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Danitar
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Posted - 2006.02.28 23:14:00 -
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This is Serious please dont take lightly...
First eve is a buetiful game that i love .thanks and good work!
But the Battles and Wars are becoming boring becouse no skill is involved...
--First to lock and Jam wins..That simple
And I'm not just venting couse i got killed or something, no no no not at all..Jamming is ok and part of the game .but it is so MASSIVLY over powered it's the win button. Battles are now first to lock and jam wins.
You could be a 30 mil sp. character with a nice ship and a 4 mil sp. chacter with a noob ship locks and jam's you and his other 4 mil sp. buddy comes and pounds on you till death and you cant even get off a shot.not ONE.
wheres the skill in this?
Shouldn't it be real easy for a 4mil sp. guy to jam another 4mil sp. guy ...But harder to jam a character with more sp's ? or harder to jam a larger ship? or maybe only alow one jam per ship every 3 minuets or so.
I ran a Ladar back-up array and a eccm booster. both the best you can buy..and still i get jammed every single time with out fail.
And then just watch my ship get picked apart couse i cant lock a target the entire battle. And i try to lock over and over and nothing happens cant lock anything, and I have 41 points in ladar!
Can we make the back-up arrays and eccm boosters actually work. or can we make it harder to jam a ship thats bigger. or harder to jam a character much higher sp's than the jammer. or only one jam per ship every few minuetes,instead of seconds?
There is accually no skill in battles .
Simple: First to lock and jam WIN'S
I just want to have battles where skill is involved and using the training of your character and fitting out your ship and using right ammo picking the right ship using right armour etc. etc.,..having fun battles exchanging blows and yea with a little jamming here and there sure.
not just first to jam wins..there is no fun and no skill in that...
And worst no way to counter it.
Jamming  The Win Button
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BH Runner
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Posted - 2006.02.28 23:16:00 -
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Edited by: BH Runner on 28/02/2006 23:17:20
backup arrays?
dampners?
FOF Missiles?
Point blank smartbomb assault?
drone release?
wrp out, outmanouvre and reengage?
There are many ways to counteract a player running a jamming setup, this has always been the case, and remains the case. Mess about with you setup a bit and see what results you can achieve.
You might want to try the ships and modules forum for this, this isn't the forum for discussing which modules 'r de bestest'.
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Runner
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Danitar
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Posted - 2006.02.28 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Danitar on 28/02/2006 23:34:39
If you read you will see i ran the best back-up arrays and eccm's together...COMPLETLY USELESS they dont work AT ALL I have tryed them over and over with no effect. Completley useless. Jammed every time.
and if your jammed your probably scrambeled so no warping...useless
and ecm burst's what 7500m range? and your jammed from 10km to 100km ...again useless
Drones ...comun be serious..
Jamming is MASSIVLY over powered ...Its the win button..
I'm just saying either have something as equally powered to counter it... or nerf it ,...Battles are the bore ..just race to see who jam's first and WHEEE you win...
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Arcadia1701
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Posted - 2006.03.01 00:13:00 -
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i do find it rather silly that jamming is near perminant, and the way a thorax was able to perma jam my raven to, its not right, ONE cruiser with 2/3 jaammer should not be able to perma jam a BS like that, true a had FOFs so he had to bug out but come on, ECM/ jammmin / ECCM needs looking at again.
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Clain Matta
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Posted - 2006.03.01 01:24:00 -
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Another bit of advice would be not to engage 2 battleships, and 2 battlecruisers solo in a billion isk Machariel not just the best eccm...but completly loaded out with officer and tech 2 gear, hence this "overpowered module" whine. And its not like you weren't asking for it...after all nubs declared on frege, not vice cersa
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Danitar
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Posted - 2006.03.01 05:57:00 -
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Edited by: Danitar on 01/03/2006 05:59:08
 Originally by: Clain Matta
Another bit of advice would be not to engage 2 battleships, and 2 battlecruisers solo in a billion isk Machariel not just the best eccm...but completly loaded out with officer and tech 2 gear, hence this "overpowered module" whine. And its not like you weren't asking for it...after all nubs declared on frege, not vice cersa
OMG This has nothing to do with the war at all..absolutly nothing,,,,I dont care about losing a machariel i have 3 of them( 2 now ) ..and by the way it was more like 10+ of you vs me, everyone knows thats how FREDGE fight's 10 or more vs 1. so that was a blob nothing anyone can do against that and i have never complained here about a blob..this has nothing to do with your blobing me.
....Read first before making stupid comments this is a completlely different subject....
Anyway back to the subject:
just to test this Me and a corp mate :
I equiped 3 ECCM tech II's and a Ladar back-up array, 101 points in ladar strength and instatly jammed and repeatedly jammed me over and over i was able not be jammed about once every 2 minuets for just a instant enough for my guns to barely fire off a round. and then jammed again over and over...he could have easily destroyed me with no problem ..as i just sat watched nothing i could do....the eccm's and back-up araay's are worthless jamming cannot be countered ,.,..
The win button...
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.01 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 01/03/2006 09:56:24
Dan, you're flying machs - you've clearly not a complete noob. You already know racial jammers are way more powerful than their multispec cousins, and if the State gang were lucky enough to be packing the right ones, you were always going to struggle to lock.
the chance to sucessfully jam is always a percentage, and it sounds like you just have really, really bad luck. It'd be possible to have a load of people trying to jam you and not one of them stick, that dosen't mean they need to be made stronger.
its not like i you can rock upto a faction battleship in a t1 cruiser and keep it jammed.
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Brother Agenos
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Posted - 2006.03.01 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: Brother Agenos on 01/03/2006 14:07:18
u kept sitting at the sam spot few nights in a row, in a same ship and waiting for us. That didn't go unnoticed.
knowing what type of ship nme is flying can be very benefitial.
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ahojek
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Posted - 2006.03.01 13:57:00 -
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ccp always stated that it supports cooperation. and if u were in fleet u prolly wouldnt be jammed/ppl that jam u would be primary and would be taken out quickly.
simple as that.
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Laqum
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Posted - 2006.03.01 14:29:00 -
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Cross posting is not allowed.
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