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FragSyndrome	Posted - 2006.02.23 09:53:00 - [1] What setup do you think would be effective for suicide bombing haulers? Since you're going to lose the ship, lets try to keep it to a cruiser or any race with standard modules and low skills to fly. In fact if it could be done on a trail account then yatzee! Share your terrorist wisdom with me!
Haram Zada	Posted - 2006.02.23 10:51:00 - [2] Raven with all launchers and sensor boosters Alt with hauler and cargo scanner. Passivly scan all haulers entering in and as soon as you find one with exclusive cargo (such as 40k zyd or t2 BPOs or whatever) just pop him with the raven, Concord will get the raven and your alt hauler will pick up the loot.
Trevedian	Posted - 2006.02.23 14:08:00 - [3] Ravens will not work, the sentry guns will actually shoot your missles/torps... An Armageddon with all large smartbombs should do the trick, place the smartbombs in sequence so as to maximize their damage. Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
M00dy	Posted - 2006.02.23 16:00:00 - [4] I wouldn't recomend smartbombs. It will prolly pop the pod and the loot. Try not to kill the pod as that will make your sec rating go down too quickly.
RedClaws	Posted - 2006.02.23 16:15:00 - [5] damn you ppl! One of you guys popped a hauler with about 4 bil in minerals in it. Harsh lesson but we learned :p
Scorpyn	Posted - 2006.02.23 16:55:00 - [6] Originally by: Trevedian Ravens will not work, the sentry guns will actually shoot your missles/torps... An Armageddon with all large smartbombs should do the trick, place the smartbombs in sequence so as to maximize their damage. Are you sure? I haven't seen that happen since they removed the ability to acquire a target lock on missiles, and I've been using missiles near sentries quite a lot since then (not while flagged in 0.5+ though). _____________________________________ meep meep
blober	Posted - 2006.02.23 17:11:00 - [7] Originally by: Scorpyn Originally by: Trevedian Ravens will not work, the sentry guns will actually shoot your missles/torps... An Armageddon with all large smartbombs should do the trick, place the smartbombs in sequence so as to maximize their damage. Are you sure? I haven't seen that happen since they removed the ability to acquire a target lock on missiles, and I've been using missiles near sentries quite a lot since then (not while flagged in 0.5+ though). Yup you can test it with snow ball launchers
FragSyndrome	Posted - 2006.02.23 18:35:00 - [8] Do you think there's a way to do this in a cruiser? Maybe a caracal with heavy launchers and shield extenders?
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.02.23 18:51:00 - [9] Originally by: FragSyndrome Do you think there's a way to do this in a cruiser? Maybe a caracal with heavy launchers and shield extenders? I doubt it very much unless you arent at a gate or station coz sent guns would kill you damm fast in a cruiser.
Espen	Posted - 2006.02.23 20:25:00 - [10] Raven is perfect for this, sentery will not shoot your torps afaik. Smartbomb setup is is very stupid imo, if you planing on doing it more then once.

FragSyndrome	Posted - 2006.02.23 21:15:00 - [11] how about 2 caracals with heavies? The points is to spend as little as possible. 2 caracals = 2x the firepower, 2x the hitpoints, 2x survival time.
Nimie	Posted - 2006.02.23 21:40:00 - [12] Edited by: Nimie on 23/02/2006 21:43:34 Originally by: FragSyndrome how about 2 caracals with heavies? The points is to spend as little as possible. 2 caracals = 2x the firepower, 2x the hitpoints, 2x survival time. a caracal will only do about 750 a volley and you'll only get one volley with an unskilled pilet. an indy flown by a no skill pilot will have about 2k hp before resistances so you'll generally need at least 3 cruisers for it to have a chance to work. if the indy pilot has some skills and actually puts some defensive modules on his ship, you may need a good deal more. you should note that a torp raven does 3 times as much damage per missle and has one more missle slot plus 2 more turret slots. by itself, it is already over 4-5 caracels in attack power. add in missle skills, bs skills and more low slots and you have over 6 caracels in one.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.02.23 22:10:00 - [13] Go with smartbombs, you're going to have a hard time torping an indy with a raven if it has some reists imo, and anyone who transports a t2 BPO in an indy deserves to lose it. I'd be transporting that thing in a 15k+ shieled ferox with a friend or 2 flying wing with remote shield boosters and shield boosting drones. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Scorpyn	Posted - 2006.02.23 22:34:00 - [14] Originally by: blober Originally by: Scorpyn Originally by: Trevedian Ravens will not work, the sentry guns will actually shoot your missles/torps... An Armageddon with all large smartbombs should do the trick, place the smartbombs in sequence so as to maximize their damage. Are you sure? I haven't seen that happen since they removed the ability to acquire a target lock on missiles, and I've been using missiles near sentries quite a lot since then (not while flagged in 0.5+ though). Yup you can test it with snow ball launchers That comment makes no sense since snowball launchers won't make you flagged. It would be the equivalent of having the sentries shoot you for attacking npcs. Are you sure you've actually tried this? _____________________________________ meep meep
Neon Genesis	Posted - 2006.02.24 02:10:00 - [15] Suicide bombers rules. 1. Cloak. 2. as many cruise launchers as possible. 3. as many dampeners as possible. 4. as many Low slot items you need to fit the above/incease speed/locking. There, i just contributed nothing to your thread
Heikki	Posted - 2006.02.24 13:47:00 - [16] Geddon. Highs 8xnamed smarties (3xEM, 5xExp) Rest for fittings (cpus) and tanks to buy time (1600mm, extenderds). Have an alt (with a hauler or cargo cruiser + sensor boosters) to scan potential targets along the path. Wait at the front of the gate, 10-30km away.. Smartie up when the ship lands on you, or warps past. Stop smarties after the kill to avoid podkills (smarties wont harm loot cans nor stargates). Laugh evilly at the concord. Have your alt to pick the lone T2 BPC from the can. -Lasse
DoMxj	Posted - 2006.02.24 13:54:00 - [17] We used to do this often back in MF days around yulai The gang was 4xcaracals at least(maybe more dont remember), full loaded for dmg at least 2 ships with cargo scanners so u dont suicide on the wrong inty and another pilot in an inty to collect the loot was a good plan to get some money for the a pirate corp many times killed inty's with 10-15-40k of zyd. Using anything but a cruiser for this job is stupid
Xoria Krint	Posted - 2006.02.24 14:47:00 - [18] Originally by: Trevedian Ravens will not work, the sentry guns will actually shoot your missles/torps... An Armageddon with all large smartbombs should do the trick, place the smartbombs in sequence so as to maximize their damage. Ravens does work. ---- Space Invader \| Unknown \| Xoria Krint
Arelius Ceasar	Posted - 2006.02.25 00:20:00 - [19] Originally by: DoMxj We used to do this often back in MF days around yulai The gang was 4xcaracals at least(maybe more dont remember), full loaded for dmg at least 2 ships with cargo scanners so u dont suicide on the wrong inty and another pilot in an inty to collect the loot was a good plan to get some money for the a pirate corp many times killed inty's with 10-15-40k of zyd. Using anything but a cruiser for this job is stupid Why, if I would get most of my money back from insurance on the Raven?
Scorpyn	Posted - 2006.02.26 05:57:00 - [20] Originally by: Arelius Ceasar Originally by: DoMxj We used to do this often back in MF days around yulai The gang was 4xcaracals at least(maybe more dont remember), full loaded for dmg at least 2 ships with cargo scanners so u dont suicide on the wrong inty and another pilot in an inty to collect the loot was a good plan to get some money for the a pirate corp many times killed inty's with 10-15-40k of zyd. Using anything but a cruiser for this job is stupid Why, if I would get most of my money back from insurance on the Raven? 1. Don't forget about the cost of insurance - you will still lose lots of isk just on that 2. With a group of cruisers, costing a lot less than a battleship, you are also able to use a lot more warp disruptors and webbers 3. It's a lot more difficult to counter 25 missiles than it is to counter 6 missiles (although they will probably be so close to the target that it won't really matter that much anyway). Provided that there is a group, of course. _____________________________________ meep meep

trust trd	Posted - 2006.03.01 18:10:00 - [21] Can a cargo scanner see the contents of a container in the cargo?


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