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Sim Frost
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Posted - 2006.02.26 13:19:00 -
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I am usually quite impressed with the performance increase in new TQ. I have particularly noted tremendous improvement in assets loading and in systems which were jammed by lag. I have not stuck in jumping even once which is a big plus. Thank you CCP for the smooth transition and generally fast gameplay :)
However, the market and "undocking" are as painful as before. It's as if nothing has changed in these 2 areas. Now, docking is almost instant which is very nice, but strangely, undocking takes longer than EQ2 zoning  And I am still afraid to click on the market 
Any word on if this is known and something is being done about this?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.02.26 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 26/02/2006 13:23:02
I wish the market would open in a new thread (computer programming lingo) so it wont lock up the interface while loading.
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Yeggstry
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Posted - 2006.02.26 14:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 26/02/2006 13:23:02
I wish the market would open in a new thread (computer programming lingo) so it wont lock up the interface while loading.
I wish most interface items (people and places, corp hangar, mail , reprocessing etc.) would be put in a new thread. It is a little frustrating for the client to freeze up, particularly if you reprocess 100+ seperate items in one time, its got better since the new cluster, but it still takes a good minute or two to unfreeze :(
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.02.26 15:24:00 -
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"Any word on if this is known and something is being done about this?"
If i understand it right, the market performance depends mostly on data access speed. And this is determined by the "ram-something" thingie CCP is using... since there's plans to buy and install more of these things in near future, the market performance should improve as well.
No idea about undocking, but it might be result of bugs, which has been mentioned elesewhere and are supposedly being tracked down as we speak ^^;;
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.26 15:25:00 -
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People and Places loading times.
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Enaxtiomarus
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Posted - 2006.02.26 15:30:00 -
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There is no way that simply buying faster hardware is going to improve these things to the extent that the players want. The client software has to be changed to a threaded model, simple as that. Threads won't help undocking, but it would help the Market and other windows.
Actually threads aren't the only way to do it but they are the easiest way.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.26 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Enaxtiomarus
There is no way that simply buying faster hardware is going to improve these things to the extent that the players want. The client software has to be changed to a threaded model, simple as that. Threads won't help undocking, but it would help the Market and other windows.
Actually threads aren't the only way to do it but they are the easiest way.
Threads have nothing to do with it--slow market loading times are due to the server taking time to send the information to the client.
I would guess the current bottleneck in the servers is the proxy layer.
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Galaxion
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Posted - 2006.02.26 15:34:00 -
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Well if this is a whining thread, I may as well whine. What still hasn't gone, in fact has gotten worse, has been the bug whereby you can't select the gate when you are right beside it, you can't jump (unless you hit autopilot or go through the time-consuming right click menu)
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2006.02.26 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Galaxion
Well if this is a whining thread, I may as well whine. What still hasn't gone, in fact has gotten worse, has been the bug whereby you can't select the gate when you are right beside it, you can't jump (unless you hit autopilot or go through the time-consuming right click menu)
I thought that was just me. It has indeed gotten worse.
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Ralus
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Posted - 2006.02.26 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Galaxion
Well if this is a whining thread, I may as well whine. What still hasn't gone, in fact has gotten worse, has been the bug whereby you can't select the gate when you are right beside it, you can't jump (unless you hit autopilot or go through the time-consuming right click menu)
I get that sometimes too, but its not limited to just gates, stations acceleration gates etc... It looks like the object boundery dissapers so no matter where you click the client still thinks you've clicked empty space.
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EVILSATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.26 16:29:00 -
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I wish I could have the transactions tab and sell orders tab would open in seperate windows to compare the two of them.
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Selim
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Posted - 2006.02.26 16:30:00 -
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Bookmark copying
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2006.02.26 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: Dexter Rast on 26/02/2006 16:54:25
caldari gates being 100 a/u across, when close to a caldari gate when you r/click in open space you nearly always get the gate options and not your general system menu, thus not being able to warp anywhere else unless you zoom all the way out and click on open space that way
also buddy list still borked, reds and greens all over
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Corovus
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Posted - 2006.02.26 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dexter Rast
Edited by: Dexter Rast on 26/02/2006 16:54:25
also buddy list still borked, reds and greens all over
I believe that is fixed in the next software patch.
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Weirda
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Posted - 2006.02.26 17:18:00 -
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undocking is faster then before... way faster.
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Xoria Krint
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Posted - 2006.02.26 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
Bookmark copying
Yes.. I hate that.
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Cerberal
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Posted - 2006.02.26 17:34:00 -
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Since i was gone a while, and didnt hear anything about it... did they ever fix wasp drones?
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M3ta7h3ad
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Posted - 2006.02.26 17:36:00 -
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Bookmark copying.. easy to solve to be honest. Dont allow BM's to be stored in cargo. Sorted. :)
As for the market, its an issue apparantly with people's cache. The new patch to change the ip also cleared your caches... it means that your having to recache every market item. Until you have done so (i.e. use the market a little bit more :)) then your going to get delays.
Undocking... seems longer somehow, not sure why.. but it certainly seems like its not the servers struggling so much now, but more the "database" side of things, entering space and undocking takes a little longer.
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.02.26 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Weirda
undocking is faster then before... way faster.
way faster for me also... like WAY faster to undock:):)
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.02.26 18:02:00 -
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Market, assets and so on are VERY slow... Another Ramsan?
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.02.26 18:08:00 -
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The market, along with other database machines, havent been updated. Also, you'll notice that node transfers (going from a station to the outside, jumping) is also still sluggish.
The recent devblog has mentioned that this is the next thing to be looked at.
In other news, 220 peeps in a 00 system and the lag was very tolerable. Wish the memory leak was squashed though.
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Dr Happy
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Posted - 2006.02.26 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sim Frost
I am usually quite impressed with the performance increase in new TQ. I have particularly noted tremendous improvement in assets loading and in systems which were jammed by lag. I have not stuck in jumping even once which is a big plus. Thank you CCP for the smooth transition and generally fast gameplay :)
However, the market and "undocking" are as painful as before. It's as if nothing has changed in these 2 areas. Now, docking is almost instant which is very nice, but strangely, undocking takes longer than EQ2 zoning And I am still afraid to click on the market
Any word on if this is known and something is being done about this?
thiose aren't a hardware thing those are relient on your and ccp's connection
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Zolofine
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Posted - 2006.02.26 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Enaxtiomarus
There is no way that simply buying faster hardware is going to improve these things to the extent that the players want. The client software has to be changed to a threaded model, simple as that. Threads won't help undocking, but it would help the Market and other windows.
Actually threads aren't the only way to do it but they are the easiest way.
Threads have nothing to do with it--slow market loading times are due to the server taking time to send the information to the client.
I would guess the current bottleneck in the servers is the proxy layer.
That's how i see it. I'm by far no expert but the overal server performance right now seems very good. As is the database performance. What is still somewhat slow is client <=> server interface.
I understand CCP were also upgrading this. Perhaps this upgrade has not yet been completed and will come at a later time (stealth upgrade?!).... |
F'nog
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Posted - 2006.02.26 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Galaxion
Well if this is a whining thread, I may as well whine. What still hasn't gone, in fact has gotten worse, has been the bug whereby you can't select the gate when you are right beside it, you can't jump (unless you hit autopilot or go through the time-consuming right click menu)
I HATE that bug. I've lost many a ship to it trying to run gate camps.
Originally by: Bl4zer
But, cmon, this is the Eve forums, we don't let facts get in the way of pointless speculation.
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2006.02.26 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Galaxion
Well if this is a whining thread, I may as well whine. What still hasn't gone, in fact has gotten worse, has been the bug whereby you can't select the gate when you are right beside it, you can't jump (unless you hit autopilot or go through the time-consuming right click menu)
ok ok ok, and if we are whining about gates, add: caldari stargates not beeing able to get any menu but the gate/jump menu, instead of bookmarks, no matter where you right click, have to zoom out 5 AU before it comes up 
ok done.
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neutralizer
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Posted - 2006.02.26 20:27:00 -
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While we're at it, it's so annoying that I can't use my bookmarks when I jump in because when I click on empty space, it selects something for me to warp to. And when I insta-warp to a station and I click on the station, I go right through it and click on the other station to dock causing me to warp to that station. So annoying.
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2006.02.26 20:30:00 -
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The thing about not being able to click on stargates has, indeed, gotten worse. I've taken to traveling with stargates on my overview all the time, since you can click on the gate on the overview even if you can't click on it in space.
-Wrayeth
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Weirda
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Posted - 2006.02.26 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayeth
The thing about not being able to click on stargates has, indeed, gotten worse. I've taken to traveling with stargates on my overview all the time, since you can click on the gate on the overview even if you can't click on it in space.
always have stargates in overview (to avoid that problem)...
but also helps to remember wtf weirda is... 
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.02.26 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Weirda
Originally by: Wrayeth
The thing about not being able to click on stargates has, indeed, gotten worse. I've taken to traveling with stargates on my overview all the time, since you can click on the gate on the overview even if you can't click on it in space.
always have stargates in overview (to avoid that problem)...
but also helps to remember wtf weirda is...
i use it for instas - shows where i am at the top of the list, and where i'm going as yellow 
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2006.02.26 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Weirda
always have stargates in overview (to avoid that problem)...
They become damned annoying in PvP, however, when you're trying to lock your targets and don't want to accidentally lock and fire at the gate.
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but also helps to remember wtf weirda is...
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