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Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
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Posted - 2013.12.08 20:35:00 -
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So much content in this thread...
...I'm so aroused right now. Expensive Agent |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
490
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Posted - 2013.12.08 20:58:00 -
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Proclus Diadochu wrote:So much content in this thread...
...I'm so aroused right now.
Seconded. Boner Bros 4 life
No trolling please |
Sen Cate
Blackstar Privateers Disavowed.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 21:07:00 -
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Thanks for stopping by for a good fight, next time bring a picnic.
Our god is evidently superior to your god...! |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
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Posted - 2013.12.08 21:12:00 -
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Sen Cate wrote:
Our god is evidently superior to your god...!
Please tell me you've killed Bob. No trolling please |
Sen Cate
Blackstar Privateers Disavowed.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 21:14:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:Sen Cate wrote:
Our god is evidently superior to your god...!
Please tell me you've killed Bob.
Yeah he took all the sacrificial exotic dancers, booze and drugs and moved to Monte Carlo
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Jim Augus
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.12.08 22:00:00 -
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Nutmegpainter wrote:I find the irony of this forum post ..very IRONIC huehue Before i start, massive goodfights and props to all that were involved and to the many still trapped T3s in Requiem :D Next time i wont have over 70% of my corp --NOT IN THE HOLE I had more caps sitting in my pos (without pilots) then actually on field. FYI I also find irony in that it was claimed to not be an invasion, however if the tables were turned, and we had lost, (godforbid) would they still be trying to discuss an exit/peace talk ? I wouldnt be so sure.. I dont allow many people to kick me in the balls without me having my own fair swing
To be fair nutmeg every time we have had visitors to our home (w-space/NOHO) or visited someone else's hole (REPO) we came to an agreement to let leave or leave peaceably.
Also very sad I couldn't make it sounded like a GF. |
Senn Denroth
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.12.08 22:33:00 -
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GF disavowed. Glad we could help you guys raise your KB efficiency a bit.
Servant's Lord wrote:Can you guys field ~20 dreads in your off TZ? ;)
Nope only 18 :(
PS. Who's idea was it to send wardecs to a hardcore wormhole alliance? lol |
Bitrute
Whale Girth Disavowed.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 22:48:00 -
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HashtagSwag |
Peter Moonlight
Direwolf-Rayet skylian Verge
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Posted - 2013.12.09 00:36:00 -
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Walextheone wrote:zar dada wrote:GF Disavowed. I got podded out before I could gf in local. I love wh pvp. With thoose numbers you are reduced to f1 warfare. No pilot skils involved. But maby thats your cup of tea anyhow. Eh well, good that you have just enough skills and balls to do some *read*: PVP.. Gj rolling away everytime you see us with your numbers being 2:1, and us only a few in combat ships.. Please leave the smack talk out of forums because you are pretty much out of story, and come down the grid, show your skills, make some content..
OP: Good job to both sides, tbh Disavowed bringed lot's of dreads, but eh well, who wouldn't guess that... I hope the game will continue... |
ChrisLCTR
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.12.09 00:45:00 -
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Senn Denroth wrote:GF disavowed. Glad we could help you guys raise your KB efficiency a bit. Servant's Lord wrote:Can you guys field ~20 dreads in your off TZ? ;) Nope only 18 :( PS. Who's idea was it to send wardecs to a hardcore wormhole alliance? lol
A silly, frustrated individual, that doesn't seem to understand how pointless it is to do so.
Probably could have spent the cash elsewhere... wardeccing a WH alliance is basically throwing your money into a pit. |
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Servant's Lord
Explorer Corps Disavowed.
20
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Posted - 2013.12.09 02:15:00 -
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G0hme wrote:Servant's Lord wrote:ChrisLCTR wrote:James Arget wrote:Looks like it was a fun fight, sad I missed it. Yeah... ditto Don't worry, you'll have your chance to die to us too. Can you guys field ~20 dreads in your off TZ? ;) Y'all also need to learn how to run turd carriers. I'll be happy to educate you. EDIT: Also, seriously? Single repper moros when you brought them in PREPARED to pvp? Everyone knows pvp moros are either dual rep or shield. Get out. ;) Is it true that you warped in at a 100km with a Blaster Moros? Them Iron charges, so OP
Tell me more about how pro you are with your dreads and "jump to cyno, siege red, shoot f1."
Literally the only thing you do is "fc do I bring short range guns or long range guns?"
Rest of your fit doesn't matter in the least bit due to you cynoing in, and proceeding to be your FCs f1 *****.
Tell me more about how little dps I do:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20809889 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20809987 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20809977 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20809966 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20809986 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20809887 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20810191
I mean should I continue? Top or secondary damage, on piles of killmails.
Why don't you shush and let your alliances' repeated failed dread drops/whelps be your most embarassing thing, rather than being schooled repeatedly by folks who actually know how to use dreads beyond "cyno-->blob-->fc f1 *****."
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TheYar0
Whale Girth Disavowed.
0
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Posted - 2013.12.09 03:50:00 -
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<3 Max Leadfoot
I wish you guys would just leave that POS up... |
Keith Planck
Sky Fighters
592
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Posted - 2013.12.09 04:30:00 -
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Fielded: 3 dreads, 3 carriers Vs 17 Dreads, 5 Carriers Losses: 3 dreads, 1 carriers Vs 6 dreads
I'd hardly say losing by 4% isk wise at those odds is embarrassing. |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
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Posted - 2013.12.09 04:44:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:
Fielded: 3 dreads, 3 carriers Vs 17 Dreads, 5 Carriers Losses: 3 dreads, 1 carriers Vs 6 dreads
I'd hardly say losing by 4% isk wise at those odds is embarrassing.
If you are looking just at the numbers, then certainly you are correct. However, the real value of the fight is that it stopped the eviction attempt dead in it's tracks. That is worth far more than winning/losing the isk war. No trolling please |
Keith Planck
Sky Fighters
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Posted - 2013.12.09 05:25:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:Keith Planck wrote:
Fielded: 3 dreads, 3 carriers Vs 17 Dreads, 5 Carriers Losses: 3 dreads, 1 carriers Vs 6 dreads
I'd hardly say losing by 4% isk wise at those odds is embarrassing.
If you are looking just at the numbers, then certainly you are correct. However, the real value of the fight is that it stopped the eviction attempt dead in it's tracks. That is worth far more than winning/losing the isk war.
Still isn't embarrassing.
The eve-kill didn't do justice to the invading force but it could have gone a lot worse either way |
Caius Beriat
Blackstar Privateers Disavowed.
37
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Posted - 2013.12.09 09:43:00 -
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Peter Moonlight wrote:Walextheone wrote:zar dada wrote:GF Disavowed. I got podded out before I could gf in local. I love wh pvp. With thoose numbers you are reduced to f1 warfare. No pilot skils involved. But maby thats your cup of tea anyhow. Eh well, good that you have just enough skills and balls to do some *read*: PVP.. Gj rolling away everytime you see us with your numbers being 2:1, and us only a few in combat ships.. Please leave the smack talk out of forums because you are pretty much out of story, and come down the grid, show your skills, make some content.. OP: Good job to both sides, tbh Disavowed bringed lot's of dreads, but eh well, who wouldn't guess that... I hope the game will continue...
You're going to come and kick our door in, **** on our carpet and not expect dreads? There would have been more if the Girth were actually in Requiem.
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Max Leadfoot
Explorer Corps Disavowed.
148
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Posted - 2013.12.09 13:17:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote: If you are looking just at the numbers, then certainly you are correct. However, the real value of the fight is that it stopped the eviction attempt dead in it's tracks. That is worth far more than winning/losing the isk war.
Seems like a reasonable position. Let's just take at the numbers from a holistic perspective using third party kb data. Just using what everyone's APIs say, and pass on the opinions and propaganda from both sides.
Losses
Attacker (Kill & SSC) 48 Pods 38 T3s 2 Carrier 2 Dread 6 Support/Logi
96 deaths - 65B
Defender (Disavowed) 16 Pods 8 T3s 6 Dreads 4 Support/Logi
34 deaths - 45B
Disavowed held and looted the field, which left us at about 12B loss after salvage. Numbers are skewed in isk value because the invading coalition killed a few ships from our side that were looting the field of high value items while fighting, but in some cases our ships/pods were just fit more expensively. The above is not counting the POS/Ship items the invaders left behind, self-destructs by that side, or certain cases where the invaders simply handed us their ships and left.
That leaves roughly a 50B difference between fleet losses, give or take a few billion. We have honored the invading coalition request to leave safely via an arranged agreement - although they did not follow that procedure this morning, we still let a group leave after downtime.
Overall, great fight from both sides! This is why we play the game ladies and gentlemen.
Sources: (main battle) https://zkillboard.com/related/31002054/201312071700/ (other little stuff) http://disavowed.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20810188 http://disavowed.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20813176 http://disavowed.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20806001 |
fido goran
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
3
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Posted - 2013.12.09 13:37:00 -
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Besides all of the shitposting (from all sides, don't get me wrong) at the end of it all I had fun. It was about time we had a decent fight again in w-space (the last one I was in of this scale was last year about the same time). It was a good fight, if you look past all the numbers and political bull, I'm sure both sides can agree on that. Honestly I'm a bit soured by the aftermath of it more than anything, I know I got a bit heated up at times at people, but in the end it's just a game, I for one had to sit back and remind myself of that recently.
GF's to all
Max Leadfoot wrote:Overall, great fight from both sides! This is why we play the game ladies and gentlemen. |
Ellen Eve
Cap Stables
0
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Posted - 2013.12.09 14:36:00 -
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fido goran wrote: It was about time we had a decent fight again in w-space (the last one I was in of this scale was last year about the same time). It was a good fight, if you look past all the numbers and political bull, I'm sure both sides can agree on that. Max Leadfoot wrote:Overall, great fight from both sides! This is why we play the game ladies and gentlemen. This makes me sad. The fact that you don't know why makes me more sad. |
G0hme
Hoover Inc. Black Legion.
138
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:01:00 -
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Sorry didn't know personal skill scaled to unreachable levels once you learn how to "Warp to 100km" instead of "Jump to XXXX" And I can definately see how flying a Dread any where changes once that Siege button is pressed. My mistake, you got me on that one. And while some would call warping to 100 in a Blaster Moros, where Disawoved clearly had the overhand, cowardice, I on the other hand admire your complete disregard for normal logical use of the Moros' amazing damage output and tracking while in close range. Could this be the new meta? Let me poke Elo about this, he must know! Or maybe you could have used a FC to tell you what to do with your Blaster Moros.
You don't get to kill revenants and supers by warping to them at sub-optimal range, even us F1'ers (my guns are on F2 though, but I used to be a W-spacer, I know better!) seem to have that figured out. Besides, Top Damage? I call that not following primaries. Did you get beat by a Revelation on that last one? Shook Eelm's hand at Fanfest 2012 Shook CCP Dolan's hand at Fanfest 2013
Booted someone EVE-Famous from a pub at Fanfest 2013 Are you absolutely sure that I am trolling? |
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zar dada
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:10:00 -
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Ellen Eve wrote:fido goran wrote: It was about time we had a decent fight again in w-space (the last one I was in of this scale was last year about the same time). It was a good fight, if you look past all the numbers and political bull, I'm sure both sides can agree on that. Max Leadfoot wrote:Overall, great fight from both sides! This is why we play the game ladies and gentlemen. This makes me sad. The fact that you don't know why makes me more sad.
We have tissues and ice cream for sad people. Please take as much time as you need. |
Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:50:00 -
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G0hme wrote:
Is it true that you warped in at a 100km with a Blaster Moros? Them Iron charges, so OP
I'd just assume that given they were mostly blapping T3s and guards off field, those again having a sigradius significantly below 100m, all being AB-fit - warping your dread in at farthest range possible sounds legit. It certainly doesn't sound like a mistake to spread your dreads like that (even if 100km is surely on the extreme end of that).
(In a wolf-rayet, linked Guards are roughly 30m, AB T3s are around 50-60m, deviation depending on your x-instinct-quality :P) "I honestly thought I was in lowsec" |
Nutmegpainter
Whale Girth Disavowed.
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:01:00 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:G0hme wrote:
Is it true that you warped in at a 100km with a Blaster Moros? Them Iron charges, so OP
I'd just assume that given they were mostly blapping T3s and guards off field, those again having a sigradius significantly below 100m, all being AB-fit - warping your dread in at farthest range possible sounds legit. It certainly doesn't sound like a mistake to spread your dreads like that (even if 100km is surely on the extreme end of that). (In a wolf-rayet, linked Guards are roughly 30m, AB T3s are around 50-60m, deviation depending on your x-instinct-quality :P)
Statements made by BL about fighting in w space only further show they are just null warfare folks who only know about farming W-space..
Seems warping that moros at 70 did us pretty well, even if he was using iron
When you dont have 50 slowcats and 80 munnins as support, you have to apply something called tactics instead of brute force
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Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:39:00 -
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As much as it pains me to do this, I have to defend G0hme here. He is a total douchecanoe, but he is also a wh space vet. Definitely not just some dumb null guy.
No trolling please |
Caius Beriat
Blackstar Privateers Disavowed.
37
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:17:00 -
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Dreads were warped in at various points, because we're not just blapping other caps here. What use are 20 dreads all bundled together if their subcaps can just orbit under the guns? |
G0hme
Hoover Inc. Black Legion.
138
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:38:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:As much as it pains me to do this, I have to defend G0hme here. He is a total douchecanoe, but he is also a wh space vet. Definitely not just some dumb null guy.
Thats the nicest thing you've ever said about me Bane <3 Shook Eelm's hand at Fanfest 2012 Shook CCP Dolan's hand at Fanfest 2013
Booted someone EVE-Famous from a pub at Fanfest 2013 Are you absolutely sure that I am trolling? |
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