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Galaxion
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Posted - 2006.02.22 19:36:00 -
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As an outside third party reading this thread, it is becoming clear as day that PA continues to haemorrhage credibility, while those who recognise the signs of a dying alliance are jumping ship as soon as possible.
PA should be eradicated. Permanently. -----------------------------------------
I like ya though, who are you again? - Wrangler I think he is the guy with the big rubber ball - Vanamonde Nice 'tash - Cortes |

Sassinak
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Posted - 2006.02.22 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo sass you still play? 
yeah man \o/
i just got back the other day.  Sass Arcane Technologies |

StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.02.22 23:33:00 -
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to bring this back on track pa should really consider themselves in trouble no allies left in the north bar the nbsi . iron and g have left you for dead STAN FACTA NON VERBA THE ALPS SUCKED BTW |

Metal Dude
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Posted - 2006.02.22 23:36:00 -
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But they still have RA(T), CELES and Burn Eden. 
The truth will set you free
* Proud to be ATUK * |

Dao 2
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Posted - 2006.02.22 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude But they still have RA(T), CELES and Burn Eden. 
we are not friendly with BE i be thinkin :| ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p)
the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.02.22 23:55:00 -
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Prediction:
1 week from today: The current incarnation of PA will fight its last fleet battle. Win or lose (I suspect they lose) PA can say good bye to the carebears with guns that bolsters thier current ranks. Left are only a few hardcore PVP'rs who won't leave.
2 weeks from today: Someone will controll branch. No idea who, or exactly when they will take it over, only that most of PA will have long left the area.
4 weeks from today: PA is a empire allience for the most part. There are a number (though small) of PA pilots who roam around, claiming to be activly fighting whom ever. Though the majority of them are in empire, since there's no where they can dock in 0.0, the forums are filled with promises that they are indeed still fighting.
8 weeks from today: PA's member counts are low, very low. I would bet that at this time a significant number of corps, are able to claim more online members then PA can. Not that anyone can blame those who leave. Its ushally best to leave a sinking ship before the underto can pull you down with it.
1/2 year or so from today: PA with is 5 active PVP'rs will still be claiming to be fighting, and perhaps even winning.
1 year from today: Ha ha, PA finnaly win's. It would seem after a year or more of doing nothing in Branch, whom ever took it over simply got board and left. PA picks up the scraps, and claims to have ousted the evil indruders, and brought them to thier knees. No mention is made of the fact that they hid in empire, and havn't mad an offensive move, or docked in thier own stations for the last year or so. Nor does anyone seem to care that the invaders are heathy, strong and activly fighting someone else. PA killed them damn it, long live PA
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.02.23 00:00:00 -
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lorth my good man you have hit the nail on the head STAN FACTA NON VERBA THE ALPS SUCKED BTW |

Invisible Touch
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Posted - 2006.02.23 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth Prediction:
1 week from today: The current incarnation of PA will fight its last fleet battle. Win or lose (I suspect they lose) PA can say good bye to the carebears with guns that bolsters thier current ranks. Left are only a few hardcore PVP'rs who won't leave.
2 weeks from today: Someone will controll branch. No idea who, or exactly when they will take it over, only that most of PA will have long left the area.
4 weeks from today: PA is a empire allience for the most part. There are a number (though small) of PA pilots who roam around, claiming to be activly fighting whom ever. Though the majority of them are in empire, since there's no where they can dock in 0.0, the forums are filled with promises that they are indeed still fighting.
8 weeks from today: PA's member counts are low, very low. I would bet that at this time a significant number of corps, are able to claim more online members then PA can. Not that anyone can blame those who leave. Its ushally best to leave a sinking ship before the underto can pull you down with it.
1/2 year or so from today: PA with is 5 active PVP'rs will still be claiming to be fighting, and perhaps even winning.
1 year from today: Ha ha, PA finnaly win's. It would seem after a year or more of doing nothing in Branch, whom ever took it over simply got board and left. PA picks up the scraps, and claims to have ousted the evil indruders, and brought them to thier knees. No mention is made of the fact that they hid in empire, and havn't mad an offensive move, or docked in thier own stations for the last year or so. Nor does anyone seem to care that the invaders are heathy, strong and activly fighting someone else. PA killed them damn it, long live PA
When copying other people's posts, mention their names.
Creating is way better than destroying
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.02.23 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Invisible Touch
When copying other people's posts, mention their names.
Typed that up myself. If someone has posted something simular I havn't seen it.
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Ceratin
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Posted - 2006.02.23 05:24:00 -
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Edited by: Ceratin on 23/02/2006 05:24:48
Originally by: Sassinak
Originally by: Ceratin
Originally by: Tarma PA is not dead.
It's predictable that they will use again the "Please help us, Five is dead, come help us to finish them" card and go hide NPCing after first days : I bet on IRON.
Oh wait, they still have a "Hire MC and Cruel Intention nubs" card ? Do they ?
Oh wait, will Five use their "Accept BOB help" card ?
hmm... bloody 
Hire MC nubs huh? maybe thats not a bad idea. As for c/i they dont really need an excuse or hiring to shoot at anyone. And 'accept bob help card' well that would infact make you guys look even more pathetic than you do already, so i suspect some1 in ATUK (obviously not you) is clever enough to understand that.
Who are you?
I dont think its your concern to be worrying about who asks who to join the party? If we want PA destroyed and we wish for it that others join us then I think thats our perogative not some snivelling unknown noob in Viziam corp ¼_¼
Please unplug your keyboard.
Thx
Hit a nerve did i? This is the problem with all the smacktalk and claims of immense beating of pa with no effort on your part. Yes, it does look very silly when you call yet more support into the fray. Last time i checked 5/fe/kaos already outnumber pa/nbsi fleets by 3-1 but apparently that might not be enough?
Might be worth thinking how less sweet the victory will be the more people have to help you do it. As for the viziam/keyboard comments.. yes very nice, now go be a good boy and pack your lunch for school tomoz 
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The End
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Posted - 2006.02.23 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ceratin Edited by: Ceratin on 23/02/2006 05:24:48
Originally by: Sassinak
Originally by: Ceratin
Originally by: Tarma PA is not dead.
It's predictable that they will use again the "Please help us, Five is dead, come help us to finish them" card and go hide NPCing after first days : I bet on IRON.
Oh wait, they still have a "Hire MC and Cruel Intention nubs" card ? Do they ?
Oh wait, will Five use their "Accept BOB help" card ?
hmm... bloody 
Hire MC nubs huh? maybe thats not a bad idea. As for c/i they dont really need an excuse or hiring to shoot at anyone. And 'accept bob help card' well that would infact make you guys look even more pathetic than you do already, so i suspect some1 in ATUK (obviously not you) is clever enough to understand that.
Who are you?
I dont think its your concern to be worrying about who asks who to join the party? If we want PA destroyed and we wish for it that others join us then I think thats our perogative not some snivelling unknown noob in Viziam corp ¼_¼
Please unplug your keyboard.
Thx
Hit a nerve did i? This is the problem with all the smacktalk and claims of immense beating of pa with no effort on your part. Yes, it does look very silly when you call yet more support into the fray. Last time i checked 5/fe/kaos already outnumber pa/nbsi fleets by 3-1 but apparently that might not be enough?
Might be worth thinking how less sweet the victory will be the more people have to help you do it. As for the viziam/keyboard comments.. yes very nice, now go be a good boy and pack your lunch for school tomoz 
sassinak > you
people in nub corps shouldnt be allowed to post on these forums
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.02.23 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ceratin
Hit a nerve did i? This is the problem with all the smacktalk and claims of immense beating of pa with no effort on your part. Yes, it does look very silly when you call yet more support into the fray. Last time i checked 5/fe/kaos already outnumber pa/nbsi fleets by 3-1 but apparently that might not be enough?
Might be worth thinking how less sweet the victory will be the more people have to help you do it. As for the viziam/keyboard comments.. yes very nice, now go be a good boy and pack your lunch for school tomoz 
PA weren't doing well at all against [5] even when they had FE, NSBI, IRON, KAOS, etc etc with them and activly fighting thier battles for them. The only thing that has really changed is the ammount of dreads the 3 active PVP pilots PA have to face at any given time
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:20:00 -
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1) I believe as an outsider in this particular conflict that [5] have allready won. Thats my interpretation of the fact that they have exchanged praises with f-e which has withdrawn support from PA and the fact that GIMP has also withdrawn support (apparently).
2) Having say 20 pvp players (not at the same time but overall) that engage group combat is certainly no indication of a healthy alliance. There is an infinite number of low-sec pirate corps that can do the same. Please dont flame I dont know if thats the case with PA. I am simply saying that if that is indeed the case then PA is dead allready. If not, then they are not. I say this because I have had personal experience of an "alliance" that was "fighting" with 2-3 peeps of which usually 1 cov ops pilot (and a good one at that) was active at all times. He would then use his 3 alts to try and a kill a carebear. the entire "alliance" would get 2-4 hauler-Osprey kills per week and they would lose 4-6 pvp ships per week. Still the 1 cov ops pilot never stopped "fighting". Now if they had been making statements "we are alive blah blah blah blah" (and they did once or twise :P) they would be completely ridiculous. The same holds truth for PA IF indeed the impression I have formed reading here is true.
Believe it or not, having the decency to admit when you are beaten (as an alliance not as an individual) is a virtue.
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Kalened
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:48:00 -
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Ok i'll throw out my prediction LOL.
In 2 weeks PA is gone.
In 3 weeks NBSI is gone.
In 5 weeks 5 is out of the north.
In 5 1/2 weeks FE begs G/IRON/RAZOR to allow them to stay. The answer comes in the form of a boot.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion Believe it or not, having the decency to admit when you are beaten (as an alliance not as an individual) is a virtue.
they didnt have that much last time they got spanked back to empire, i rather doubt they will this time.. but the reason for this is quite simple..
PA doesnt stand for anything..
There is no honour in their name, nothing to be proud of..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |

Zzazzt
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
PA doesnt stand for anything..
Punchbag Alliance... ____________________________________________
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sassinak
Originally by: ElCoCo sass you still play? 
yeah man \o/
i just got back the other day. 
Brummies ftl 
Welcome back to the fold Sass
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pacifica
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Crellion Believe it or not, having the decency to admit when you are beaten (as an alliance not as an individual) is a virtue.
they didnt have that much last time they got spanked back to empire, i rather doubt they will this time.. but the reason for this is quite simple..
PA doesnt stand for anything..
There is no honour in their name, nothing to be proud of..
PA do stand for some thing.. but face the Fact... we can t defend branch any more we did get hurt and never have the time to recover but it ok part of the game. as for .5. u was not able to do it alone.
U did need to bring Goon fleet and 2 or 3 other little alliance. babylone and dominion alliance to support... but it ok. .5. did what they need to break the north and they succed well FE fall first to them and PA & NBSI still resist.
Saying we didn fight ATUK or FIVE is not true. i look on kill mail and stat and for the number we are we do well.
ATM KaoS did see that and FE pay the price too.
KaoS didn t succed to get tenal FE get a lot of losing battle. So for my point of view FE did make a bad move and is move cost him alot.
Saying PA is dead is hard nothing can die in EvE. Saying PA will be in Empire maybe but did .5. was push in empire for 2 mounth... and are they dead.
Time will tell we just see the true color so far of our friend that it
Sorry for my typo i m not english.
Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game. |

thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.23 18:22:00 -
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Yes pacifica, PA's been so successful against us over the last months, we needed to blob you.. 
Can i take it from your statement that PA will be moving to tenal then?
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |

nickycakes
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Posted - 2006.02.23 18:34:00 -
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.5. was able to take over Branch with larger numbers, solid strategy, and good execution. During my time in PA I enjoyed the fights we had with .5. and friends.
I respect them for the simple reason that, although they smack, they back it up, unlike many many others (read: kia).
As for them needing goonfleet or whatever, from the fights that I saw the goon guys in, it seemed like they were just along for the ride, getting some pvp experience, etc.
It will be interesting to see what happens when .5. leaves and branch/venal become a FFA nightmare. Hopefully someones frapsing.
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TURBOman
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Posted - 2006.02.23 22:59:00 -
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Pacifica... talking about bigger numbers only makes you look stupid... why mention goonfeet anyways? there were FIVE (5) alliances including PA that war dec .5.(as in the five, only one alliance). That is PA/F-E/NBSI/SE/MC... and now it's only NBSI that still has war dec against us. So if couple of goonfleet flys with that means we need help ?? And that means that we couldn't handle it alone??? Get real dude and please if u do care so much about your alliance and in your eyes it is the greatest alliance or whatever... restrain yourself from posting crap on forums cuz it makes everyone that knows you look bad  Linkage [Yellow]Your sig is too large, please reduce it's size and have the ladies in it give me a call - Ductoris[/Yello |

Major Bandwidth
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Posted - 2006.02.23 23:04:00 -
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2006.02.23 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: TURBOman Pacifica... talking about bigger numbers only makes you look stupid... why mention goonfeet anyways? there were FIVE (5) alliances including PA that war dec .5.(as in the five, only one alliance). That is PA/F-E/NBSI/SE/MC... and now it's only NBSI that still has war dec against us. So if couple of goonfleet flys with that means we need help ?? And that means that we couldn't handle it alone??? Get real dude and please if u do care so much about your alliance and in your eyes it is the greatest alliance or whatever... restrain yourself from posting crap on forums cuz it makes everyone that knows you look bad 
omg i agreed with Turdoman! 
Saying we needed numbers to break you is laughable. You guys couldn't even take on atuk alone. But back then you could still cry we only had h-pa and nothing else. en we hid in npc stations. Ontop of giving us branch without a fight. You even let us scoop the large pos's you lot unanchor. truly end of the line for you lot.
Do yourself a favour, and stop talking. You thought you could bring us down when we left the south. We showed you how wrong u were. Served.
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2006.02.23 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: pacifica
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Crellion Believe it or not, having the decency to admit when you are beaten (as an alliance not as an individual) is a virtue.
they didnt have that much last time they got spanked back to empire, i rather doubt they will this time.. but the reason for this is quite simple..
PA doesnt stand for anything..
There is no honour in their name, nothing to be proud of..
PA do stand for some thing.. but face the Fact... we can t defend branch any more we did get hurt and never have the time to recover but it ok part of the game. as for .5. u was not able to do it alone.
U did need to bring Goon fleet and 2 or 3 other little alliance. babylone and dominion alliance to support... but it ok. .5. did what they need to break the north and they succed well FE fall first to them and PA & NBSI still resist.
Saying we didn fight ATUK or FIVE is not true. i look on kill mail and stat and for the number we are we do well.
ATM KaoS did see that and FE pay the price too.
KaoS didn t succed to get tenal FE get a lot of losing battle. So for my point of view FE did make a bad move and is move cost him alot.
Saying PA is dead is hard nothing can die in EvE. Saying PA will be in Empire maybe but did .5. was push in empire for 2 mounth... and are they dead.
Time will tell we just see the true color so far of our friend that it
Sorry for my typo i m not english.
stand for what exactly? Sass Arcane Technologies |

Monarch
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Posted - 2006.02.23 23:22:00 -
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You made a bad (bad as in horrible \ alliance ending) mistake when you war dec us. Worse even was all the **** you talked about us abandoning a pos war with the Russians. Few months later the only active part of PA is their mouths.
Enjoy empire am sure with every gleam of your T2 veldespar crystal you will look back an think "what if we would have just let sleeping dogs layö
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The End
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Posted - 2006.02.24 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Monarch You made a bad (bad as in horrible \ alliance ending) mistake when you war dec us. Worse even was all the **** you talked about us abandoning a pos war with the Russians. Few months later the only active part of PA is their mouths.
Enjoy empire am sure with every gleam of your T2 veldespar crystal you will look back an think "what if we would have just let sleeping dogs layö
i miss the original monarch 
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.02.24 02:17:00 -
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i just hope that pa have more dignity than those corps still clinging to the fa tag. and realise when their alliance is no more. STAN FACTA NON VERBA THE ALPS SUCKED BTW |

Monarch
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Posted - 2006.02.24 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: The End
Originally by: Monarch You made a bad (bad as in horrible \ alliance ending) mistake when you war dec us. Worse even was all the **** you talked about us abandoning a pos war with the Russians. Few months later the only active part of PA is their mouths.
Enjoy empire am sure with every gleam of your T2 veldespar crystal you will look back an think "what if we would have just let sleeping dogs layö
i miss the original monarch 
He sends his regards...
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Dungar Loghoth
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Posted - 2006.02.24 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: nickycakes As for them needing goonfleet or whatever, from the fights that I saw the goon guys in, it seemed like they were just along for the ride, getting some pvp experience, etc.
Exactly. [5] did not need the newbie corp from Syndicate to send a small portion of it's membership up north, but they invited us along up anyway, so our membership could learn. They were more patient than I could ever ask anyone to be, and I feel we got to know our friends in [5] much better, on a personal level.
If anyone thinks our fifty-some members and their frigates signifigantly changed the course of the war, they are completely out of touch with politics and the wars in the north.
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Electric Cucumber
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Posted - 2006.02.24 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Electric Cucumber on 24/02/2006 20:23:52
Originally by: pacifica KaoS didn t succed to get tenal
Why are you speaking as if the war in between KAOS and NBSI is over?
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