T2 Venture:
Frigate-sized (aesthetically maybe bordering on destroyer-sized hull)

5 Hardpoints, 5 high slots
2 mids
2 lows

Ore-Hold about the same size as the current Venture
PWG/CPU about the same as current Venture
250S / 200A / 325H Tank, resists same as T1 as for other industrials.

Mining Frigate skill bonus per level:
5% bonus to ore hold capacity
7.5% reduction in miner and gas cloud harvester CPU/PWG needs

Exhumers skill bonus per level:
5% reduction to gas cloud harvester and miner duration per level
7.5% increase to scan strength of probes per level

Role bonuses:
100% bonus to gas cloud harvesting
+2 warp core strength

2 mids
2 lows

250S / 200A / 325H Tank, resists same as T1 as for other industrials.

yup, with 4-5 gas harversters you'll probably die on 2nd or 3rd cycle from gas explosion. Have fun trying to fit a tank with these slots and 2 rigs.

I think you're mistaking deep-core miners for gas cloud harvesters.
The Venture mines gas safely with an even thinner tank and 2 GCHs, and I have yet to see the cloud deal damage to my ship.

The venture is an amazing gas harvester. Truly unprecedented in it's effectiveness. The venture's 5% reduction to cycle time/level and double yield is awesome. A Gas Cloud Harvester II normally does 2 units every 40 seconds for a cyclic rate of 3 units/minute. At Mining Frigate V, each of the harvesters on the Venture pull in a cyclic 8 units/minue. Given those harvestoes are eight times the cost of the venture hull, each, this economy is brilliant.

-1, no changes need to be made.

I think you are not aware that some gas clouds in low / null can (if you are unlucky) explode and damage your shipwhen you harvest them.

I do not see why we need a T2 venture

Structure HP: 400
Shield HP: 450
Armor HP: 350

4 high slots (3 turret hardpoints, 0 launcher hardpoints)
4 mids
3 lows

Standard ore hold replaced by a 10,000 m3 gas hold.

PWG: 55 MW
CPU: 280 tf

Same resists as Venture

Max velocity: 250 m/sec (much slower than a standard Venture due to greatly improved tank)

Mining Frigate skill bonus per level:
5% bonus to gas hold capacity
7.5% reduction in gas cloud harvester CPU/PWG needs

Deep Space Harvester skill bonus per level:
5% reduction to gas cloud harvester duration per level
7.5% increase to scan strength of probes per level

Role bonuses:
100% bonus to gas cloud harvesting
+2 warp core strength

I like the scanning bonus idea. Overall I think the idea has merit. Not so sure about it using the Exhumers skill though. Feels like its own distinct type of ship that should require specific training. Here would be my suggestions:



Overall these changes would make it much tankier than a Venture while being a good bit slower and less nimble, while also making it a bit more reasonable in terms of its tank and the yields it could produce (5 turret slots? really?). It would also be a pure gas harvesting ship with gas hold, which I personally do think is a niche that needs to be filled.

I like the overspecialization (getting a Skiff 2.0 vibe here, CCP won't like but I do), but I think if we allocate 4 mids we should drop the lows by 1.

I was also thinking of giving the hull a T2 shield resist for whatever damage type the booster nullsec gasses apparently do (explosive?) so maybe the 4th mid might not be really essential. (although the possibility of scanning mods appeals to me)

I agree that 10 effective harvesters is excessive. And with 3 hardpoints, the devs could just add a gas canister somewhere on the Venture hull and call it a day with a palette swap since it has 3 blatant hardpoints already on the hull.

Really nice iteration, I'm stealing it and putting it in the OP.

As already mentioned, the venture is already an awesome gas harvester. Instead if a T2 venture were to be implemented it should be an ice harvester.

As already mentioned, the venture is already an awesome gas harvester. Instead if a T2 venture were to be implemented it should be an ice harvester.

We're talking about making a T2 venture here. The entire point is to IMPROVE upon this design and cash in upon the fact no ship can use the 5 T2 GCHs having gas cloud harvesting at V grants you.

Any ship with 5 turret hardpoints and sufficient CPU can use 5 gas cloud harvesters when you have gas cloud harvesting V. The venture's skill and role bonuses make its 2 harvesters equivalent to 5 harvesters so you can get the same gas yield as from a much larger and more expensive ship.

The Venture is all we need for gas harvesting, but we need another ice harvesting ship on top of all the Mining Barges and Exhumers we already have? That makes no sense...

Any ship with 5 turret hardpoints and sufficient CPU can use 5 gas cloud harvesters when you have gas cloud harvesting V. The venture's skill and role bonuses make its 2 harvesters equivalent to 5 harvesters so you can get the same gas yield as from a much larger and more expensive ship.

There is a possible model (ignore the name and the caldari markings)

TII Venture like model
or maybe even this
awesome?