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SJ Astralana Syncore 14	Posted - 2013.11.16 02:58:00 - [1] - Quote Hello Eve producers, I've been readying a web application for public consumption and would like to get an idea whether there is any interest in using such a tool. To summarise the daily workflow, a producer will: - Download EVE API data - Export market data, which is uploaded by a desktop agent to the web service - Make a quick decision whether a change to a minimum markup is warranted - Make a quick decision whether material inventory levels need to be adjusted upwards in response to information provided - Start production jobs in order of profitability - Create contracts to haul materials to the factory - Create contracts to haul produced items to market - Create and update sell orders - Create and update buy orders - Log for 23.86 hours :) The current configurable parameters are: - Minimum markup - Undercutting strategy for sales - Overcutting strategy for purchases - Broker fees and sales tax percentages - Per-material stock adjustment factors - Per-item build increments - Range buy order # of jumps - Threshold for identifying when to haul from remote hangars Current reporting meets general needs, but aren't fantastic: - Application dashboard showing wallet balance and rolling-7 figures for sales, profit and GP% - Item sales over a date range - Daily sales over a rolling-7 period - Item cost trends - Material cost trends Any number of character and corporate API entries can be set up to integrate into your configured account. The software is geared to manage a single region, but if you produce in multiple regions, multiple accounts can be created. Built into the software are quite advanced business rules that allow for well-considered supply side management. For instance, buy order price update rules will look at inventory levels compared to current production needs and overall inventory health to automatically switch from overcutting buy orders to a configured range to competing directly against the hub, as well as using current cost trends to influence pricing strategies for items which may be over- or under-heated. The benefit of my application is that all decisions are automated and instantaneous. Back when I used to use a free asset management tool which I imported into spreadsheets, I would spend about 30 minutes a day managing my production interests. As my application has matured, I've found my daily time investment is now 10 minutes a day, and my isk/hour of production clicking has steadied at 1.2-1.4 bil/hour. I'll be shortly producing two videos, one walking through the daily work flow of an established producer (me), and another providing a quick start to a new producer interested in getting started. There are significant costs associated with providing this service. First, it requires a Microsoft Stack web service to host the application, which means out of pocket expenses. Second, it provides producers with the ability to use my own tools to compete directly against me. As such, I plan to transition this service to a commission-based model; it will not in any sense ever be free. After an initial grace period, I plan to sell the service for 5% of recorded profits per month. Whether the pricing is worth it will come down to your time savings and profit levels, of course. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. Beta testers will receive a liberal free period, as they will no doubt be vocal about their business needs in comparison to the assumptions that have been built into the software, and I will apply that feedback toward making EPM the go-to production software used by Eve producers. About me: I'm a consulting web services developer working for one of the top consultancies in Australia. I've been working in the Commercial/Enterprise web space for a number of years, and for the past 18 months this application has been my playground for architectural exploration. It's been fun, but it's matured to the point that it deserves to be raised to a new level. Would you like to jump aboard? I'm interested to hear who's interested. The more forthcoming you may be in describing your business model, your volume, profitability and time investment, the better I will be able to get you started in a productive and successful fashion. If you're not an established producer, then the beta program probably isn't for you, as sanity checking what an application tells you to do is obviously essential. Looking forward to hearing from you, either here or in game. SJ Astralana = Danari = Alak D'bor. I don't fuss about which account/toon is logged in, nor do I hide behind alts.
Wafflehead Hurricane Research 33	Posted - 2013.11.16 16:00:00 - [2] - Quote SJ Astralana wrote: - Create contracts to haul materials to the factory - Create contracts to haul produced items to market - Create and update sell orders - Create and update buy orders You are seriously trying to promote a bot here?
Lord LazyGhost The Bastards The Bastards. 185	Posted - 2013.11.16 16:10:00 - [3] - Quote In before the perma ban

ISD Suvetar ISD Community Communications Liaisons 2610	Posted - 2013.11.16 17:56:00 - [4] - Quote Hi, I've locked this pending an investigation by the CCP. Thanks. ISD Suvetar Captain/Commando Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department


CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 2968	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:26:00 - [5] - Quote Unlocking this. The tool does not actually create anything in the game itself, merely shows what sort of numbers a player should use to create contracts and the like. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept @CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents

Adunh Slavy 1294	Posted - 2013.12.04 17:30:00 - [6] - Quote Looks like a nice set of tools for large scale manufacturing. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt
SJ Astralana Syncore 15	Posted - 2013.12.05 06:15:00 - [7] - Quote A demonstration video can be seen here. I'll be posting a second video walking through setting up a new account shortly. SJ Astralana = Danari = Alak D'bor. I don't fuss about which account/toon is logged in, nor do I hide behind alts.
Gallente Citizen 827473904528 LoGisTicAl ERr0R 11	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:19:00 - [8] - Quote I'd be up for Beta testing, also would give me the chance to maybe make that move into becoming more of an industry buff.
Nolen Cadmar Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations 58	Posted - 2013.12.05 17:17:00 - [9] - Quote I would also be interested in participating in beta testing, if there will be any. After the intro video, I'm a bit confused on some of the functions and how exactly they work. I'm not sure if you'll be releasing that information or not though. I'm a spreadsheet nerd, I like being able to see how each thing operates :) Nolen's Spreadsheet Guru Services: Need a spreadsheet created, maintained, updated or repaired? Learn more about my services at:-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3865379
SJ Astralana Syncore 16	Posted - 2013.12.05 20:22:00 - [10] - Quote Nolen Cadmar wrote: I would also be interested in participating in beta testing, if there will be any. After the intro video, I'm a bit confused on some of the functions and how exactly they work. I'm not sure if you'll be releasing that information or not though. I'm a spreadsheet nerd, I like being able to see how each thing operates :) I'll be fully transparent on the inner operations -- how can you sanity check and begin to trust the results otherwise -- so ask away. SJ Astralana = Danari = Alak D'bor. I don't fuss about which account/toon is logged in, nor do I hide behind alts.

Thermopylaee State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.12.05 23:15:00 - [11] - Quote SJ Astralana wrote: The benefit of my application is that all decisions are automated and instantaneous. Back when I used to use a free asset management tool which I imported into spreadsheets, I would spend about 30 minutes a day managing my production interests. As my application has matured, I've found my daily time investment is now 10 minutes a day, and my isk/hour of production clicking has steadied at 1.2-1.4 bil/hour. SJ A, This sounds incredible, I have only dreamed of ever being able to produce that kind of return (2 PLEX an hour?!). My questions are: is it sustainable? And will increased participation (say from interested folks here...) dilute the market for various items? How many market heavyweights can this application support? I'm totally strapped for time in real life, and so badly want to participate in EVE... yet I have lacked the ability to generate any serious ISK toward my goals without a massive in-game time commitment. Also, as a "rookie" producer (total newb here), what type of initial capital do you envision someone like myself needs to begin generating decent returns: 10M? 100M? 1B? And is there a barrier to entry on skills that should be achieved before trying any of these methods? Thanks for posting your info, I look forward to watching the videos!
SJ Astralana Syncore 16	Posted - 2013.12.06 07:42:00 - [12] - Quote Forum malfunction, please delete. SJ Astralana = Danari = Alak D'bor. I don't fuss about which account/toon is logged in, nor do I hide behind alts.
SJ Astralana Syncore 16	Posted - 2013.12.06 07:44:00 - [13] - Quote Thermopylaee wrote: My questions are: is it sustainable? And will increased participation (say from interested folks here...) dilute the market for various items? How many market heavyweights can this application support? I've had the same portfolio over the past 12 months, and my results have been consistent. As the software is unique, it's premature to speculate on any impact it may have. The software has been designed from the ground up for scalability and will be hosted on a commercial grade service. Even my 600,000 rows of data running on my development notebook doesn't cause a flinch. SJ Astralana = Danari = Alak D'bor. I don't fuss about which account/toon is logged in, nor do I hide behind alts.
Pedro Minatore 0	Posted - 2013.12.06 13:15:00 - [14] - Quote signing up for beta here as well...... sounds really amazing!! Kudos for you sir! "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." (Socrates)
Gallente Citizen 827473904528 LoGisTicAl ERr0R 11	Posted - 2013.12.06 13:43:00 - [15] - Quote When will the users selected for Beta testing be made aware? And is there any form of outside support you require?
Kethas Protagonist Protagonist Ventures 63	Posted - 2013.12.06 19:36:00 - [16] - Quote SJ Astralana wrote: I've had the same portfolio over the past 12 months, and my results have been consistent. Why have you not expanded into a new product in over a year, particularly given that you 1) apparently have spare capital and 2) ostensibly have a tool that would make finding profitable products and the optimal market+manufacturing operations behind them trivial?
SJ Astralana Syncore 16	Posted - 2013.12.06 20:08:00 - [17] - Quote Kethas Protagonist wrote: SJ Astralana wrote: I've had the same portfolio over the past 12 months, and my results have been consistent. Why have you not expanded into a new product in over a year, particularly given that you 1) apparently have spare capital and 2) ostensibly have a tool that would make finding profitable products and the optimal market+manufacturing operations behind them trivial? I added an apoc and abaddon bpo to my portfolio in May of last year, and it whip-sawed my production to unbelievable proportions. Back then I was focusing on factory isk/hr and making the mistake of chasing that using low margins, and I ran into the same trap I see producers constantly falling into. It wasn't until about March of this year I finally figured out how to make the same profits with the same portfolio without chasing thin margins, and I ran it through a couple more patches to feel more confident. Also, teiricide was really complicating things and only a fool would add a hull with a chance of months of production being disrupted. I think for now the best tool a producer can use it to simply look at the market graph at a three month range. My two best rigs are large. One shows a 20/40 volume band with three sharp price spikes, the other shows a 500/1000 with two sharp price spikes. I'd pick up a couple more large rigs that look like that. For a battleship, there's a 100/200 Gallente hull that's depressingly flat that I would avoid, but a 20/40 spikey one that looks promising. Stuff like that. I believe price/cost ratio volatility is where the margins are. It's the hours when your competition has exhausted their supplies that lead to the spikes, and having a couple of backup stacks ready for that day is just wild. SJ Astralana = Danari = Alak D'bor. I don't fuss about which account/toon is logged in, nor do I hide behind alts.
Gallente Citizen 827473904528 LoGisTicAl ERr0R 11	Posted - 2013.12.11 12:26:00 - [18] - Quote Any updates? How are things coming along with your next video?
Leslie Beaver University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.12.11 21:20:00 - [19] - Quote I am just starting up a industrial alt and I would love to jump in on this. Do you still have spots avail for beta testing?
SJ Astralana Syncore 16	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:40:00 - [20] - Quote I deployed to a Microsoft Azure web host a few days ago, which went very well, but of course found a couple of things to look into. I should be able to publish the video by Monday. SJ Astralana = Danari = Alak D'bor. I don't fuss about which account/toon is logged in, nor do I hide behind alts.

Havoc Zealot Sky Fighters 62	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:53:00 - [21] - Quote As someone who invents, manufactures, and generally has an interest in new and exciting EVE tools I am interested in being part of the testing.
SJ Astralana Syncore 16	Posted - 2013.12.15 11:45:00 - [22] - Quote I've successfully worked through all my deployment issues and this afternoon used EPM on Azure for my production business for the first time. All aspects -- market upload installer, market upload service, API updates, reporting, cross browser support, performance, server load, logging -- look good. Everyone who has contacted me here and in game will be contacted in turn and brought in to the beta. The getting started video will be another few days, as my spare time is less my own in the lead-up to the holidays. SJ Astralana = Danari = Alak D'bor. I don't fuss about which account/toon is logged in, nor do I hide behind alts.
Nif Makria Eve Engineering Finance Eve Engineering 0	Posted - 2013.12.15 17:17:00 - [23] - Quote i am also very interested in BETA too.. Thanks
Silvery Delight State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.12.15 23:32:00 - [24] - Quote This is really interesting. I'd really like to participate in it. T Thanks for the time that you've spent in creating this great tool!
Mr. Orange Band of Freelancers 336	Posted - 2013.12.16 00:26:00 - [25] - Quote @ OP You only run 11 factory slots? Dafug?
SJ Astralana Syncore 16	Posted - 2013.12.16 06:50:00 - [26] - Quote Mr. Orange wrote: @ OP You only run 11 factory slots? Dafug? I used to max out my slots when chasing thin margins. No doubt others will be creative with their production models, and I'm looking forward to the feature requests that align with their points of view. SJ Astralana = Danari = Alak D'bor. I don't fuss about which account/toon is logged in, nor do I hide behind alts.
Yenapa DIE NASU 0	Posted - 2013.12.16 13:55:00 - [27] - Quote That looks very very good. I would be much interested in participating in the Beta also! Cheers
Anders Madeveda Sturmgrenadier Inc 0	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:24:00 - [28] - Quote Intriguing, if you have an available Beta slot I would volunteer my time to help test it.
Mindhal Void Engineers Permanent Transience 0	Posted - 2013.12.17 11:13:00 - [29] - Quote same here, the app looks amazing good job! im available for beta testing if you'd like some more
Annathalia Blood Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 14	Posted - 2014.01.06 17:54:00 - [30] - Quote I am also interested in beta tests of this sounds_like_be_amazing tool :)



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