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StenchWeasel
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.18 16:12:00 -
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This suggestion seems like it might only benefit me because I have this odd thing I'll call "unwilling to lrn2genocide internet spaceships crew syndrome" UL2ISCS for short.
Back when I started eve the concept of crew was up in the air, leaning towards none, and I was quite happy to pilot large pieces of tritanium and have them divided into smaller pieces of tritanium buy other peoples pieces of space going tritanium.
Now CCP has settled on the idea of crews, and this initializes my UL2ISCS, and that has a negative effect on the local tritanium market and several other ore types too, not to mention Module, weapon and ammunition sales.
The solution Simple give me an option to select Droid Crews, and I would like a small drop in efficiency in something just so I know they there. Although even an inactive check box somewhere would cut it, lol. then I would also like it to show up on my info. "Uses Droid Crews" And then its just me my pod and a whole lot of tritanium and I'm happy 
the above would sort me out but to take it further....... Other ideas
- A skill to lessen the loss of efficiency the droids cause
- Upgradeable parts to the droids to effectively move the loss of efficiency around, say capacitor to shields
- A simple little screen to fit them
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Qweasdy
Absolute Massive Destruction Cult of War
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Posted - 2013.11.18 16:23:00 -
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Ummm what? If I'm reading you right you want an option to make your ship worse so you can have some flavour text? |

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
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Posted - 2013.11.18 16:23:00 -
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I believe CCP has decided that the notion of crew is (for now, at least) going to remain an element of lore rather than an actual game mechanic. Feel free to consider all of your crew to be droids, bizarre mutant fedos, anthropomorphic slaver hounds or even genetically-altered furriers if you wish - although I must strongly advise extreme caution before considering a crew of genetically-altered furriers. They tend to chew their way through bulkheads and devour other creatures. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
617
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Posted - 2013.11.18 16:28:00 -
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StenchWeasel wrote:This suggestion seems like it might only benefit me because I have this odd thing I'll call "unwilling to lrn2genocide internet spaceships crew syndrome" UL2ISCS for short. Back when I started eve the concept of crew was up in the air, leaning towards none, and I was quite happy to pilot large pieces of tritanium and have them divided into smaller pieces of tritanium buy other peoples pieces of space going tritanium. Now CCP has settled on the idea of crews, and this initializes my UL2ISCS, and that has a negative effect on the local tritanium market and several other ore types too, not to mention Module, weapon and ammunition sales. The solutionSimple give me an option to select Droid Crews, and I would like a small drop in efficiency in something just so I know they there. Although even an inactive check box somewhere would cut it, lol. then I would also like it to show up on my info. "Uses Droid Crews" And then its just me my pod and a whole lot of tritanium and I'm happy  the above would sort me out but to take it further....... Other ideas
- A skill to lessen the loss of efficiency the droids cause
- Upgradeable parts to the droids to effectively move the loss of efficiency around, say capacitor to shields
- A simple little screen to fit them
But but they have ESCAPE PODS... It's perfectly safe. HONEST! (+ö_+ö) Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
1118
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Posted - 2013.11.18 16:30:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:But but they have ESCAPE PODS... It's perfectly safe. HONEST! (+ö_+ö)
This is true. They do have escape pods and they do usually result in the crew safely escaping the ship before it's blown to bits.
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StenchWeasel
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.18 17:26:00 -
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Quote:Ummm what? If I'm reading you right you want an option to make your ship worse so you can have some flavour text? Worse sure, but much more kamikaze-able for me  Hell I'd be happy to pay 10 million extra per ship to fit them even, just make the human crew gone!
Quote:But but they have ESCAPE PODS... It's perfectly safe. HONEST! (+ö_+ö) CCP made that advert with 100,000's of crew loose their lives daily...with a child and mother etc.... Yep...see, that didn't work for me. Syndrome I said! |

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
1118
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Posted - 2013.11.18 17:28:00 -
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You could always stick to flying frigates. Capsuleer-compatible frigates usually don't tend to have any crew. |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
363
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Posted - 2013.11.18 17:28:00 -
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StenchWeasel wrote: Now CCP has settled on the idea of crews, and this initializes my UL2ISCS, and that has a negative effect on the local tritanium market and several other ore types too, not to mention Module, weapon and ammunition sales.
CCP choosing crews as part of the lore has nothing to do with the markets unless you think significant numbers of people are as crazy as you. Fighting is Magic |

Reese Armgo
Solaris Project Border World Enterprises
13
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Posted - 2013.11.18 17:49:00 -
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StenchWeasel wrote:Quote:Ummm what? If I'm reading you right you want an option to make your ship worse so you can have some flavour text? Worse sure, but much more kamikaze-able for me  Hell I'd be happy to pay 10 million extra per ship to fit them even, just make the human crew gone! Quote:But but they have ESCAPE PODS... It's perfectly safe. HONEST! (+ö_+ö) CCP made that advert with 100,000's of crew loose their lives daily...with a child and mother etc.... Yep...see, that didn't work for me. Syndrome I said!
Only 100000?
I would wager these lifes are lost in a single level 4 mission alone, sure they are criminals but who knows how many orphans they leave!
In the end there are only 3 types of enemys that are okay to kill:
Drones, like rogue-¦s and sleepers. Sansha, because they are like the Borg anyway. And Gallente, because they are born Evil. |

Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
843
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Posted - 2013.11.18 19:06:00 -
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I honestly like the way CCP has crews set up.
As a lore nerd, it really hammers home the idea that capsuleers are sociopathic powermongers every time someone pops up and says "Wait, my ship has a crew on it?" Reinforces the inherent disconnect podders have from the rest of the universe.
As for the "things OK to kill" from above post..
Drones: You're murdering a sapient intelligence simply because we cannot communicate with them Sansha: 99% of Sansha are slaves, being remotely controlled by implants. They're innocent. Gallente: Wait....Gallente are real people? The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
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Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
1926
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Posted - 2013.11.18 19:13:00 -
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So what about the crews of all the other ships you kill, be they rats or players? They're not droids. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.11.18 19:28:00 -
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Are we really having a conversation about the morality of killing space pixel people who aren't even pictured/named who may or may not actually be there anyways?
At this rate, in another year F&I will be full fledged GD. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
1926
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Posted - 2013.11.18 19:56:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Are we really having a conversation about the morality of killing space pixel people who aren't even pictured/named who may or may not actually be there anyways?
At this rate, in another year F&I will be full fledged GD.
HEY. Ensign Ricky is a valued member of my crew, and if it wasn't for his tireless work in...chicken soup dispenser maintenance, the HMS BonerHitler would be in serious trouble! |

StenchWeasel
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.18 21:50:00 -
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Quote:Are we really having a conversation about the morality of killing space pixel people who aren't even pictured/named who may or may not actually be there anyways?
At this rate, in another year F&I will be full fledged GD. Yep this will mean the difference between me sending carriers and dreads out to get one shotted by the first rookie ship they meet or not. And really it seems like it will only be be clicking the check box so letmehavzit!
Do you want to meet a Phoenix fitted with missile launcher 1's or not?? |

NearNihil
Every time is Fuwa time
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Posted - 2013.11.18 22:14:00 -
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I like to think that my crew consists entirely of holograms conjured by my capsuleer's mind, which are then fed to a supercomputer in the pod bay inside the ship. The kind of hologram you can literally bump into, and isn't so much light but rather an actual, "real" figment of the mind.
I can make them look funny too, it's rather entertaining. In a The Sims kind of way. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
617
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Posted - 2013.11.18 22:25:00 -
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StenchWeasel wrote:Quote:Ummm what? If I'm reading you right you want an option to make your ship worse so you can have some flavour text? Worse sure, but much more kamikaze-able for me  Hell I'd be happy to pay 10 million extra per ship to fit them even, just make the human crew gone! Quote:But but they have ESCAPE PODS... It's perfectly safe. HONEST! (+ö_+ö) CCP made that advert with 100,000's of crew loose their lives daily...with a child and mother etc.... Yep...see, that didn't work for me. Syndrome I said! Lies, enemy propagande, completely unbased ACCUSATIONS!
No capsuleer would ever buy let alone fly a ship that wasn't COMPLETELY safe for it's crew. Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

Bischopt
Arbitrary Repossession
382
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Posted - 2013.11.19 00:08:00 -
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Just kill all the crews. All of 'em!
Blood and guts and crying orphan children. Oh the humanity!
Seriously though, unless you're roleplaying I don't see why you would care so much. There's no game mechanics for any kind of crews, it's all in your mind. I can understand what you're talking about though. Pretty sure my brother suffered from the same thing back when he was trying Eve. It's just that there's nothing in the game related to crews. No content, no modules, nothing. Implementing ...something because somebody feels bad about killing non-existent crews on internet spaceships seems very, very silly. |

Shedao Acami
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:16:00 -
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I want to see a statistic of how many crew i lose when i die. Also i want to know how many widows and orphans are made. |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
3650
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:01:00 -
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Shedao Acami wrote:I want to see a statistic of how many crew i lose when i die.  Also i want to know how many widows and orphans are made.  https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Eden_crew_guidelines
Grab a calculator and browse though your lossmails.
I'm pretty sure I've lost about 15 million crewmembes over the past 4 years.... but only also pretty sure I've killed well over 50 million enemy/hostile crews.  Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

CTPAWHOE DHUWE
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:32:00 -
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I has 60 bil is for rat killing, coz a rat gime me 500000 isk i kill 120k rats with avg 1000 people in each, 20% of them are survived.
This mean that i murder about 100 millions of mans, and that means that i greatest murderer evar, greatest than Stalin and Churchill and a renowned austrian artist together.
And i proud of this. CAREBEARS MUST SUFFER |
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