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Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.05 13:13:00 -
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Now that i have had time to think of a profession I have decided that there is only one sure fire way of making money without too much work 'ORE STEALING'. Now I was wondering if there are any fellow thieves who can give me any tips on best tactics to use?
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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TekRa
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Posted - 2003.09.05 13:18:00 -
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yeah... wait 'till opening others cans is a hostile act, then come steal from me...
  
> With the lights out it's less dangerous. |
Scragg
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Posted - 2003.09.05 13:24:00 -
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Be sure and steal only in 0.0 security systems so you can score the most expensive ore and make the most money. The syndicate region would be best. You can get the most for your ore selling it in the Essence region. Make several trips a day for the most profit.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.05 13:27:00 -
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Torath, if I had any doubts about your Trolldom, you have me now completely convinced.
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Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?"
Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't"
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.05 13:31:00 -
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yeah... wait 'till opening others cans is a hostile act, then come steal from me...
Until then I will seek you out and do it without fear of retribution..
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.05 13:34:00 -
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You have one week left to live...
NOTE: Roleplayed post!
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Redan Chulipa
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Posted - 2003.09.05 13:41:00 -
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Beware of the cloaked kestrell in the belt!
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TekRa
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Posted - 2003.09.05 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: TekRa on 05/09/2003 13:42:20
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Until then I will seek you out and do it without fear of retribution..
If you know the password to my large secure containers :-p
> With the lights out it's less dangerous. |
Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.05 13:42:00 -
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I knew that heart condition would be the death of me!!
I am sure the doctor gave me longer.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Deadmetal
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Posted - 2003.09.05 14:50:00 -
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ahh more meat for the grinder.... We look forward to podding you ....
"Love - Ore Thief Killers"
"Human Nature - If someone put a big red button in a remote mountain cave with a sign on it 'End of the world button!! Do not push!!.. the paint wouldn't have a chance to dry." |
Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.05 14:59:00 -
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ahh more meat for the grinder.... We look forward to podding you ....
"Love - Ore Thief Killers"
Catch me if you can, and I doubt you can.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Lill Lo
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:04:00 -
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Torath is just another in a line of Scammers and thieves, he do what he does best, steal from others...
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:09:00 -
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Torath is just another in a line of Scammers and thieves, he do what he does best, steal from others...
And until someone stops me I will carry on. Thanks for all your hard work. 
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:13:00 -
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nope, just another TROLL
ban plz
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Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?"
Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't"
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Noctoz
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:18:00 -
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I will pod you myself if you come to syndicate pathetic little ore thief.
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NoctoZ
Black Reign
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:19:00 -
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nope, just another TROLL
ban plz
Thanks for watching over me Des. Did you have any valid points to bring to this discussion?
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:33:00 -
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Edited by: Daesdemona on 05/09/2003 15:45:48
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nope, just another TROLL
ban plz
Thanks for watching over me Des. Did you have any valid points to bring to this discussion?
if I did I would have a long time ago, just want to see how long it takes people to realize you are just attention deficieNt :)
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:42:00 -
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if I did I would have a long time ago, just want to see how long it takes people to realize you are just attention deficinet :)
Whats a deficinet, is it what Jamaican fishermen use?
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:45:00 -
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Edited by: Kalhan on 05/09/2003 15:47:46
Makeing opening anothers UNSECURE can a hostle act is not going to happen.
Making a hacking skill to hack skill that can hack into a Secure can. This would be a hostle act and might be were that rumor is coming from.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:47:00 -
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if I did I would have a long time ago, just want to see how long it takes people to realize you are just attention deficinet :)
Whats a deficinet, is it what Jamaican fishermen use?
zzz
ps. duly edited post for the anal retentives.
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Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?"
Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't"
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Torath on 05/09/2003 15:55:30
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zzz
We could dance all night Des, but will it get us anywhere?
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Cool dude
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:54:00 -
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I am pleased to announce the upcoming engement between Torath & Daesdemona
They are planning a quiet wedding and are spendeing thier honeymoon on deficing boat in Jamaica
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:55:00 -
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Just think about it a sec... They just finished with the adding of player anchored objects in space from stuff you buy like unsecure and secure containers on the market. opening those or firing on the other objects like sentry guns and such that are also player own and anchored will be a hostile act.
BUT OPENING JETISONED CONTAINERS WILL NEVER BE A HOSTILE ACT.
so if you go and buy a unsecure container off the market and anchor it in space you will notice that your picture is in the info window of the object. They are fixing it so another player opening it will be a hostile act.
BUT AGAIN OPENING JETISONED CONTAINERS WILL NEVER BE A HOSTILE ACT.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:56:00 -
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zzz
We could dnace all night Des, but will it get us anywhere?
Very bored @ work, no games to play... just finished book... so yes, it will get me through this day faster.
Also: I am not marrying anyone on a deficing boat.
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Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?"
Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't"
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:58:00 -
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Very bored @ work, no games to play... just finished book... so yes, it will get me through this day faster.
Also: I am not marrying anyone on a deficing boat.
Touche
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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xpero
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Posted - 2003.09.05 15:58:00 -
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ARGH ! Come steal from me, and i am sure i can teach you some tricks - like finding a fast route through Clone-Xpress back to your spawn.
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <)
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.05 16:00:00 -
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ARGH ! Come steal from me, and i am sure i can teach you some tricks - like finding a fast route through Clone-Xpress back to your spawn.
If you are in 1.0 space I don't think you would be able to follow through with such a threat.
Furthermore I find this subject a good discussion and ask that you please refrain yourself from cluddering the thread with such garbage, even though I don't think you could do that either.
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xpero
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Posted - 2003.09.05 16:08:00 -
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who said i hang in 1.0 zones ? and it is not a good discussion. Ore thieves should be banned. I will personally destroy each one that comes my way with extreme prejudice.
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(O.o)
(> <)
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.05 16:12:00 -
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ok let me rephase. in .5 and up space you would not be able to follow through.
Secondly. eve supports any professiona player wishes to become. Just like they support you killing any player in any profession you wish to kill. Ore thiefs are the starting profession to pirating. However I do not think they should be able to steal from newbs. If you decide to mine using a unsecure contain then you put yourself at risk.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.05 16:15:00 -
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the mods seem to be vactioning today.
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Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?"
Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't"
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.05 16:15:00 -
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There are 2 topics on this. I wonder which one the Mods will choose.
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xpero
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Posted - 2003.09.05 16:28:00 -
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here is a thought, why not implement this:
a player steals ore and his security rate goes down unless he/she is ganged or is a member of the same corp. there you go, a nice remedy for player stupidity. Besides, theft is theft. If a player sees theft of ore as a potential way for profit, he/she may have to rethink his "profession".
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(O.o)
(> <)
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.05 16:40:00 -
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here is a thought, why not implement this:
a player steals ore and his security rate goes down unless he/she is ganged or is a member of the same corp. there you go, a nice remedy for player stupidity. Besides, theft is theft. If a player sees theft of ore as a potential way for profit, he/she may have to rethink his "profession".
That sounds good... But that goes with the hostile act idea. AND OPENING JET CANS WILL NEVER BE A HOSTILE ACT. Jetting a objects(which makes a can is the same thing as destroying a player and there stuff is there in a jet can.
Now if you buy a unsecure container and use it and someone opens it, that should be a hostile act and they would get a sec hit and you could also shoot them.
IF you read my post above you would see I mentioned that when you buy a secure or non-secure can and anchor(as they now call it) in space you will see your char info in the cans info window. They are making it so that opening those(which now belong to a player) is a hostile act.
Putting a regular jet can out in space, weither it be by, jetting cargo or destroying a rat or PC. Does not put ownership on the object and never will. So anybody can open it.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.05 16:41:00 -
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can we make OPENING JET CANS A HOSTILE ACT please....
hehe
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Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?"
Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't"
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.05 16:48:00 -
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Many people use some real life example like if you left your wallet on the street or your keys in your car. But those are far from wrong. They are not the same. Your Wallet has your info and ID on it. Your car is IDed somewhere as yours. Taking those two thing that aren't yours is a hostile act.
Using a jet can for mining is more like using the atm and dumping the money on the side of the steet as you collect it. The game just decides to put it all in a container. Now that the money is on the side of the steet anybody could take it. Even a cop could take it and nothing happen because it is now not a hostile act. especailly if you walk away from it to get your car(indy) to collect it in. Don't be surprised if it isn't there when you get back and its your fault for not putting it in something that Identified it as your.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.05 17:00:00 -
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lol we got the message, please do nto repeat yourself again....
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Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't"
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.05 17:01:00 -
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lol we got the message, please do nto repeat yourself again....
Lol sorry. I didn't know weither to take your last post as a funny remark or a I don't understand remark.
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.05 17:05:00 -
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Here is what I think.
AFK miners and Carebear miners should be nerfed as well. To force them to get really earn there money and go out in the rest of the world. Ore Thiefs right now are the only means of doing this.
I see only the AFK miners and carebear miners crying about this anyway.
Newbs too but I don't think you should be able to steal from them.
I can see if the can is sitting right next to you when they come and steal ore as a hostile act. But if they were to impliment an idea like this I would make it so that as soon as you leave the belt and the can is no longer owned by you. That would fix the problem.
Or make it so Cops come and kill the thief only for players that are less then a week old.
CCP can't make everyone happy. If they totally kill Ore thiefs abilities. Other people will start whinning that AFK miners have it way to easy.
No if this Idea happened in game with no nerfing of the AFK/Carebear miners as well. I would start a petition agianst it, and would have alot of support. More so then the abillity to kill ore thiefs in 1.0 space.
If you want to kill ore thiefs then go to .4 and below otherwise buy secure cans.
If they really wanted to get rid of ore thiefs they would have made secure contains bottomless or expandable with how much ore you put in it. But they don't. Why, because of AFK/Carebear miners.
It would have been too easy to kill off that profession al long time ago. But EVE says you can become anything you want.
If they want to nerf that profession more. Then they should raise the the ability for Pirates(Neg sec rating players) to come into empire space and put in less cops. Or lower the amount of ore in empire space, make it real easy for a belt to disapear from over mining, so easy that it forces players to go out further.
Or make it so players over a month are not alowed to enter .8 and above belts.
Or Keep it the way it is.
I have seen Battleships in .8 systems striping belts clean leaving nothing for newb miners.
If you notice everyone goes to those systems to mine veld and other easy ore and then go out further and just mine the rest. They should go back to the old way of refilling the roid.
If you got to the .8 systems and above there is hardly any ore. I fyou go to the .2 belts for jaspet there is hardly any jaspet, Kernite, omber ect... and HUGE Veld and Scorite roids. So big you cann't even get close enough to mine them!!!
They Nerf Fighters. They Nerf Pirates. They Nerf PvP. I think they should Nerf Miners.
I heard a about a hacking skill that would allow you to hack into a secure can. That totally contradics what this poster is saying.
I say go ahead and allow this to happen. Then you will so pirates in Battleships coming in to steal your ore, go ahead and fire on them then. They would do it becuase they want your ore, but to start a fight so they can kill you for free.
I am not against AFK Miners that are newbies. I am against afk miners that are striping the belts in newb land.
I have another Char(unnamed) that ore steals. I don't REPEAT don't steal from the newby players. I see a guy in a Thorax mining with an unsecure can next to him. I go up and steal from it. And if they make that skill to allow players to hack secure cans I will make sure he gets that one too.
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.10 16:25:00 -
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Maybe they should make this topic a sticky.
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