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Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 318	Posted - 2013.12.06 22:42:00 - [1] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Like i said. Delusional. Spaceships are at the core of EVE Online. Wrong. PvP is the core of eve online. Spaceships are but one way we go after each other in this game. Personally, of Rubicon's features I could do without, I'd have gladly traded the new deployables for WiS. In the expansions since Incarna, not one has improved how I play the game. Most have been little more than re balancing existing content. I am the Walrus.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 320	Posted - 2013.12.06 23:50:00 - [2] - Quote SmilingVagrant wrote: It's time for my semianual "Yiffing in stations" post. I can't wait till the walls of every station resemble a slasher film where all of the blood has been replaced with spooge. Kind of like Second Life. Only if all goonswarm members have their avatars become furries. Kind of like Second Life. Miasmos wrote: mature content in station please with aurum unlocking bigger member and stuff Would give new meaning to 'implants' in game, that's for sure. I am the Walrus.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 320	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:13:00 - [3] - Quote Mekkimaru wrote: inb4 boob implant skill [Breast Augmentation] (x100) Increases breast size, regardless of gender, by 20% per skill level. Cosmetic Surgery Skill (x5) Able to use cosmetic implants. Prerequisites: Science 3 I am the Walrus.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 322	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:10:00 - [4] - Quote Little Dragon Khamez wrote: It was at this time the csm convinced CCP that the rage was about avatars and that eve should be fis, because they primarily were only interested in fis development and wanted sov fixed, but that's what you get when the csm only represents null sec vested interests. In game politicians hijacked community anger to further their own ends forgetting that they represented the whole community even the ones that didn't vote for them. Yeah, that was an impressive highjack, and shows that PvP isn't just limited to fis. CCP had never really broached the idea of pay to win, but the nice thing about eve is they're willing to believe the worst, so a quick slippery slope fallacy and casting the leaked CCP documents in the worst possible light and people were getting ready to light bonfires under Hellmar. In retrospect, it was the greatest con ever pulled on the EvE Community, And there are still rubes who believe it to this day. I am the Walrus.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 331	Posted - 2013.12.07 12:51:00 - [5] - Quote It's nice that ISD thinks that accusing the previous CSM of misleading CCP is 'rumor mongering' despite the fact they made no bones about what they did, and have in fact been quite proud of it. It's not a 'rumor' when the people involved admit that it's true. I am the Walrus.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 331	Posted - 2013.12.07 17:52:00 - [6] - Quote It had nothing to do with incarna, it was about Pay 2 win. Something a lot of the FiS First crowd forget is that the opposition to incarna had nothing to do with people being opposed to WiS, but rather the implications that pay 2 win was the next step. I am the Walrus.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 339	Posted - 2013.12.08 14:01:00 - [7] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Beyond turning the station buttons into places you had to spend time walking to, what extra content would WiS allow? Depends on how you define real content. shuffles a deck of cards One thing I know I would like, having run more than one corp, is a corp office where members can have some 'face time, and maybe play poker while we sit around and bullshit in chat. Maybe chess for those with a more cerebral bent,. In station stores might allow you to have discounts for alliance members, or some such thing beyond what the market currently allows. I am the Walrus.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 341	Posted - 2013.12.08 17:32:00 - [8] - Quote Since I can vaguely recall it being mentioned as an idea going forward as far back as 2004, the above argument about 2006 seems silly. It's been a commonly proposed idea since the game first went live. However, I can say that micro-transactions in gaming have been around for a very long time. Anyone ever been to a video arcade? Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 351	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:10:00 - [9] - Quote Sorry, just looking at No Man's Sky (a exploration, resource harvesting, npc hunting, and PvP spaceships game with a single shared server) which also features atmospheric flight, line of sight combat, and getting out of one's space ship and exploring the surface of planets. Space Stations are not shown in the walking about parts, but one would assume that if they can generate things like the planets shown, space stations are also likely. While most of the shown gameplay is first person cockpit combat, larger, apparently player owned cap ships to appear in the background in some of the footage. Oh, and I also saw a Giant Sandworm in the preview footage. Which just gets some awesome points, but not sure if it's relevant to game play or not. I wonder if that will directly compete with eve? Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 352	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:50:00 - [10] - Quote For those who deny that there wil be any competition to eve in the near future: No Man's Sky sounds distinctively like it might give eve competition, though we're light on details at this time. The walking (and swimming under water!) graphics look gorgeous and the space flight looks good too. Anslo wrote: Welcome to GD Stitch. Also, if CCP implements the whole hack into someone's CQ, ambulate in, and beat the living snot out of em....well I have no idea what the argument against ambulation will then be. Headlines: TheMittani ganked in station by unknown assassins. In entirely unrelated news, CCP Goonalt announces CQ gank nerf. Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.

Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 355	Posted - 2013.12.10 18:16:00 - [11] - Quote Maybe because people have been asking for it since way back in the day when I was just a noob shooting it out with mo0 and STK Scientific's original guys in 03 and 04. Back when ships still had a crew stat and harvester drones dropped. Here;s the thing: You keep repeating that everyone in eve hated WiS, but A) we haven't actually had WiS yet. and B) The 'Summer of Rage' had to do with pay to win. I know, i was there. I might point out that many people who are quite well known for their being all about the space ships were in favor of WiS before they were against it. If you stroll over to, I believe, Ten Ton Hammer, you can read how the Mittani loved the idea. A whole lot of people wanted it very badly, and then were very unhappy when they saw what CCP delivered. Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 357	Posted - 2013.12.10 18:27:00 - [12] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: The same company said we've be flying in atmosphere too. Where are the FiA fanatics? Well, if they had gotten an expansion that only have them a hanger full of jets but then nothing to actually do with them... Oh, wait, nope, they got http://evevalkyrie.com/ . Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 360	Posted - 2013.12.10 18:36:00 - [13] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: CCP is concentrating on Flying space ships in CCP is doing nothing of the sort. They're 'concentrating' on new games. I don't know if you've noticed this, but actual 'new content' has been barely a trickle in the last few expansions. We got two new ships! (And might get a 3rd one if they can figure out wtf they're doing with it) and three deployables. And a new login screen. and some new loot tables that include bpcs for things that already spawn in game, but had no bps on the market. And some fixes for stuff they screwed up previously, or left out from previous expansions. Woo! So much Space Content! Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 360	Posted - 2013.12.10 18:40:00 - [14] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: The Kind of Wis stuff the WiS crowd envisions makes as much sense as Light Sabres in Star Trek Online. http://sto.gamepedia.com/Tholian_Crystalline_Sword You were saying? Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 360	Posted - 2013.12.10 21:53:00 - [15] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: This is a very good post in that it demonstrates the thing at the core of the WiS movement. Inability to appreciate the current EVE Online. And now we get to the crux of the matter. One. I've been here since way before 'the current' eve online. I can appreciate it just fine, because I've been here for pretty much everything that has added up to it. I even caused some content to be added through my actions. Jenn aSide wrote: THIS one blew my mind, it's changes so much about how I (as an explorer) do things. If all Rubicon did was add the mobile Depot it would have still be the single best expansion I've ever been a part of (being about to switch to defensive equipment before leaving a system where I just finished a plex has already saved my machariel FOUR times). If that smokes your noodle, I hate to have seen the mess at your keyboard if you'd have been around for Castor when we got T2 or RMR when they dropped in 23 new ships. You think Outpost is a game changer? Warp Stabs were a game changer. I remember when they introduced your mach. The morgue would have had to squeegee your brain matter off the monitor. Go talk to some of the old guys in your corp about how things were back in the old days of Curse and Stain and Fountain (oh my!) We got real expansions back in those days and we'd get down on our knees and pray that CCP TomB wasn't going to nerf the ** out of whatever setup we had going on. Jenn aSide wrote:** The community says "damn it, it's a spaceship game, screw walking around and crap". CCP responds be refocusing on spaceships and people start yelling "hey, were's my WiS" lol. As soon as CCP responds to the "threadnaughts" about local and afk cloaking, the community will demand to know why they weren't consulted before CCP axes local and afk cloaking lol. Well, to be honest I doubt we'll see the end of afk cloaks or local any time soon. CCP have already said as much. The community did not say 'screw WiS'. a small vocal minority did (some of whom also continue to insist for some reason, that EvE ships don't have crews, despite fluff AND the fact that all eve ships originally had a crew stat.). The rest of us were pissed off because of P2W and the fact that despite promising WiS, CCP delivered absolutely nothing of the sort. I'll wager you 500 billion isk that if a WiS expansion came out, and was in no way tied to P2W, the best you might muster is 20 guys and their alts banging on the statue. Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 367	Posted - 2013.12.11 14:03:00 - [16] - Quote Elizabeth Brown wrote: Maybe in a couple of years sounds great. But, at the moment CCP are working towards a 5 year plan to add star gates that we can make. If we want WiS in a couple of years, then they're going to have to drop that dream for a start. I would be happy with that. I would be happy if they had a 5 year plan to add Walking in Stations, so long as they had a plan. Working towards it slowly like they are working towards the star gate thing would be an ideal. Personally I think the stargate thing is asinine. Unless the rules for it will be like the rules for POS, it means that they're going to be spending years working on content only a few powerful alliances will get to use. We've had that before with the previous sov overhaul. You know, the one that needs overhauled because it was craptacular? Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 371	Posted - 2013.12.12 00:44:00 - [17] - Quote Little Dragon Khamez wrote: I don't buy this whole 5 year plan bollox, how can it take 5 years to add a new map and stargates to the game. You can randomly seed a map for game use in like 1 second, plus the gate graphics have already been made as we fly through them every day. Setting up the PI/Manufacturing requirements for the gate is trivial, just another DB entry and allowing them to deploy is as simple as adding in a different class of POS to the map. Being generous this is one expansion's worth of work at best. I reiterate that EVE is in maintainence mode and that this whole 5 year plan has been dreamed up by CCP to give the illusion of ongoing work to us the playebase whilst they concentrate on the side projects. Well, in this case I can explain it: it's the additional hardware. EvE has had quite a few server upgrades across it's history. It's nto just generating the map, it's the underlaying hardware and code to support it. My estimate though would be it would take about a year, unless finances are an issue. Personally I think we'll see POS and Sov overhauls first. They've been putting POS overhauls off for years and years now. Originally they claimed they did not want to try and fix it as they had ditched the original programmer for them and he had apparently not left any notes. They've done a few things with it since, but have generally left it alone. I can only surmise then that they are going to recode them from the ground up. Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 376	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:16:00 - [18] - Quote You guys obviously don't frequent minmatar chat if you find this even remotely unusual. Like I said before and was removed by a mod, get that screen streaming, and I will give you... Big Johnson Industries: We don't even have to undock to make major alliances STAY docked. Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 376	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:22:00 - [19] - Quote Lugalbandak wrote: wich game? there arnt any games comming out who you can compare with eve. really ccp is mild in posting her with other games, you ment SC? Recite the Litanies. Raise the Geller Field. Prepare for Warp Transit to Cadia. Warhammer 40k Online is now back in the pipeline, Praise the Emperor! No Man's Sky and arguably Star Citizen also both target key EvE demographics as well. Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 380	Posted - 2013.12.13 19:56:00 - [20] - Quote Nadia Barsrallah wrote: To my knowledge WiS, and WoD are based off the unity engine. That with the fact that CCP has a prefab library, means that fleshing out actual enviroments is very trivial in dev time. Shhh... exposing trolls to facts is like exposing vampires to sunlight. I didn't bring enough mops and buckets to clean up that sort of mess. Rhes wrote: [ Fleshing out environments isn't what the pro-WiS people are crying for. They want card games, dance emotes, and a bunch of hilariously bad roleplaying nonsense. Also, wizard robes. Caution: You are dangerously close to mocking one of the Mittani's suggestions. GoonSoc directs you to report to immediately to mandatory goon reeducation at MiniLove. Advisement: Per recent policy changes, you are to shave your groin before reporting for reeducation to ensure longer car battery life. War is peace, ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery. Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.

Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 380	Posted - 2013.12.13 20:18:00 - [21] - Quote Halcyon Harvey wrote: People talk about this man all the time. Is he some kind of skinny Remedial? Acceptable answers are "Yes" and "Ham". He invariably comes up in threads where random goons start trying to throw their weight around. The sad part is that goons before him were ok guys who were kinda fun. Now days it's like Davros and a bunch of Daleks., Mittenros: I proclaim this will be awesome and all the forum shall kneel before it! Goonleks: OBEY! OBEY! So when a goon stats spouting nonsense not in step with the party line, it's fun to bring up that The Mittani has stated otherwise. Anslo wrote: EVA gameplay where you blow up another ship from the inside or explore a sleeper ruin is actually card games and strippers? WHODA THUNK IT?! In all fairness, can we not have all of the above? Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 389	Posted - 2013.12.20 20:46:00 - [22] - Quote Dr Vitoc wrote: No real point about Wis unless they are going to have sub games in side like WOW dungeons oh yea and showing your epeen DUST trophies Epeen measuring will be a new source of PvP content. Hmmm.... Let me amend that: It will be a source of PvP content, as it's hardly new around here... Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.

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