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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.02.27 22:14:00 -
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Fired up the test server today to play around with the new bloodlines and see what character design I would like. My gripe beign with the fact that the options are a lot more limited compared to the other bloodlines in terms of hairstyles and other facial features. Not only that but changing the face characteristics is almsot hardly noticeable at times.
I just wanted to know if the final release will have more options or are we limited to teh few right now? _______________
The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.02.27 23:35:00 -
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wow, bumping your own posts after an hour 
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.02.27 23:35:00 -
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I guess it is just me. _______________
The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
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Dr Happy
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Posted - 2006.02.27 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Fuujin Edited by: Fuujin on 27/02/2006 22:51:41 Fired up the test server today to play around with the new bloodlines and see what character design I would like. My gripe beign with the fact that the options are a lot more limited compared to the other bloodlines in terms of hairstyles and other facial features. Not only that but changing the face characteristics is almsot hardly noticeable at times.
I just wanted to know if the final release will have more options or are we limited to teh few right now?
I think you a racist saying all asians look the same
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.02.27 23:37:00 -
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I'm CrAzAy like that!
or something... _______________
The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.02.27 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Happy
Originally by: Fuujin Edited by: Fuujin on 27/02/2006 22:51:41 Fired up the test server today to play around with the new bloodlines and see what character design I would like. My gripe beign with the fact that the options are a lot more limited compared to the other bloodlines in terms of hairstyles and other facial features. Not only that but changing the face characteristics is almsot hardly noticeable at times.
I just wanted to know if the final release will have more options or are we limited to teh few right now?
I think you a racist saying all asians look the same
Haha i think CCP is making me further believe that stereotype with the limited options  _______________
The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.27 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Fuujin
Originally by: Dr Happy
Originally by: Fuujin Edited by: Fuujin on 27/02/2006 22:51:41 Fired up the test server today to play around with the new bloodlines and see what character design I would like. My gripe beign with the fact that the options are a lot more limited compared to the other bloodlines in terms of hairstyles and other facial features. Not only that but changing the face characteristics is almsot hardly noticeable at times.
I just wanted to know if the final release will have more options or are we limited to teh few right now?
I think you a racist saying all asians look the same
Haha i think CCP is making me further believe that stereotype with the limited options 
Test it yourself at AllLookSame.com ^_^
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.02.27 23:43:00 -
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Edited by: Fuujin on 27/02/2006 23:44:23 Ah I've taken that test before. I study Japanese and a bit of Chinese so through all that I tend to meet a lot of Asian people and thus can tell Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese and Fillipino apart pretty easily. But i digress....
I just hope My Jinmei character doesn't end up looking like every single other one.  _______________
The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
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Failin Zhar
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Posted - 2006.02.28 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: Failin Zhar on 28/02/2006 00:43:27 Edited by: Failin Zhar on 28/02/2006 00:40:17 Honestly...to a big extent they DO look the same to me. I have a very firm grasp of faces normally but when they show vids from China on the telly and they show groups of chinese people the only things that makes the people different, to me, is their clothing.
I've read something about that I (a swedish person) have gotten used to "read" people with a western look and therefore differentiate looks of people of non western ethnicities less well. No idea if that's real science or just mumbo jumbo. Many of them still look the same to me. And if some stuck up person will accuse me of racism don't. Just shoot yourself in the belly and enjoy.
*edit* To stay on topic. I to believe that the new bloodlines have too few options. I tried morphing the faces for a good while, on all the new bloods, and it pretty much didn't do any differance at all. I'm not saying the morphing of the old bloods is all that super but it's clearly more noticable (just look at the brutors chin...hot damn, that chin would make superman green with envy!!!). It's lucky the new bloods look good anyway ;P ----------------------------------------------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

Failin Zhar
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Posted - 2006.02.28 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Fuujin I just hope My Jinmei character doesn't end up looking like every single other one. 
If I was a betting man I'd wager lots of iskies that it will. Most of the new bloodlines will look, I think, almost identical to others of their race. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

Emmerich Steiner
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Posted - 2006.02.28 00:55:00 -
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I was looking at making a verhokawhatever.. that is supposed to be the uber trading race.
I find it odd that though they have insane charisma, thier willpower is horrible (max of 9 [base 3, add 3, pick the class that adds another 3]). Which is the primary attribute for all of the trade skills.
What is up with this.
My domi is pretty ugly It's tech II drones do the deed. And that thorax ramming me fits oh so snugly. I surely hope this poem made your ears bleed. |

Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.02.28 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Test it yourself at AllLookSame.com ^_^
14/18 and I hardly see any Asians in real life. Just got lucky by going on facial expressions and features. _____________________________________
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.02.28 01:22:00 -
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playing with the character creator on there I found alot of the facial morphs DO seem to be a bit more subtle than some of the "old" ones.
but honestly theres not that many "styles" of appearances now...
armchair psychiatrist wants to ramble about archeotypes, what the mind is pre-programmed to find attractive...
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.02.28 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Failin Zhar
Originally by: Fuujin I just hope My Jinmei character doesn't end up looking like every single other one. 
If I was a betting man I'd wager lots of iskies that it will. Most of the new bloodlines will look, I think, almost identical to others of their race.
Guess i'll have to put the lighting to good work then :( _______________
The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
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Emmerich Steiner
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Posted - 2006.02.28 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Test it yourself at AllLookSame.com ^_^
Only got the japanese right (no I didn't say they were all japanese :D )
My domi is pretty ugly It's tech II drones do the deed. And that thorax ramming me fits oh so snugly. I surely hope this poem made your ears bleed. |

Calshir
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Posted - 2006.02.28 04:05:00 -
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4 right lol, guess the all look the same to me 
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.02.28 04:06:00 -
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Honestly though the jinmei female needs some more alternatives to hairstyles. _______________
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Jimmyz
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Posted - 2006.02.28 05:11:00 -
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I havenĘt seen it posted so I thought my newb butt should ask. Will the new Bloodlines race include new ships or just the new race?
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.02.28 05:38:00 -
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4, guess the selections are fine the way they are.
Remind me about The Maze.
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David Corbett
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Posted - 2006.02.28 06:15:00 -
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Four... but I'd do no better with any other nationalities.
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Failin Zhar
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Posted - 2006.02.28 09:27:00 -
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I took the test, scored 7. That was better than I thought and is actually the average it seems. It's interesting though that I got almost all the japanese right but failed horribly to id the chinese and koreans. Bah...we should all be genetically changed to look like vulcans, then we'd all be nber. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

Failin Zhar
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Posted - 2006.02.28 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Jimmyz I havenĘt seen it posted so I thought my newb butt should ask. Will the new Bloodlines race include new ships or just the new race?
You should read the patchnotes =) There's a whole slew of stuff in the patch. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

Ravenal
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Posted - 2006.02.28 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Test it yourself at AllLookSame.com ^_^
gawd... 3/18 - i really suck at knowing how the people at the other side of the planet look like... average is like 7 :D . -Fate is what you make of it. -Make your own fate using T2 items produced by The Fated
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Melissy
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Posted - 2006.02.28 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Melissy on 28/02/2006 11:16:05 2/18! wow so they do look alike !
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Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.02.28 11:19:00 -
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hmmm i guess the original bloodlines have had extra options and variances added over 3 years the new ones have had a limited programming time and hence lack diversity - could change in kali tho
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Godagast Moonbane
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Posted - 2006.02.28 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: Godagast Moonbane on 28/02/2006 12:04:33
Originally by: Failin Zhar
Originally by: Jimmyz I havenĘt seen it posted so I thought my newb butt should ask. Will the new Bloodlines race include new ships or just the new race?
You should read the patchnotes =) There's a whole slew of stuff in the patch.
And you should read the question that was originally asked. Read, think, then answer. 
In response: no, there are no new ships to go with the bloodlines. They use the same ships as the other bloodlines of their empire - Khanid use Amarr ships, Achura use Caldari, etc.
By the way, as for the people who say that all characters of one of the new bloodlines look the same. You have a point, but isn't that true for the old bloodlines as well? Don't all Deteis look the same? Don't all Amarr, Intaki etc. look the same? Sure, you can change costumes, hairstyles, accesories etc., but the basic face stays very similar. It's simply the way the EVE portrait creation system works.
All things considered, I think the new bloodlines aren't any worse when it comes to variability. You can do a lot via different costumes, hair, lighting etc.
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2006.02.28 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Failin Zhar I took the test, scored 7. That was better than I thought and is actually the average it seems. It's interesting though that I got almost all the japanese right but failed horribly to id the chinese and koreans.
7 here also... and yeah it's hard to tell apart some of the Chinese from the Koreans, but Japanese are different from both. __________________ Retard's handbook |

Winter Star
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Posted - 2006.02.28 12:49:00 -
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Edited by: Winter Star on 28/02/2006 12:49:06 I'd agree that on the surface the options are more restricted than for the other current bloodlines however you can still get some pleasingly different results if you play around for a while. Below is a small sampling of what i did in 10 minutes or so....
Achura Female #1
Achura Female #2
Jin Mei Female #1
Jin Mei Male #1
Khanid Female #1
Khanid Male #1
Khanid Male #2
Vherokior Female #1
^thinks of children, dunno with who -eris
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Dedekind
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Posted - 2006.02.28 13:02:00 -
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Bah. I logged into the Test Server to check out the new bloodlines. And I agree with some people here: Their faces cannot be modified as much as one could with the older bloodlines.
Come on CCP: Increase the face modifiability coefficient in your code (if you have any such thing .)
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Eldo Davip

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Posted - 2006.02.28 14:06:00 -
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Please refrain from posting on racist issues like nationality. Keep the discussion to Eve related races only 
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.02.28 14:09:00 -
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I like the new bloodlines, they add some more spice to the game from the usual faces I see :D
I think I may have to delete one of my alts and make a Sexy Jin-mei for Cybering eh? EH? :D ---------------------------------
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Flash Landsraad
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Posted - 2006.02.28 14:18:00 -
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What's the highest possible perception attribute you can get with any of the new bloodline combinations?
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Godagast Moonbane
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Posted - 2006.02.28 14:48:00 -
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A Khanid with Cyber Knight ancestry and +3 custom points in perception has a value of 14. Used to be even higher in previous test runs, but they lowered it due to too many of you twerps complaining about the "uber stats of new bloodlines".
Jin-Mei with the right ancestry can now go up to 13 perception, which should make that race popular as well.
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Sarmea Moon
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:00:00 -
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Well, I got 9/18 ( mostly the koreans), but none of them looked like any other to me. I have a hard time telling the caldari apart. On the street, I couldn't tell you who was of what european race either. I think I'd fail far more on white faces than on asian; yes, I'm white, but American- home of the original mutt:D --------- "English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through thier pockets for loose grammar. " |

Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.02.28 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Winter Star Edited by: Winter Star on 28/02/2006 12:49:06 I'd agree that on the surface the options are more restricted than for the other current bloodlines however you can still get some pleasingly different results if you play around for a while. Below is a small sampling of what i did in 10 minutes or so....
Achura Female #1
Achura Female #2
Jin Mei Female #1
Jin Mei Male #1
Khanid Female #1
Khanid Male #1
Khanid Male #2
Vherokior Female #1
See out of the ones you posted, i originally made almost identical models. For example the Female jinmei. Theres only one real hairstyle with varying colors aside from the different hair ornaments. _______________
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Godagast Moonbane
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Fuujin See out of the ones you posted, i originally made almost identical models. For example the Female jinmei. Theres only one real hairstyle with varying colors aside from the different hair ornaments.
It's a similar story with the old bloodlines. Deteis females, for instance, only have three hairstyles and no ornaments at all. So, why aren't you complaining about them, too? 
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Swappochar
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:45:00 -
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I want a new amarrian bloodline, but do not want an asian "look" ... I'm not chinese and I can't say I love chinese that much to create a character looking like one of them... Why didn't CCP make black people instead of chinese?^_^
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Darzerb
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Swappochar I want a new amarrian bloodline, but do not want an asian "look" ... I'm not chinese and I can't say I love chinese that much to create a character looking like one of them... Why didn't CCP make black people instead of chinese?^_^
Because they aren't trying to sell this game in Africa . ------------------
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Leomund Sardis
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Posted - 2006.02.28 21:18:00 -
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I rolled one of the new bloodlines on the test server. I don't know why, but 30 minutes later, I felt like rolling again.

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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.02.28 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Godagast Moonbane
Originally by: Fuujin See out of the ones you posted, i originally made almost identical models. For example the Female jinmei. Theres only one real hairstyle with varying colors aside from the different hair ornaments.
It's a similar story with the old bloodlines. Deteis females, for instance, only have three hairstyles and no ornaments at all. So, why aren't you complaining about them, too? 
Those ones aren't nearly as limited as the new ones. I'm loving the new models, there just aren't enough options for hair, accessories and the like. Look at accessories on the Jinmei male. I think theres like 4-6 different ones, and they're repeats, just on different sides of the face, almost the same goes for beard, theres a good 4 or 5 options and they look almost identical. Then theres some inconsistencies with a few other things. The jinmei male can have grey eyebrows but not grey hair or beard. _______________
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Principe
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Posted - 2006.03.01 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari *snip* -Eldo Test it yourself at AllLookSame.com ^_^
Wow, I'm Filipino and I thought I'd know better... I'm like uhh, they all look Filipino to me (The women at least).
To stay on topic... well I hope they make more variations, It would s*** if we all look like clones. |

Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.03.01 22:37:00 -
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Oddly enough i've looked at other pictures and seen variations that i can't do on mine. Is it at all remotely possible that the patch did not fully download but still could have been applied? _______________
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DenBrown
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Posted - 2006.10.08 09:57:00 -
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Removed - Eshtir
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