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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:47:00 -
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I agree wholeheartedly. The first step is to punch holes in the veils of secrecy and disinformation that these organizations have pulled over everyone. I'm sure there are many people who think that ethics and fairness are worthy things and are feeling a bit uncomfortable with their corp's or alliances.
Speak up about it. This kind of slime and corruption grows best in the dark.
I've little knowledge about any organzation but the Fountain Alliance but I've just started a thread about that HERE. Feel free to make comment here or there.
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:07:00 -
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Will this not just be another alliance, just like the rest of them?
To make an alliance against alliances 
I can't wait for the aliance to tackle the new one....
Styrmir, you have said the magic words. The words fortold of old...(melodramatic enough?)
The simple fact is that any organization that truly wants to correct the problem instead of eventually becoming the problem must have some very serious checks and balances built in from the beginning (and it will seem very silly to go to those lengths *against* your friends and compatriots) and even more that kick in when it's even remotely successful.
"Money is the root of all evil." And old statement that scratches the truth. POWER is the real root of corruption. It's a soul destroying corrosive that can only be checked by those self same checks and balances.
I choose to believe that every alliance started with a desire to do good. But power is a powerful tonic, a heady wine, the scent of desire. And under it's influence the most powerful parts of our psyche come to the fore.
Self delusion. Almost every dictator that is or was on the planet started out believing they were doing good. Many of them believed it even while the masses bemoaned their fate. Some believed it to the end and were gone in confusion not knowing why they had been turned on.
Belief is nice. Proof is better. Feel free to believe as you wish but if proof isn't freely forthcoming don't say you weren't warned.
Only work with those you trust. Do the paperwork like your dealing with an archenemy. Because you very well may be. Your setting things up to survive your tenure. And you don't know who will replace your replacement so take heed in the design.
Last but not least: Never forget that the most dangerous person in the world is he who does it for your own good. ...Which is what all here are preparing to do...
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:18:00 -
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Also as i am part of a 'mega corp', EV has over 200 members, i dont see what people are concerned about. To be a mega corp you have to have a well planned and practiced structure and treat your members well. You cant have 200 members if you treat them badly
But you can have 200 happy members while making life miserable for 1000 others.
I find it very saddening that you don't see what others are concerned about. Does the fact that so many others are concerned not make you wonder why your blind in this direction? The simple fact that so many are concerned should tell you there's some kind of problem.
<laugh> Perhaps you've been blinded by success or perhaps by the glare of the pile of isk's...
The sad thing is: Over all the world, time after time, pulling people up with you eventually makes everyone greater that is possible for one who walks on others. It's just quicker to get up early by climbing on others.
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:21:00 -
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Long story short; if you are too lazy to run a corporation and too*****y to join one, then don't expect a similar level of prosperity.
It takes dedication and commitment to run a corporation, and a bit of humility and work ethic to give up the "Johnny Superstar" attitude and join one - those who do either are rewarded and they should be.
No argument at all. But I would like to add that many don't want that level of prosperity. They want to accomplish things without being the doormat for others.
Is that so terrible a desire?
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