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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.02.28 15:43:00 -
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i dont need help from you you caldari pig
:P STAN FACTA NON VERBA THE ALPS SUCKED BTW |

Exus
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Posted - 2006.02.28 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Raaki Exus,
Maybe you should change your corp name to Try Dying. 
whoah yeah! good idea! ill suggest it to my leaders :D but i still prefer die trying, makes more noobish u know |

Crellion
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:23:00 -
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while having spent all my 0.0 time in eve in opppsite camps I wish once more to express gratitude for what Mythos and Maza/maza nostra stand for. I am really proud of you guys. gratz
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.28 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion while having spent all my 0.0 time in eve in opppsite camps I wish once more to express gratitude for what Mythos and Maza/maza nostra stand for. I am really proud of you guys. gratz
roids and NPC's all over eve are hating you right now for your support of these ebil corps..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |

Crellion
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Posted - 2006.02.28 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 28/02/2006 17:23:19
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Crellion while having spent all my 0.0 time in eve in opppsite camps I wish once more to express gratitude for what Mythos and Maza/maza nostra stand for. I am really proud of you guys. gratz
roids and NPC's all over eve are hating you right now for your support of these ebil corps..
Lol Toth cant I praise my RL country men for 5 secs here without receiving smack from my &*^*)%)*&% allies ffs 
Not to mention I hate npcs too now and then and when I was a wee lad I even had fights with teh roids 
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.28 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion
Lol Toth cant I praise my RL country men for 5 secs here without receiving smack from my &*^*)%)*&% allies ffs 
NO!!!!!! mwahahahahahahahahaha 

--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |

Dahin
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:57:00 -
[187]
yes, we are ebil. please love us long time.
<3 Crellion, <3 killing infant baby seals.
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2006.03.01 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Crellion
Lol Toth cant I praise my RL country men for 5 secs here without receiving smack from my &*^*)%)*&% allies ffs 
NO!!!!!! mwahahahahahahahahaha 

I would post a link to that video (you know which one ) but it's late at night and i can't bother finding it.
Just a hint...if you want to be an elitist you can't afford to be seen with stabbies on your zealot in an EvE vid. Leave that to us non-uber, poor people who haven't experienced strong leadership and have trouble replacing HACs 
As for you....
Originally by: Endeva
Originally by: Mortuus Thoc, reading is good. I am not PA. I'm just explaining why PA aren't dead. And yes, it is true ATUK wouldn't still be in the area if there weren't NPC stations. Becuase then it would have been worth fighting to remove you from H-PA and your PoS would have been taken. When you can just sit in an NPC station it becomes pointless to fight to kill your PoS.
hi i am most retarded person in eve, arent you MOrtuus? you always searchin some reason why are we stil here why we kick your ass and why are we soo uber.NPC stations doesnt have nothing with that.you HAD 3 alliances fighting againt us and you pay MC to fight us to.when i say us it was only atuk and few delta and other members,shinra and m.corp left us.and with you bloobed us /with 4 alliances all the time you lose all.you had 3 beautiful friend alliaces here and now one is with us and Second is dieing and in a month or two nbsi will also be evicted to empire.you need realize to beat us in game stop making some stupid idea that omg npc stations save them... and play game.if you wanna whine all the time you lose something go play other game. and btw i remember all the SILLY post your all making in the begingin of the war how are we dead alliance,how are we sitting at the pos or station all the time and we are TRApped and docked in h-pa.and guess what i cant believe someone docked can make this mess like we did now here.the only problem with your alliances is propaganda and your CEOs lied to your n00b members that you are winning in this war / while atuk kick you ass in fleets fights.
...the only time i happened across you, you were in a hauler and telling me it was bad of me to camp you with my vaga. Does that mean you're no good for PvP? Probably not, you could be one of the best pilots in game, but i have seen you only once and you were flying an indy. I could just say that i have never seen you in a combat ship and it would be true, because appearances can be deceiving. Most of the people who were saying that [5] was dead were PA and FE, we had a no smack policy at the time. So put down your flamethrower and stop generalising. 
We might not have the biggest blobs and the best pilots in the game, but if being good at this will make me sound like some of you guys, then i prefer to be mediocre and keep from loosing my marbles over a bunch of pixels.
The main reason some people left NBSI was that they were bored senseless with you up there and wanted fresh targets, make of that what you wish but it is true. In fact, we were talking about the whole of NBSI abandoning tenal and moving somewhere south. I'm not saying you don't fight, i'm just saying your fighting style (with all the assorted smack,publicity stunts and what not) was boring most of us to tears, not to mention that most of your members are active on a certain timezone, while ours were spread among several.
You bet we went to gank people in the south, were we supposed to wait until you all log back in so that the FE leadership won't throw a tantrum? Not to mention that whenever there was some sort of fight and we were asking what to bring, 9 times out of 10 FE would say "don't get involved".
Most of the arguments against NBSI don't add up under closer scrutiny. Just be honest like grown up men and say you got a personal vendetta and want to kill NBSI.
Originally by: Black Lotus I vote u for KIA spokesperson.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.03.01 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
I would post a link to that video (you know which one ) but it's late at night and i can't bother finding it.
Just a hint...if you want to be an elitist you can't afford to be seen with stabbies on your zealot in an EvE vid. Leave that to us non-uber, poor people who haven't experienced strong leadership and have trouble replacing HACs 
i wasnt worried about replacing the zealot.. a m8 had the BPO :)
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |

Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.01 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
The main reason some people left NBSI was that they were bored senseless with you up there and wanted fresh targets, make of that what you wish but it is true.
I thought you left because you didn't want to have to set F-E's mining corp's to + standings.
I guess you're reasons for leaving depends on which thread and who posted it (IE blame FE when convient).
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.01 04:18:00 -
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Edited by: pershphanie on 01/03/2006 04:20:12
Originally by: Sextus Licinius
Great post, one thing tho PA is not dead yet and currently has around 100 active members from former 180 (with carebears). Was that one of the smallest alliance controlling 2 great regions Venal and Branch? I think so. I doubt PA will disband for so little tho, this post reflects only my 2 cents nothing more.
To answer thot, any alliance that doesn't disband after loosing their player owned stations are called pirates? Do you even know what pirate mean, cause you seem to play with terms you don't quite understand. BKG was not the capital system of PA, it was the "Rome" of carebears and was enough for someone to want that space to get it (that was classified information a while ago :D ).
Think you missed the point. Buz words like 'pirate' or 'freedom fighter' are irrelevent. The point was not that PA was dead because it lost a station or it is hemeraging members and corps. PA as an alliance simply doesnt work. Due to several circumstances (out of allies to prop it up, a reputation burned to the point where it will never get good new corps/players recruited into the alliance again, etc) it is way beyond any point of repair. This time it really is dead. The best thing to do at this point is to save the corperations in it. There still are a few good ones. It would be ashame for PA leadership (if that exists anymore) to order all of its corperations to destroy it self fighting a battle they have already lost.
I hear alot of PA/NBSI in this thread trying to twist things in a way to blame me for their ill fate. However I do not hear anyone disputing the facts of my argument. If it makes things easier you can blame me if you like. However that really changes nothing. The truth will catch up to you. Your alliance is dead. If you act now you can save the corperations. If you chose a state of denial dont blame me when it kills your corperations as well.
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MakkAnzy
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Posted - 2006.03.01 05:04:00 -
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I see the form smackers had some more dribble to post :D
Lol I guess you guys are the equivalent of oxygen suckers except you suck the very bits out of cyberspace :D
Keep posting to prove your relevance!
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.01 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: MakkAnzy I see the form smackers had some more dribble to post :D
Lol I guess you guys are the equivalent of oxygen suckers except you suck the very bits out of cyberspace :D
Keep posting to prove your relevance!
Typicaly Pa/Nsi response. Try and dismiss it as random smacktalk if you like but nothing can save you from the truth.
Please resize your signature graphic to be less than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques |

Shittake
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Posted - 2006.03.01 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 01/03/2006 04:20:12
Originally by: Sextus Licinius
Great post, one thing tho PA is not dead yet and currently has around 100 active members from former 180 (with carebears). Was that one of the smallest alliance controlling 2 great regions Venal and Branch? I think so. I doubt PA will disband for so little tho, this post reflects only my 2 cents nothing more.
To answer thot, any alliance that doesn't disband after loosing their player owned stations are called pirates? Do you even know what pirate mean, cause you seem to play with terms you don't quite understand. BKG was not the capital system of PA, it was the "Rome" of carebears and was enough for someone to want that space to get it (that was classified information a while ago :D ).
Think you missed the point. Buz words like 'pirate' or 'freedom fighter' are irrelevent. The point was not that PA was dead because it lost a station or it is hemeraging members and corps. PA as an alliance simply doesnt work. Due to several circumstances (out of allies to prop it up, a reputation burned to the point where it will never get good new corps/players recruited into the alliance again, etc) it is way beyond any point of repair. This time it really is dead. The best thing to do at this point is to save the corperations in it. There still are a few good ones. It would be ashame for PA leadership (if that exists anymore) to order all of its corperations to destroy it self fighting a battle they have already lost.
I hear alot of PA/NBSI in this thread trying to twist things in a way to blame me for their ill fate. However I do not hear anyone disputing the facts of my argument. If it makes things easier you can blame me if you like. However that really changes nothing. The truth will catch up to you. Your alliance is dead. If you act now you can save the corperations. If you chose a state of denial dont blame me when it kills your corperations as well.
For once I do agree with you Persh, imagine that. 
It does look as if PA is dying, I will agree with you on that point. From a pure numbers standpoint they do seem to have alot of dead weight that seems to do apparently nothing at all. But they also have some good corps which fight regularly (how long they fight for PA is unknown).
But NBSI is far from dead, our forces are fighting and winning in a battle for control of our space. This battle will continue against whomever agresses us into the future. We intend to stay, and our fighting forces will do anything and everything possible to cripple and destabilize those who attempt to remove us.
This war is far from over, it will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.03.01 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: thoth foc on 01/03/2006 09:18:47
Originally by: ****take
But NBSI is far from dead, our forces are fighting and winning in a battle for control of our space. This battle will continue against whomever agresses us into the future. We intend to stay, and our fighting forces will do anything and everything possible to cripple and destabilize those who attempt to remove us.
This war is far from over, it will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
i seem to have heard this all b4 somewhere
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |

KIATolon
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Posted - 2006.03.01 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: ****take For once I do agree with you Persh, imagine that. 
It does look as if PA is dying, I will agree with you on that point. From a pure numbers standpoint they do seem to have alot of dead weight that seems to do apparently nothing at all. But they also have some good corps which fight regularly (how long they fight for PA is unknown).
But NBSI is far from dead, our forces are fighting and winning in a battle for control of our space. This battle will continue against whomever agresses us into the future. We intend to stay, and our fighting forces will do anything and everything possible to cripple and destabilize those who attempt to remove us.
This war is far from over, it will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
I dont think the war is far from over, nor do I think it will be interesting to see how things unfold. However I do think that NBSI may well have the balls to turn round and say "we got beat" when it happens and in doing that will ensure the survival of their alliance as people's respect for them grows.
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Naphtalia
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Posted - 2006.03.01 10:40:00 -
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Seems PA gave up on Branch, they seem not to be actively contesting that space and are concentrating on trying to keep Tenal.. PA/NBSI/UCC/CI fleet attempting to shoot a large POS last night in 60y while we are sleeping.
PS: (did you get it into reinforced and what time does it come out of reinforced?) ty!
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TIvian
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Posted - 2006.03.01 11:16:00 -
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I know I have been under a rock for some time and only recently returned to the whole PVP thing. But as far as I know an alliance isn't dead unless it chooses to be so.
I have heard soooo many times that PA is dead. First when BoB came up during my last days in Curse Alliance...and then some CA warriors came up and became military advisers and helped turn things around.
Same with SA and so on. Sorry to rain on the forum game play but I as much as I am enjoying my time up north I know that as soon as everyone moves on to different targets and moves out PA will still be there.
Its like the whole Fountain Alliance are dead or Imperium.
BLAH BLAH BLAH. NEXT!!!
Curse Alliance: United we stand. Divided...well you know the rest!!!
Forever proud CA member (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you all!! |

Tholarim
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Posted - 2006.03.01 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: TIvian I know I have been under a rock for some time and only recently returned to the whole PVP thing. But as far as I know an alliance isn't dead unless it chooses to be so.
I have heard soooo many times that PA is dead. First when BoB came up during my last days in Curse Alliance...and then some CA warriors came up and became military advisers and helped turn things around.
Same with SA and so on. Sorry to rain on the forum game play but I as much as I am enjoying my time up north I know that as soon as everyone moves on to different targets and moves out PA will still be there.
Its like the whole Fountain Alliance are dead or Imperium.
BLAH BLAH BLAH. NEXT!!!
pssst tiv, you're flaming the wrong ppl. We want pa to die remember? kthnx.
/emote sneaks out the backdoor.
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Pylse
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Posted - 2006.03.01 17:01:00 -
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Threads like this one makes me realize how glad I am to be out of the alliance scenario. Can't you just... kill eachother and be done with it? =P
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.03.01 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Pylse Threads like this one makes me realize how glad I am to be out of the alliance scenario. Can't you just... kill eachother and be done with it? =P
The "alliance scenario" is just another option for RP'ing.. killing without atmosphere is called NPC'ing 
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |

Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.01 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Pylse Threads like this one makes me realize how glad I am to be out of the alliance scenario. Can't you just... kill eachother and be done with it? =P
The "alliance scenario" is just another option for RP'ing.. killing without atmosphere is called NPC'ing 
QFT
Then again, some ppl like being just another gank corp.
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Lag Fest
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Posted - 2006.03.01 18:58:00 -
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i know PA r supposed to be my enemies but it's actually kinda sad seeing everyone they used to call "freinds" backstabbing them like that. I actually thought more of Iron/G/RAZOR.
Well i guess there isn't much more to say than GL PA. Hope u make it without too many losses. _______________________________________
Loved by some Hated by many Feared by all
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.03.01 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lag Fest i know PA r supposed to be my enemies but it's actually kinda sad seeing everyone they used to call "freinds" backstabbing them like that. I actually thought more of Iron/G/RAZOR.
Well i guess there isn't much more to say than GL PA. Hope u make it without too many losses.

Back to the mindcontrol tanks for you my lad!
Eve Blacklight Style
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Galavet
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Posted - 2006.03.01 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Lag Fest i know PA r supposed to be my enemies but it's actually kinda sad seeing everyone they used to call "freinds" backstabbing them like that. I actually thought more of Iron/G/RAZOR.
Well i guess there isn't much more to say than GL PA. Hope u make it without too many losses.

Back to the mindcontrol tanks for you my lad!
Awww-ooooo-gaaah Awww-ooooo-gaaah --- Damage control team report to the forums ASAP, BoB member speaking kindly of PA, Flame PA to no end to counter the damage --- Awww-ooooo-gaaah Awww-ooooo-gaaah!!
Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO |

Crellion
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Posted - 2006.03.01 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Galavet
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Lag Fest i know PA r supposed to be my enemies but it's actually kinda sad seeing everyone they used to call "freinds" backstabbing them like that. I actually thought more of Iron/G/RAZOR.
Well i guess there isn't much more to say than GL PA. Hope u make it without too many losses.

Back to the mindcontrol tanks for you my lad!
Awww-ooooo-gaaah Awww-ooooo-gaaah --- Damage control team report to the forums ASAP, BoB member speaking kindly of PA, Flame PA to no end to counter the damage --- Awww-ooooo-gaaah Awww-ooooo-gaaah!!
Calm down man its not as if he is praising Orc A or something 
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Sextus Licinius
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Posted - 2006.03.02 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Galavet
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Lag Fest i know PA r supposed to be my enemies but it's actually kinda sad seeing everyone they used to call "freinds" backstabbing them like that. I actually thought more of Iron/G/RAZOR.
Well i guess there isn't much more to say than GL PA. Hope u make it without too many losses.

Back to the mindcontrol tanks for you my lad!
Awww-ooooo-gaaah Awww-ooooo-gaaah --- Damage control team report to the forums ASAP, BoB member speaking kindly of PA, Flame PA to no end to counter the damage --- Awww-ooooo-gaaah Awww-ooooo-gaaah!!
Calm down man its not as if he is praising Orc A or something 
lol you kill me guys ... err in a good way.
Anyway is ok for everyone to go against the weekest, it only ruins this game nothing else. I guess we're all lucky that in real life politics are not made by 12 year olds living in a basement on nachos and spit, otherwise we would be in big f**king trouble. All pirates must die! |

Endeva
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Posted - 2006.03.02 01:21:00 -
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BlackDog Rackh'am guess what i am an indy pilot you can always check www.atuk.org for pilot stats
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.02 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sextus Licinius
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Galavet
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Lag Fest i know PA r supposed to be my enemies but it's actually kinda sad seeing everyone they used to call "freinds" backstabbing them like that. I actually thought more of Iron/G/RAZOR.
Well i guess there isn't much more to say than GL PA. Hope u make it without too many losses.

Back to the mindcontrol tanks for you my lad!
Awww-ooooo-gaaah Awww-ooooo-gaaah --- Damage control team report to the forums ASAP, BoB member speaking kindly of PA, Flame PA to no end to counter the damage --- Awww-ooooo-gaaah Awww-ooooo-gaaah!!
Calm down man its not as if he is praising Orc A or something 
lol you kill me guys ... err in a good way.
Anyway is ok for everyone to go against the weekest, it only ruins this game nothing else. I guess we're all lucky that in real life politics are not made by 12 year olds living in a basement on nachos and spit, otherwise we would be in big f**king trouble.
Guess what though. PA was already the weakest before everyone KOS'd you. I guess flaming us and war dec'ing us wasnt such a great idea in retrospect huh?
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.03.02 01:37:00 -
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this is actually one of the times again im sad that eve doesnt offer "win conditions" for wars or conflicts.
In eve every clearly won conflict ends the same way, one side dominating, the other pretending defiantly that they arent dead and will be back soon tm.
While this might have added in the old age same drama and fitted nicely to the mad professor theme shouting "ill be back hahahahahaha" at the end of the movie it becomes old, quickly.
PA isnt dead in my personal opinion since an alliance cant technically die in eve. They are however taken out. Their homeland taken, thousands of ships lost, politically broken and pilots fleeing their ranks. Ironically ppl are calling it a rebirth and talking about a stronger PA coming out of all this, i ask you why did u declare war in the first place ? This doesnt fit the rebirth tale. In the end you have to accept the humble pie and the new situation, despite your best forum warfare attempts and excuses generated by your friends in nbsi the facts offer a clear and undisputed image. You changed from a strong major force in the north to a nobody with little political might, little military power (if u cant field 15 capital ships as an alliance and 100bs support youre doing something wrong dudes) and no pilots to rebuild.
In my personal view its sad that noone in eve can accept defeat or publically admit it and that there is no "official unbiased" way of presenting this kind of information without beeing called a liar or biased.
Atleast CA had the grace to die in public, thats another thing i salute them for, especially since ive never been a member of CA and fought them all the time. Zombie and alliance necormancy are abit 2005, lets keep that in mind PA. Make ur statement, earn some respect and kudos. Then do the same CA did, spread, prosper and return successfull to the game in other alliances, with new goals, allies and enemies.
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