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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.11.04 11:06:00 -
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I seriously can't wait any longer for skyrim to come out. I love eve, don't get me wrong, but I have been an elderscolls fan since before eve was created. This new installment looks purely amazing with some of the features.
Only 1 more week to go and all I want is to storm Bethesda HQ and take a copy by force! It actaully amazes me how much anticipation I have for this game.
No real reason to post this, I just needed to say something to help release some pent up excitement.
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2011.11.04 14:16:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:I seriously can't wait any longer for skyrim to come out. I love eve, don't get me wrong, but I have been an elderscolls fan since before eve was created. This new installment looks purely amazing with some of the features.
Only 1 more week to go and all I want is to storm Bethesda HQ and take a copy by force! It actaully amazes me how much anticipation I have for this game.
No real reason to post this, I just needed to say something to help release some pent up excitement.
in all honesty, I'm waiting for xmas sale to buy skyrim, since I'm also expecting the game to be quite buggy, like everything betheseda on release date (did they fixed morrowind already?) [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.11.04 14:33:00 -
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Who said it isn't out?  |

Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.11.04 14:33:00 -
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Tobias Sjodin wrote:Who said it isn't out? 
awwwww dont tease me |

stoicfaux
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Posted - 2011.11.04 15:10:00 -
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I'll wait for the reviews. Between being burned on SotS II, Skyrim being a console port, and Oblivion being a slightly-above-"meh" game with some (rare) good moments, I've become cynical towards the gaming industry's ability to deliver quality.
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.11.04 15:13:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:I'll wait for the reviews. Between being burned on SotS II, Skyrim being a console port, and Oblivion being a slightly-above-"meh" game with some (rare) good moments, I've become cynical towards the gaming industry's ability to deliver quality.
oblivion meh? play it my way then, delete you character if you die no matter the cause. Adds a lot of thrill. |

Lithalnas
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.04 15:23:00 -
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even better, stuff oblivion full of mods to make it look good. Skyrim should be fine, just wait a few days. Infact I want you to beat Morrowind from a new game in the time between now and Skyrim. How to build a PC for EVE thread (by Akira T) http://eve-search.com/thread/1559734-0/page/1
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2011.11.04 15:35:00 -
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Lithalnas wrote:even better, stuff oblivion full of mods to make it look good.
Wait, now I should wait for the player mods to make Skyrim good as well? 
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.11.04 16:25:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Lithalnas wrote:even better, stuff oblivion full of mods to make it look good. Wait, now I should wait for the player mods to make Skyrim good as well? 
We can always hope, that they learned from their past mistakes and can now deliver a good, working game right from the start. Besides it won't take long before the small tweak mods hit the mod sites and you need to play the game first before you know what you want to mod about it, so there are no significant reasons delaying buying the game as long as you like the basic premise of it. |

F'lix
Shockwave Innovations
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Posted - 2011.11.04 16:32:00 -
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Cannot wait. Driving me nearly crazy. I have faith in Bethesdas ability, you cannot deny Oblivion was jaw-droppingly huge, I play my disks to death and didn't finish EVERYTHING.
Seriously. I want to hibernate for 1 week just to make it Nov 11th faster.
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
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Posted - 2011.11.04 17:05:00 -
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F'lix wrote:Cannot wait. Driving me nearly crazy. I have faith in Bethesdas ability, you cannot deny Oblivion was jaw-droppingly huge, I play my disks to death and didn't finish EVERYTHING.
Seriously. I want to hibernate for 1 week just to make it Nov 11th faster.
yea some of the the new things are just itching at me. Oblivion had one designer do all the dungeons, skyrim had 7. over 250 perks. Magic runes. crafting. some 150 dungeons. obviously dual wielding/casting. ARG |

F'lix
Shockwave Innovations
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Posted - 2011.11.04 17:10:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:F'lix wrote:Cannot wait. Driving me nearly crazy. I have faith in Bethesdas ability, you cannot deny Oblivion was jaw-droppingly huge, I play my disks to death and didn't finish EVERYTHING.
Seriously. I want to hibernate for 1 week just to make it Nov 11th faster.
yea some of the the new things are just itching at me. Oblivion had one designer do all the dungeons, skyrim had 7. over 250 perks. Magic runes. crafting. some 150 dungeons. obviously dual wielding/casting. ARG
The new perks system looks awesome, and finally a crafting system! Dual wield spells are definitely a big selling point for me...
My friends and I are having a release party. Yeah, we're that cool.  |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.11.04 17:33:00 -
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A short 3 hour preview of things to come for those who are interested. It's an enjoyable story on it's own and not a review, but gives some idea waht we can expect from the actual gameplay. |

KaarBaak
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Posted - 2011.11.04 17:41:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:stoicfaux wrote:I'll wait for the reviews. Between being burned on SotS II, Skyrim being a console port, and Oblivion being a slightly-above-"meh" game with some (rare) good moments, I've become cynical towards the gaming industry's ability to deliver quality.
oblivion meh? play it my way then, delete you character if you die no matter the cause. Adds a lot of thrill.
I thought I was the only one who thought Oblivion was 'meh.' Compared to Morrowind and even Daggerfall, it seemed positively claustrophobic it was so small.
I put well over a hundred hours into each of those. Oblivion yielded maybe 50.
I remain cautiously optimistic about Skyrim...simply due to the dearth of alternatives.
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okst666
Not Solitude Again Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2011.11.05 11:55:00 -
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KaarBaak wrote:
I put well over a hundred hours into each of those. Oblivion yielded maybe 50.
Then, you did it wrong. I've spent over 120h with oblivion (+shivering isles) [X] < Nail here for new monitor |

Logan LaMort
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2011.11.05 14:55:00 -
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okst666 wrote:KaarBaak wrote:
I put well over a hundred hours into each of those. Oblivion yielded maybe 50.
Then, you did it wrong. I've spent over 120h with oblivion (+shivering isles)
I think most would agree with me that the only way to play Oblivion right is with 100+ mods 
Last time I played Oblivion, it was completely open world, no loading screens between the outside and town, you could see everything far off in the distance, the textures were crisp, the enemies diverse and fun to fight... I could go on forever but it was a completely different game. |

Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2011.11.05 16:00:00 -
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I never finished Oblivion, it was dragging too much. No mods though.
The thing that really killed it (for me) was the NPC skill + items upgrade keeping pace as you level up. End result was common bandits with high level items - dispatching them is tedious work. Leveling becomes almost pointless. Fail game mechanics from the player perspective. I recall they fixed that in some patches, but by that time, I wasn't really interested in running Oblivion.
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Holy One
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2011.11.06 07:48:00 -
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On the subject of Skyrim, almost nobody seems to me raging about the fact it requires steam to run. |

Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.06 07:59:00 -
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Steam rage is so 2009.
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Holy One
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2011.11.06 08:03:00 -
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Shivus Tao wrote:Steam rage is so 2009.
Never forget. |

Florio
Miniature Giant Space Hamsters
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Posted - 2011.11.06 10:11:00 -
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Lithalnas wrote:Infact I want you to beat Morrowind from a new game in the time between now and Skyrim. I think the record is just under quarter of an hour to beat Morrowind from a new game according to Youtube? Start off with an alchemy character and steal some good equipment and you're set.
In any case, what has me concerned with Skyrim is those forest paths along with the protagonist runs or gallops in the reviews. Take a close look at them - they really don't look like you can deviate away from them. So we may have something that is much more of a corridor shooter/linear in many cases than we would want it to be. Thus the elder scrolls series of games may be going the way of CoD games. |

Holy One
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2011.11.06 11:47:00 -
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Florio wrote:Lithalnas wrote:Infact I want you to beat Morrowind from a new game in the time between now and Skyrim. I think the record is just under quarter of an hour to beat Morrowind from a new game according to Youtube? Start off with an alchemy character and steal some good equipment and you're set. In any case, what has me concerned with Skyrim is those forest paths along with the protagonist runs or gallops in the reviews. Take a close look at them - they really don't look like you can deviate away from them. So we may have something that is much more of a corridor shooter/linear in many cases than we would want it to be. Thus the elder scrolls series of games may be going the way of CoD games.
I'm sure that won't be the case tbh. Altho in retrospect, NV was like that; very linear really. It didn't detract from a great game .. |

Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.06 18:53:00 -
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I've built a cardboard dragon in my garage where I've been practicing my slaying.
11th can't come soon enough! |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.11.06 19:07:00 -
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Holy One wrote:Florio wrote:Lithalnas wrote:Infact I want you to beat Morrowind from a new game in the time between now and Skyrim. I think the record is just under quarter of an hour to beat Morrowind from a new game according to Youtube? Start off with an alchemy character and steal some good equipment and you're set. In any case, what has me concerned with Skyrim is those forest paths along with the protagonist runs or gallops in the reviews. Take a close look at them - they really don't look like you can deviate away from them. So we may have something that is much more of a corridor shooter/linear in many cases than we would want it to be. Thus the elder scrolls series of games may be going the way of CoD games. I'm sure that won't be the case tbh. Altho in retrospect, NV was like that; very linear really. It didn't detract from a great game ..
It can't be like that, since they've said in many interviews, that you can go to every place you see. You see a mountain top in the distance, that is within the game map, and you can go there. NV wasn't made by bethesda. It was done by obsidian, so the restrictions it had don't mean much. I don't see why it would be any different from oblivion or morrowind. In both you could go where you wanted and people loved that, so why would they change it? Also the game has been played for a long time now and none of the people who have tried it have said anything to indicate it has such restrictions or railroading outside getting the main quest started. |

Hyacinthous
Sibyl Cadre
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Posted - 2011.11.06 22:02:00 -
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That's the majority of fun people had with TES games, you didn't have to play the main storyline AT ALL - you could simply go from town to town and loot and destroy all the houses and sell the stuff to fences, which is pretty much what I do in my TES games. I don't even bother with the storyline, I just get a' lootin and a' scootin until I am strong enough in game to beat the town guards, then I kill them.
I have a feeling skyrim is going to be different than my last ventures into TES though, the systems are robust and have adapted to the needs of the world around it. The BIGGEST complaints in morrowind were the fighting system - it was so clunky it was very difficult to use for the most part, it wasn't enjoyable. They've fixed that, another complaint was also the skill system, they've fixed that too.
The amount of immersion in the game has far surpassed that of its predecessors, its gone from just picking some mushrooms off the ground to literally plucking the butterfly's out of the sky and eating them/mixing them into alchemy.
Skyrim is going to be great and I can't wait to get my copy. BF3 will even have a hard time getting me back. And Eve? Distant memory until the winter expansion. |

Berendas
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.11.07 01:49:00 -
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I've been a TES fanatic since Morrowind. I loved the lore, the world, the music, and every aspect of that game, but my faith was somewhat shaken with Oblivion. It was a great game on its own to be sure, but it did not come close meeting the standard set by Morrowind. Bethesda seems to have taken in a lot of player feedback into Skyrim's development and I can't wait to see how they've stepped up their game.
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DOVAHKIIN! |

VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.07 08:27:00 -
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Argonian, one hander and shield, lockpicking and alchemy. No sneak, lockpick is just to barge in where I please.
I always like to lean on the action side of action RPG's. Go combat in places where you're supposed to 'go around' it with stealth or diplomacy checks set low or some alternate path made available. Just walk right in and win the fight.
Sometimes you run into that wall where you weren't supposed to fight THAT much. Like in Deus Ex HR when I cleared the three science buildings in massive gun fights, but the three hostage scientists wouldn't leave until I wen tthrough the story triggers for them to sneak past all the dead guards and make a daring escape. I expect Skyrim to be better, but I still worry.
Sucks I work next weekend, three 12hr shifts no less. Might have to try and get out of work on Friday.
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KaarBaak
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Posted - 2011.11.07 12:25:00 -
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I'm seeing a lot of the same regarding Steam. It appears that the system requirements include 'Steam account required for activation" but even tha is unclear.
After watching more trailers, I've decided to pass on Skyrim for now. It's being advertised primarily as a console ame, which leads me to believe that the shortcomings in Oblivion are going to be even mor magnified in this iteration. "consolification" IMO is the definition of "dumbing-down" a game...not because of content, but because the game has to e designed around a small, handheld controller rather than mouse/keyboard, thus limiting the fine-tunability of gameplay. Hints of that appeared in Oblivion...certain parts just felt like I was using the wrong controls (kb/mouse).
A little disappointed, but meh...it's $60 I don't have to spend.
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Holy One
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2011.11.07 17:59:00 -
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VKhaun Vex wrote:Argonian, one hander and shield, lockpicking and alchemy. No sneak, lockpick is just to barge in where I please. I always like to lean on the action side of action RPG's. Go combat in places where you're supposed to 'go around' it with stealth or diplomacy checks set low or some alternate path made available. Just walk right in and win the fight. Sometimes you run into that wall where you weren't supposed to fight THAT much. Like in Deus Ex HR when I cleared the three science buildings in massive gun fights, but the three hostage scientists wouldn't leave until I wen tthrough the story triggers for them to sneak past all the dead guards and make a daring escape. I expect Skyrim to be better, but I still worry. Sucks I work next weekend, three 12hr shifts no less. Might have to try and get out of work on Friday. Holy One wrote:On the subject of Skyrim, almost nobody seems to me raging about the fact it requires steam to run. Are we certain of this? There are a lot of people out there who assume this about STEAM games, but the vast majority of games in my STEAM library are just shortcuts. I can browse to the files and launch their .exe files without steam running with no issues. Nothing stops me from putting a new shortcut to these on my desktop with a simple right click and never interact with STEAM again. Mostly it's just Valve games played online that require me to start up steam, since they use STEAM ID's to connect to things and VAC to try and stop cheating etc, but I'm not at home to test every one of them. Can you link me something that says you have to be running steam to start up the game? All I'm getting out of google are other forum rants and articles stating steam is their digital distributor.
No. I don't have steam installed and never will have. In the past though I have had to tolerate the usual panopoly of steamosexuality:
Forced updates Offline mode 'con' Resource hog Spyware - reports everything you do, and a lot you don't. Perversion of retail rights ie. renting access vs purchasing a license to the software outright. I'm paying $40 to be Valve's 'advertising partner' and give them all my 'demographic data'. Forever? Sounds like a bargain! DRM (nuff said) etc etc etc
There are just a few reasons why I hate steam and will never install it. I'm sure there's plenty more .. but I cba to actually :effort: on the subject tbh. Its pretty obvious why people hate steam and prefer to use 'other means' to access software they paid for (or didn't).
And re: the lack of clarity about skyrim needing steam to 'activate'; the reality is you need steam installed and running every time you want to play Skyrim. It usually goes something like this:
1. You have to Steam to launch Skyrim. Offline mode? Sure. Until it 'expires'. 2. Steam needs an update, WAIT atleast 44 minutes... 3. Steam doesn't recognize my computer (and then say I must be using a different one /WHAT???/ when I login using the same info every time) Wait, What? 4. Steam sends countless verification emails that I must log into my email and copy codes from and paste them in order to use the SAME password and email that I've been using. I have only had these issues with Steam, no one else. 5. Die of boredom and rage |

Holy One
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2011.11.07 18:03:00 -
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VKhaun Vex wrote:Argonian, one hander and shield, lockpicking and alchemy. No sneak, lockpick is just to barge in where I please..
The skeleton key is back. So lockpicking will be a worthless skill to spend perks on in Skyrim. 
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