS AND have covops cloak. So be careful what you wish for. |
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
86
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Posted - 2013.11.14 20:52:00 -
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Khan Farshatok wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Hey everyone- So I've been really excited for all of the SoE ships we're getting, and even more so for the BS, which is coming out in a point release a little after Rubicon hits. So I was inspired, and drew up a picture of it- ignore the rambling text if you'd like, but I put a decent amount of work into this. I actually took some inspiration from Sisi's placeholder model (the star destroyer-esque model) and incorporated it into the picture- I felt like it matched SoE's aesthetic well. Then I molded parts similar to the other SoE ships onto it and mixed it all together. I also wrote some improvised stats up for it : Hi- 7 Med- 5 Low- 8 Drone Bay: 475m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda) Drone Bandwidth: 125mbit/sec Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme) Role Bonus: 37.5% bonus to tracking speed of large energy turrets Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use) Can fit covert ops cloaking devices (like the others) Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 4% bonus to armor resistances Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 10% bonus to drone damage and hitpoints. I am changing these stats as time goes on, in order to balance them with current ship stats.Tell me what you think- I'd love for CCP to see this and use my drawing as its design  Thanks for reading. EDIT: Changed 5% Amarr BS Bonus to 4%. EDIT: Removed one Medium Power slot. EDIT: Changed 10% Gallente BS Bonus to 7.5%. EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, added Role Bonuses. EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, changed virus strength bonus. EDIT: Added 37.5% Role Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking. screw you, lasers suck, quit eve and never play again. Well the SOE ships all use drones AND lasers- I couldn't have it not have any bonuses for it's second weapons system. Also, it's a tracking bonus- it'll just let the ship hit smaller targets if it needs to. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
773
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:01:00 -
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OP liked Star Destroyer so much, he put a ring on it. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
86
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Posted - 2013.11.15 02:52:00 -
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Cassius Invictus wrote:My two cents:
1) There should be no covert ops cloak bs - leave that for black ops maybe.
2) Getting rid of covops cloak would allow it to make a proper BS: lots of firepower and armour.
3) Bonus for lasers and drone dps should be ok.
Justification: insisting on covops cloak will reduce the firepower, fitting and endurance of this ship. CCP will not allow it to be equal to other pirate BS AND have covops cloak. So be careful what you wish for. I see your point, and this is definitely not some "final draft". I'm just brainstorming and trying to get CCP to see my drawing. If they used those stats, I'd be surprised but very happy. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
573
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:44:00 -
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Ix nay on the Covert Ops cloak. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
89
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Posted - 2013.11.22 04:42:00 -
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Does anyone have any more feedback? I'd like to get at least one DEV's response to this, even if it's in the contrary; I want to know what CCP thinks, more than anything.
But mostly, I want everybody to look at my pretty picture "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Drake Doe
Flatulaction
298
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Posted - 2013.11.22 04:47:00 -
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The role bonus should definitely be laser centered, otherwise it's going to obsolete the rattlesnake in quite a few cases. "The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! *pops more corn*" ---Evernub-- |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
89
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Posted - 2013.11.22 04:54:00 -
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Drake Doe wrote:The role bonus should definitely be laser centered, otherwise it's going to obsolete the rattlesnake in quite a few cases. I see what you're saying- maybe something to do with range and tracking, as opposed to damage: the main weapons system is supposed to be drones here, anyhow 
I'm going to change it to a tracking and optimal/falloff bonus to large energy turrets. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Drake Doe
Flatulaction
298
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Posted - 2013.11.22 04:58:00 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Drake Doe wrote:The role bonus should definitely be laser centered, otherwise it's going to obsolete the rattlesnake in quite a few cases. I see what you're saying- maybe something to do with range and tracking, as opposed to damage: the main weapons system is supposed to be drones here, anyhow  I'm going to change it to a tracking and optimal/falloff bonus to large energy turrets. That sounds reasonable, but I think optimal will be enough, since it keeps in line with the stratios progression wise. "The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! *pops more corn*" ---Evernub-- |

Jake Sake
Boa Innovations Brothers of Tangra
10
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Posted - 2013.11.22 08:26:00 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:... My design for the Nestor. ... Hi- 7 Med- 5 Low- 8 Turret Hardpoints- 6 Drone Bay: 475m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda) Drone Bandwidth: 125mbit/sec Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme) Role Bonus: 37.5% Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking speed, optimal range and accuracy falloff Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use) Can fit covert ops cloaking devices (like the others) Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 4% bonus to armor resistances Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 10% bonus to drone damage and hit points .... Facepalm! This is so overpowered on so many levels it reeks of alcohol. And taking a look at the picture it sure also looks like alcohol. Dude try to apply the stats you put in that ship in different situations (in your mind). This ship is way too overpowered. It pwn pirate BSs, Navy BSs, BLOPS, Bastioned marauders and Gov. Issue BSs. It would cost 5bill on market just because of demand. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
91
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Posted - 2013.11.25 04:20:00 -
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The ship has a nickname now, courtesy of the folks at EVE Radio- its the SPACE WEDGE "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |
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Yummy Chocolate
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3140
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Posted - 2013.11.25 07:54:00 -
[41] - Quote
it's not an SOE battleship.
it's a database error. Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase Felicity Love >... was thinking "moar popcorn"... but now, seeing the truly awesome contribution this thread is going to make to the Greater Glory Of EVE.... imagonnamakkadapizza.... |

Fourteen Maken
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.11.25 08:06:00 -
[42] - Quote
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Michael Harari wrote:Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday? I said I was aiming high  This is a somewhat OP base, stat-wise. I just wanted people to see my drawing 
Not sure about the front, it looks a bit like a vagina. Nice concept though, I'm interested to see what these will look like when they come out, yet another reason to train Gallente |

Kane Fenris
NWP
120
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Posted - 2013.11.25 09:25:00 -
[43] - Quote
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Michael Harari wrote:Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday? I said I was aiming high  This is a somewhat OP base, stat-wise. I just wanted people to see my drawing 
too much stars wars in the design
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Cardano Firesnake
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
87
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Posted - 2013.11.25 09:47:00 -
[44] - Quote
Michael Harari wrote:Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday?
Seems excellent idea yes. But it would be better to let these options for the capital version with a large ship hangar array of course....
A day without a Troll is a lost day.... ;-) |

Spc One
The Chodak Void Alliance
209
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Posted - 2013.11.25 20:02:00 -
[45] - Quote
Yummy Chocolate wrote:it's not an SOE battleship.
it's a database error. I think it is a SOE battleship, look at the IDs:
Type ID Name 33468Astero 33469Astero Blueprint 33470Stratios 33471Stratios Blueprint 33472Nestor 33473Nestor Blueprint
So Nestor is 1 ID above Stratios Blueprint. Use this link in game: http://xi-networks.net/eve.htm
Description is also:
Quote: This was one of the first vessels the Sisters of EVE made available to capsuleers. It had been under development by the Sanctuary corporation, whose interest in exploration includes not only search & rescue operations but also a constant inquiry into the nature of the EVE Gate. Thanks to the Sisters' efforts and the Sanctuary's particular expertise, the Nestor is an agile, tenacious ship that aptly adheres to the mantra of both rescuers and explorers: Stay safe, stay hidden, and use every tool at your disposal.
It is particularly adept at venturing into dangerous territories, not merely in recovering whatever may be of interest but also in being able to safely bring it back. Its engines have alternate power sources that come into play should any of its cargo - for which it has plenty of room - cause serious interference with internal systems. Its weaponry runs best on renewable sources, an ideal for a ship that doesn't know how long it'll be in deep space. Its carapace is extremely well armored for a ship this agile, and covered in sensors capable of letting its crew track a myriad of different organic signatures. The crew itself is safely protected from any number of transmittable ailments from rescues and other unexpected passengers, thanks to special quarantine bays that are conveniently located near jettisonable openings.
And lastly, an ingenious but cryptic transfer in part of the warp core functionality to an outlying cylindrical structure means the Nestor is able to run certain higher-level cloaking functions with very little technical cost, and minimal interference from warp. The Sisters of EVE have refused to comment on this technology, other than to recommend it not be tampered with.
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
92
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Posted - 2013.11.25 21:05:00 -
[46] - Quote
Yeah, it's already in the game files- it has the Rattlesnake's stats ATM though- I'm just making a design of my own and making up stats for it that are in-line with the other two SoE ships. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
92
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Posted - 2013.11.25 21:06:00 -
[47] - Quote
Kane Fenris wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Michael Harari wrote:Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday? I said I was aiming high  This is a somewhat OP base, stat-wise. I just wanted people to see my drawing  too much stars wars in the design Well the Stratios is undoubtedly Vulcan in design 
Joke aside though, I like the shape- it goes along with the name and colors IMO and I just drew it that way. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

EVEtest Thefirst
Umbrarum Paradisi
0
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Posted - 2013.11.26 04:23:00 -
[48] - Quote
Ooh, nice ship, Uriel! |

Jack Lennox
Killing With a Smile
12
|
Posted - 2013.11.27 05:53:00 -
[49] - Quote
That looks even more Star Destroyer than a Megathron. I need it
KWAS is now recruiting!-á Incursion Running, L4 Missions, Orca boosts for mining, and occasionally some PvP. |

BraveLttl Toaster
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
0
|
Posted - 2013.11.27 08:08:00 -
[50] - Quote
I'd like to see it as a faction black-ops. Give it a standard cloak and the ability to fit a covert bridge |
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Spugg Galdon
APOCALYPSE LEGION The Obsidian Front
314
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Posted - 2013.11.27 09:41:00 -
[51] - Quote
BraveLttl Toaster wrote:I'd like to see it as a faction black-ops. Give it a standard cloak and the ability to fit a covert bridge
I'd prefer this to a Cov Ops cloak capable battle ship |

Kane Fenris
NWP
120
|
Posted - 2013.11.27 09:53:00 -
[52] - Quote
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Kane Fenris wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Michael Harari wrote:Why not also make it immune to damage, able to jump to any system without a cyno and allow it to fit a doomsday? I said I was aiming high  This is a somewhat OP base, stat-wise. I just wanted people to see my drawing  too much stars wars in the design Well the Stratios is undoubtedly Vulcan in design  Joke aside though, I like the shape- it goes along with the name and colors IMO and I just drew it that way.
i didnt say its bad just saying you could have made it look less star wars easy just by giving it a double mid hull segment or some alteration that made it look less obvious. |

Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2154
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Posted - 2013.11.27 10:11:00 -
[53] - Quote
The last thing you want players like me to have, is access to a turreted battleship with a drone bonus that can warp cloaked. |

Kane Fenris
NWP
121
|
Posted - 2013.11.27 10:26:00 -
[54] - Quote
Xolve wrote:The last thing you want players like me to have, is access to a turreted battleship with a drone bonus that can warp cloaked.
if your only half as good as arrogant its exactly what i want you to have 
that and a youtube/twitch account |

Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2154
|
Posted - 2013.11.27 10:30:00 -
[55] - Quote
Kane Fenris wrote:if your only half as good as arrogant its exactly what i want you to have  that and a youtube/twitch account
I never said I wouldn't enjoy it. |

Teroh Vizjereij
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
10
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Posted - 2013.11.27 10:45:00 -
[56] - Quote
I would like it to be more like a USS Enterprise .. would fit with the white theme of SoE ships as well :) |

Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
169
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:13:00 -
[57] - Quote
Nice idea! And please, now a Sisters Battlecruiser calling "Nestle". |

Cordelia Mulholland IV
Posh Space Tarts
4
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:38:00 -
[58] - Quote
Gallente BS bonus of +1 warp core strength per level (f)or GTFO. /s |

Yummy Chocolate
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3503
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:38:00 -
[59] - Quote
Spc One wrote:Yummy Chocolate wrote:it's not an SOE battleship.
it's a database error. I think it is a SOE battleship, look at the IDs ... So Nestor is 1 ID above Stratios Blueprint. Use this link in game: http://xi-networks.net/eve.htm
then how do you explain the fact that the model it had on sisi before it was removed was the generic placeholder model?
Keep in mind that the Nestor was never officially announced or even hinted at by CCP. Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase Felicity Love >... was thinking "moar popcorn"... but now, seeing the truly awesome contribution this thread is going to make to the Greater Glory Of EVE.... imagonnamakkadapizza.... |

Yongtau Naskingar
Yongtau Naskingar Corporation
12
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:05:00 -
[60] - Quote
Yummy Chocolate wrote:Keep in mind that the Nestor was never officially announced or even hinted at by CCP. True. However:
CCP Rise wrote:We hope you guys enjoy the new ships, and make sure to keep your eyes peeled following Rubicon, the Sisters of EVE may not be done giving us new toys quite yetGǪ So. I know people who are training up BS skills just in case. |
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
94
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:45:00 -
[61] - Quote
Yongtau Naskingar wrote:Yummy Chocolate wrote:Keep in mind that the Nestor was never officially announced or even hinted at by CCP. True. However: CCP Rise wrote:We hope you guys enjoy the new ships, and make sure to keep your eyes peeled following Rubicon, the Sisters of EVE may not be done giving us new toys quite yetGǪ So. I know people who are training up BS skills just in case. Yep, this exactly- they said we'd get something more, most likely, and every other pirate faction has a frigate, cruiser and battleship, so it's only logical to assume that a ship with a SoE description is significant in a way. Also, somebody predicted that the BS would be called the Nestor- it has relation to the other names.
And I'm training up my drone and BS skills as we speak- I'd like to be prepared if it comes sometime sooner than later- probably rubicon 1.1. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Seranova Farreach
Lion Squadron
454
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:58:00 -
[62] - Quote
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Hey everyone- So I've been really excited for all of the SoE ships we're getting, and even more so for the BS, which is coming out in a point release a little after Rubicon hits. So I was inspired, and drew up a picture of it- ignore the rambling text if you'd like, but I put a decent amount of work into this: My design for the Nestor. I actually took some inspiration from Sisi's placeholder model (the star destroyer-esque model) and incorporated it into the picture- I felt like it matched SoE's aesthetic well. Then I molded parts similar to the other SoE ships onto it and mixed it all together. I also wrote some improvised stats up for it : Hi- 6 Med- 5 Low- 8 Turret Hardpoints- 4 Drone Bay: 475m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda) Drone Bandwidth: 125mbit/sec Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme) Role Bonus: 37.5% Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking speed, optimal range and accuracy falloff Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use) Can fit covert ops cloaking devices (like the others) Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 4% bonus to armor resistances Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 10% bonus to drone damage and hit points I am changing these stats as time goes on, in order to balance them with current ship stats.Tell me what you think- I'd love for CCP to see this and use my drawing as its design  Thanks for reading. EDIT: Changed 5% Amarr BS Bonus to 4%. EDIT: Removed one Medium Power slot. EDIT: Changed 10% Gallente BS Bonus to 7.5%. EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, added Role Bonuses. EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, changed virus strength bonus. EDIT: Added 37.5% Role Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking. EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus again. EDIT: Added Turret Hardpoint Number. EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus and Role Bonus again. EDIT: Changed Role Bonus again. EDIT: Removed one High Power slot, changed Turret Hard Points to 4.
i love the concept drawing its a little like a star destroyer but has the SOE spin, maybe insted of being that triangular make it more 4 angles (see the rectangular appearances of the 2 current soe ships) as for lp keep it in line with other faction BS's 300,000 for BPC (still needs minerals and time to make) or 600,000 for pre build
PS. CCP Rise already hinted at the SOE battleship in the Reddit QnA he did. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
94
|
Posted - 2013.11.27 18:07:00 -
[63] - Quote
Seranova Farreach wrote:
i love the concept drawing its a little like a star destroyer but has the SOE spin, maybe insted of being that triangular make it more 4 angles (see the rectangular appearances of the 2 current soe ships) as for lp keep it in line with other faction BS's 300,000 for BPC (still needs minerals and time to make) or 600,000 for pre build
PS. CCP Rise already hinted at the SOE battleship in the Reddit QnA he did. Oh yeah, I did see that- in Rise's AMA 
Also, for LP, it would probably be like that for Sanctuary (actually, pirate BS's cost 400,000 for BPC and 800,000 for a pre-built), but it'd be higher for SoE in High-sec. I could see it being around 500-550,000 for the BPC and 900-950,000 for a pre-built.
Regardless, I'm getting one as soon as possible- I'd love for a dev to see my drawing, but whatever if they don't- I'll love the ship regardless of what they use, as long as it's strong enough to be fun to fly  "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
95
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Posted - 2013.11.27 19:29:00 -
[64] - Quote
BraveLttl Toaster wrote:I'd like to see it as a faction black-ops. Give it a standard cloak and the ability to fit a covert bridge I'd also like a ship like that, but I'm keeping it more in-line with the Astero and Stratios- cloaking, drones, armor, lasers and exploration. That kind of ship would be awesome on its own, but I don't think it fits the SoE well enough to use it. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
95
|
Posted - 2013.11.28 02:58:00 -
[65] - Quote
ADDITION: Added that the ship has no reduction in Sensor Recalibration time after dropping cloak: this prevents it from being overpowered. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Chimpface Holocaust
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2013.11.28 05:01:00 -
[66] - Quote
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Hey everyone- So I've been really excited for all of the SoE ships we're getting, and even more so for the BS, which is coming out in a point release a little after Rubicon hits. So I was inspired, and drew up a picture of it- ignore the rambling text if you'd like, but I put a decent amount of work into this: My design for the Nestor. I actually took some inspiration from Sisi's placeholder model (the star destroyer-esque model) and incorporated it into the picture- I felt like it matched SoE's aesthetic well. Then I molded parts similar to the other SoE ships onto it and mixed it all together. I also wrote some improvised stats up for it : Hi- 7 Med- 5 Low- 8 Turret Hardpoints- 5 Drone Bay: 475m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda) Drone Bandwidth: 125mbit/sec Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme) Role Bonus: 37.5% Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking speed, optimal range and accuracy falloff Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use) HAS NO SENSOR RECALIBRATION TIME REDUCTION. (to keep the cloak from being OP) Can fit covert ops cloaking devices (like the others) Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 4% bonus to armor resistances Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 10% bonus to drone damage and hit points I am changing these stats as time goes on, in order to balance them with current ship stats.Tell me what you think- I'd love for CCP to see this and use my drawing as its design  Thanks for reading. EDIT: Changed 5% Amarr BS Bonus to 4%. EDIT: Removed one Medium Power slot. EDIT: Changed 10% Gallente BS Bonus to 7.5%. EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, added Role Bonuses. EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, changed virus strength bonus. EDIT: Added 37.5% Role Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking. EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus again. EDIT: Added Turret Hardpoint Number. EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus and Role Bonus again. EDIT: Changed Role Bonus again. EDIT: Removed one High Power slot, changed Turret Hard Points to 4. EDIT: Gave 1 High Power slot back, added 1 Turret Hard Point. EDIT: Mentioned that it has no sensor recalibration time reduction.
I haz an idea. It can be a faction scanny Marauder / mini carrier \o/ bask in the OPness
Hi- 7 Med- 5 Low- 8
Turret Hardpoints- 3
Drone Bay: 800m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda) Drone Bandwidth: 250mbit/sec Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme)
Role Bonus: 70% Reduction in Micro Jump Drive recharge time Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use)
Can fit Bastion Module
Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 4% bonus to armor resistances
Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level: Can launch 1 additional drone per level
Because: science! |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
95
|
Posted - 2013.11.28 05:45:00 -
[67] - Quote
[quote=Chimpface Holocaust
I haz an idea. It can be a faction scanny Marauder / mini carrier \o/ bask in the OPness
Hi- 7 Med- 5 Low- 8
Turret Hardpoints- 3
Drone Bay: 800m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda) Drone Bandwidth: 250mbit/sec Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme)
Role Bonus: 70% Reduction in Micro Jump Drive recharge time Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use)
Can fit Bastion Module
Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 4% bonus to armor resistances
Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level: Can launch 1 additional drone per level
Because: science![/quote] Now Now, let's not let this get too out of hand!  "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Tessen
Stellar Tide
4
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Posted - 2013.11.28 12:40:00 -
[68] - Quote
I like the drawing. Even if it have something from Eclipse class in SW.
Considering slots layout : Astero is 4/4/2 Stratios is 5/5/5 Each race have some constants : Cadari have more med slots, Amarr have more low etc. Look like SOE have same number for Low and Med. This BS should be 6/6/6
Stats are OP. Moreover fitting Covert Op Cloack should be for Black Ops only. However, this SOE BS could become the 1st faction Black Ops with stats according to existing BO.
The name : /me laught. It's a shame this name look definitive. "Nestor" word have some history in French. And it is definitively not a name for +á Battleship. |

xKOMODOx
14
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Posted - 2013.11.28 16:20:00 -
[69] - Quote
This one looks interesting and very appropriate with the SOE line
SOE Battleship-Tiamat or Naru-Kami model SOE Battleship |

Chimpface Holocaust
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2013.11.28 19:59:00 -
[70] - Quote
Now say OPness
out loud |
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The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
117
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Posted - 2013.11.28 22:07:00 -
[71] - Quote
SOE battleship introduction is a good chance to push black ops towards covops cloak ability. Make it so.
And write a lore about the cloaking systems of SOE (stratios info) being leaked. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
95
|
Posted - 2013.11.29 01:31:00 -
[72] - Quote
I really like the disign of that "Tiamat" one- the only thing is that the ship's name is already confirmed as the "Nestor" in the game files. Also, it just needs a ring :P
I really like it, though- and what a weird coincidence that a ship design from a contest from 2010 would have the same color scheme!  "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Lux Or
Laitech Industries
1
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:25:00 -
[73] - Quote
looks interesting :) |

Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
685
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:32:00 -
[74] - Quote
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:I really like the disign of that "Tiamat" one- the only thing is that the ship's name is already confirmed as the "Nestor" in the game files. Also, it just needs a ring :P I really like it, though- and what a weird coincidence that a ship design from a contest from 2010 would have the same color scheme!  I like the Naru-Kami the best. Make it white with some red accents and we're off to the races! I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
95
|
Posted - 2013.11.29 19:28:00 -
[75] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:I like the Naru-Kami the best. Make it white with some red accents and we're off to the races! Well I honestly like them both a lot- I tend to go for a more "Space Battleship Yamato"-esque look 
But yeah, change the color scheme and add a ring and that'd make a pretty nice ship itself!
"A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Mikkir
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.11.29 19:39:00 -
[76] - Quote
Just as a completely outside take on the SOE ships is a focus on the humanitarian side of the history with logistics ships. Maybe 'out of size logistics ships' if they ever added faction destroyers and battle cruisers. I only bring it up because I think that having a logistics battleship hull would be interesting for MJD capable support ships for battleship fleets.
But carry on with the OP's idea, I was more musing then actually sharing a well formed argument. |

Freako X
Doom Inc
112
|
Posted - 2013.11.29 22:28:00 -
[77] - Quote
Chimpface Holocaust wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Hey everyone- So I've been really excited for all of the SoE ships we're getting, and even more so for the BS, which is coming out in a point release a little after Rubicon hits. So I was inspired, and drew up a picture of it- ignore the rambling text if you'd like, but I put a decent amount of work into this: My design for the Nestor. I actually took some inspiration from Sisi's placeholder model (the star destroyer-esque model) and incorporated it into the picture- I felt like it matched SoE's aesthetic well. Then I molded parts similar to the other SoE ships onto it and mixed it all together. I also wrote some improvised stats up for it : Hi- 7 Med- 5 Low- 8 Turret Hardpoints- 5 Drone Bay: 475m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda) Drone Bandwidth: 125mbit/sec Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme) Role Bonus: 37.5% Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking speed, optimal range and accuracy falloff Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use) HAS NO SENSOR RECALIBRATION TIME REDUCTION. (to keep the cloak from being OP) Can fit covert ops cloaking devices (like the others) Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 4% bonus to armor resistances Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 10% bonus to drone damage and hit points I am changing these stats as time goes on, in order to balance them with current ship stats.Tell me what you think- I'd love for CCP to see this and use my drawing as its design  Thanks for reading. EDIT: Changed 5% Amarr BS Bonus to 4%. EDIT: Removed one Medium Power slot. EDIT: Changed 10% Gallente BS Bonus to 7.5%. EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, added Role Bonuses. EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, changed virus strength bonus. EDIT: Added 37.5% Role Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking. EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus again. EDIT: Added Turret Hardpoint Number. EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus and Role Bonus again. EDIT: Changed Role Bonus again. EDIT: Removed one High Power slot, changed Turret Hard Points to 4. EDIT: Gave 1 High Power slot back, added 1 Turret Hard Point. EDIT: Mentioned that it has no sensor recalibration time reduction. I haz an idea. It can be a faction scanny Marauder / mini carrier \o/ bask in the OPness Hi- 7 Med- 5 Low- 8 Turret Hardpoints- 3 Drone Bay: 800m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda) Drone Bandwidth: 250mbit/sec Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme) Role Bonus: 70% Reduction in Micro Jump Drive recharge time Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use) Can fit Bastion Module Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level: 4% bonus to armor resistances Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level: Can launch 1 additional drone per level Because: science!
One drone per skill point is too much. 5 bits bandwidth per skill point ... not so much. 5/5 Gal BS = one more sentry. I think you'd need to maintain a drone dmg increase as well.
Design? A - for effort. I think it is too angular. Needs to be a bit more lithe and boxy at the same time.
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Kueyen
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2013.11.30 00:26:00 -
[78] - Quote
Behold: http://i.imgur.com/9gSs7J8.jpg
Discuss! |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
95
|
Posted - 2013.11.30 00:26:00 -
[79] - Quote
Freako X wrote:
One drone per skill point is too much. 5 bits bandwidth per skill point ... not so much. 5/5 Gal BS = one more sentry. I think you'd need to maintain a drone dmg increase as well.
Design? A - for effort. I think it is too angular. Needs to be a bit more lithe and boxy at the same time.
Well I'd say that having 6 total drones could be potentially very overpowered- I'd rather keep it a 5 total and work from there. Otherwise, it'd be the only drone boat really worth using.
And I see what you mean about the design- I left a lot of the more intricate detailing out of it, as it's only a draft drawing, but it could maybe do with a little more boxiness- I took a lot from star wars and space battleship yamato, subconsciously, I think "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
95
|
Posted - 2013.11.30 00:36:00 -
[80] - Quote
Ahh, interesting! Where'd you find that? I like the design a lot and it definitely had a LOT of work into it- it looks like some sort of space station My only problem with it is that everything looks a little too evenly distributed- maybe if the ring was closer to the other end..?
But that's amazing work, regardless! I just feel like it looks a little.. fragile to be a battleship. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1707
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Posted - 2013.11.30 00:41:00 -
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That looks a lot like the default holding ship ccp use on the test server..
And a star destroyer :P BYDI recruitment closed-ish |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
95
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Posted - 2013.11.30 00:48:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:That looks a lot like the default holding ship ccp use on the test server..
And a star destroyer :P Haha, yes, I realized- I actually used it somewhat as inspiration- the aesthetic of the shape seemed to fit its name, at least to me, so I took it and made it into a Sisters of EVE battleship. And yes, it does look like a star destroyer :P
I also took some inspiration from Space Battleship Yamato, but I suppose that isn't as immediately apparent "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Kueyen
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2013.11.30 01:16:00 -
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source clarification: http://capitalstorm.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/wpid-20131130_104514.jpg
the word is: low mass (for wormholes), but not covert ops cloak capable. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
95
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Posted - 2013.11.30 01:25:00 -
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I really think that could be a useful idea- I just don't like the two huge wings sticking out of it too much 
Interesting, though. I just wish they'd make it a little more sturdy looking- it looks kind of delicate. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Hawkwar
M.I.M.M.S The Watchmen.
25
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Posted - 2013.11.30 02:07:00 -
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Like the fact we get a new BS. Dont like the 2 huge wings sticking out of it - ruins the look of the ship completely. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
96
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Posted - 2013.11.30 02:10:00 -
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Hawkwar wrote:Like the fact we get a new BS. Dont like the 2 huge wings sticking out of it - ruins the look of the ship completely. Yeah,they don't compliment the hull at all- it looks really strange. I'm happy to get a new BS though- even if it won'd do well in it's designated area of operation- wormholes. Sleepers don't like drones very much  "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
688
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:13:00 -
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At least it's white. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
97
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Posted - 2013.11.30 04:49:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:At least it's white. Interesting that it has a shuttle bay... Yeah, very- I'm curious to see where this'll go.
But I'm also hoping it has HUGE drone bay- 800m3 is my highest hope  "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Thellorms Nor'Fein
Federal Bounty Services
5
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Posted - 2013.11.30 06:07:00 -
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@OP: Wow... At first, when I looked at your sketch, I wanted to say "It's a star destroyer rip off!". But then, I looked closer and saw the more elegant lines and curves from the other angles and I gotta say, I'm VERY impressed. I WANT this design in game. When looking at an Astero, and then the Stratios in my hangar, I can see that the manner in which you designed this ship is indeed an 'evolutionary step' in the progression of this ship's aesthetics.
I sincerely hope CCP looks at this and takes it seriously. This is GREAT! |

Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
690
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Posted - 2013.11.30 06:24:00 -
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Thellorms Nor'Fein wrote:I sincerely hope CCP looks at this and takes it seriously. This is GREAT! When have you ever known CCP to substantially change something once they've tentatively announced it?
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Yeah, very- I'm curious to see where this'll go. But I'm also hoping it has HUGE drone bay- 800m3 is my highest hope  I'd rather have a Frigate Bay.  I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
97
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Posted - 2013.11.30 06:27:00 -
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Thellorms Nor'Fein wrote:@OP: Wow... At first, when I looked at your sketch, I wanted to say "It's a star destroyer rip off!". But then, I looked closer and saw the more elegant lines and curves from the other angles and I gotta say, I'm VERY impressed. I WANT this design in game. When looking at an Astero, and then the Stratios in my hangar, I can see that the manner in which you designed this ship is indeed an 'evolutionary step' in the progression of this ship's aesthetics.
I sincerely hope CCP looks at this and takes it seriously. This is GREAT! Wow, thanks for liking it so much! I put a lot of thought into it- I had really hoped that CCP would see it before they made their own design, but oh well-I had a good run Maybe they'll see it anyways and say "Good Job" or something  "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
97
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Posted - 2013.11.30 06:27:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Thellorms Nor'Fein wrote:I sincerely hope CCP looks at this and takes it seriously. This is GREAT! When have you ever known CCP to substantially change something once they've tentatively announced it? Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Yeah, very- I'm curious to see where this'll go. But I'm also hoping it has HUGE drone bay- 800m3 is my highest hope  I'd rather have a Frigate Bay.  Haha, so we'd have mini-carriers flying around everywhere. eh? THAT'D be interesting!  "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
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