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Replicant Amara
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:19:00 -
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It is me or Megacite, is becoming very rare... Is this some corporation monopoly, or the devs are doing this to raise prices? The price has gone from 7400 to 10,000, and I suspect it will go even higher becaouse is very difficult to get... any comments?
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deadon
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:58:00 -
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There is plenty of it (just been out mining it)
..but the reason is, all the big corps holdes it - and they push up the price or they keep it for their battleship productions ..they got plenty of money so why sell to us small ?
Soon Eve will be 5-10 huge corps there is fighting about the good areals (alliance and my naked ass) and democrati is is a rare loot ..at that time i will have uninstall this monopolgame and went back to Tetris...
thats my comment... Deadon
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jarjar on 02/09/2003 13:00:43
Not true, we still mine bistot with 4 ships in a small (small!) corp. Without being in an alliance such as stain/venal/fountain.
The value of bistot (/megacyte) rises for each and every day it seems. 
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Light Kominski
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:05:00 -
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We are a small corp also. However, we manage to mine bistot quite easily... The problem is one of haulage as the ore can only be found quite a distance from any station (usually the case).
Big corps have the advantage, not in finding the ore but having the infrastructure to take advantage of the find.
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:50:00 -
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Also, don't forget the war in Venal. Evolution raiding parties were disrupting mining efforts, and what WAS mined would be used for production rather than sold. Since Venal is one of the larger megacyte producing areas, that has to cause a drop in supply. Add to that the fact that Bistot is getting more and more mined out near stations (er, as near as Bistot GETS anyway) and you end up with miners going farther to get it, having more danger mining it, and being less likely to sell it to the market. Therefore, the price shoots up...
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BSOD
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:58:00 -
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Two reasons it's expensive:
a) Venal war. Essentially, mining operations in one of the 3 largest bistot-containing regions have ceased.
b) Babyroid bug. All bistot roids within sensible distance of stations have been mined out and aren't respawning with more than 1-2 units per roid. Now that there are no bistot roids within 2-3 or more jumps of any station, the price will go up, and keep on doing so as distance increases.
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Falnaerith
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:25:00 -
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It isn't just the war that is affecting it.
Since the belt reset, much bistot was mined, and at close proximity to a station. Now that you need to jump to a system 30 times away from the nearest station to mine bist, at least an hour round trip for an indy, then it is harder to get.
With many corporations focusing on their own productions, instead of selling, the availability is down. War of course just compounds this.
Once mining platforms become available, i think that the prices will steadily climb as the bistot is only available at farther ranges.
When the prices were at around 7700 or so, it would take a loaded indy about an hour to make a round trip to some sites, which at the time was calculated to about 1.23 mil isk in megacyte per hour.
Just not profitable to continue at those rates when you can make 3 times that doing cargo runs.
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One thing i believe i saw somewhere is the negation of insta jumps at gates. This will further hurt the people mining bist as they can't set bookmarks to insta jump to and from station, and laden with cargo expanders and afterburners, it will take time to go the 30k.
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Nephlite
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:03:00 -
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There are a lot of conflicts going on in eve and thus production is down everywhere. Not only in Venal but in Fountain also as many Fountain corps are now engaged in active combat.
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Replicant Amara
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:21:00 -
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My corp, went to mine bistot last night cause there is no-place to find ità In some places you can find it at 10K. We find it 32 jumps away form our base... and to get the cargo hold for one refine it take a almost a full indi cargo... Our corp is small so we have limited amount of players... the amount of time to take the trip mine and come back is not profitable at all, cause you can make 6 times more money in a security system and all our members mining on it... So we suspect that if this situation keeps like that the price will rice to 20K for Megacite, specially if you take into account that these war are using it and the demand for BS keeps up for normal players... Then the price of BS will rise a 20 to 30 percent... at that time everyone will go and try to mine bistot... and pirates will start making lots of money...
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Vanaaa
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Posted - 2003.09.03 14:47:00 -
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[quote and pirates will start making lots of money...
lol pirates already make huge profits
there's just one way to avoid them making money... self destruct before they pod you. then at least your cargo explodes as well...
nuff said
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Falnaerith
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Posted - 2003.09.03 18:57:00 -
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Replicant, here's something you might want to keep in mind. If you are a small corp, focus on hauling, not mining. Getting one person into a thorax cruiser to mine bist, while the rest make runs to drop off at your base is the way to go.
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Reluah
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Posted - 2003.09.03 20:07:00 -
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We find it 32 jumps away form our base... and to get the cargo hold for one refine it take a almost a full indi cargo...
hauling is a *****, but if u look around u should find bistot *alot* closer
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.09.03 21:09:00 -
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and to get the cargo hold for one refine it take a almost a full indi cargo
Actually 1 decent indy like a bestower with full expanders (even basic ones) can hold enough bistot for 2 or more refines. But you do have a point that its tough for a small corp to mine it. Unless you have several people in thorax's or battleships and several more hauling (like 2 ore more indies per mining ship) it takes too long to pull decent quantities of bist.
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.09.04 20:16:00 -
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Weren't mobile refineries coming with the next patch?
That would solve some problems I guess.
Though on the other hand, the chance of it being a bug the size of Godzilla and it eating all your ore or not being affected by skills is like 50%, especially since it hasn't even been tested in beta to my knowledge.
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Taliranowe Sarum
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Posted - 2003.09.05 01:36:00 -
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Even as one of the major parts of the current ongoing war, i believe we have megacyte to sell. Last price was 10.000 isk per unit, also tradeable for 10000 trit per unit.
Contact our commerce department for a trade.
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