I don't even see why this is a problem. If you accidentally or deliberately leave part of your ship hanging outside the forcefield, the consequences should be squarely on your shoulders.

I don't even see why this is a problem. If you accidentally or deliberately leave part of your ship hanging outside the forcefield, the consequences should be squarely on your shoulders.

Fully Agree... but now it seems they deem it an Exploit. So I push for them removing the ways this could "Accidentally" Occur. Remove mechanics that let players Force exploits like that to occur. Triaging just slightly out of the shield or Bridging for example. Countless times those massive ships just squeeze out to light with no risk at all. Now if you bump it they can claim you exploited a mechanic... Force these skills to be done fully outside of the shield. This also Increases Content for all the Null corps AND increases Conflict as the game got a lot more deadly for that capital.

Exactly. I'm honestly scratching my head wondering if there's more to this, and people have found a way around the changes that were supposed to fix this old school 'POS Bowling' thing that I'm reading about. Because it doesn't really seem to be much of an exploit to cry about someone being able to bump your ship when you left part of it hanging outside the POS field.

Marking bumping during e-warp an exploit is ok - player has no control during this process and should not be punished for the limitations of the game.

But making bumping of a ship sticking out of a POS shield an exploit?? Players have full control over where they park their ships and RESPONSIBILITY to make sure that place is safe and/or suitable for their class of ship.

Stupidest example: "Buhu, who needs a full size tower, I'll just use this small one. I'm sure no-one will mind if I park my big ass Ragnarok inside."

These things have happened and will continue to do so. It's one of the things that make EVE what it is - a place where player choices have long reaching consequences!! If you tried to park a Jumbo Jet in your suburban driveway, I'm sure the police won't come arrest people who complain you're blocking the street.


CCP, please stop dumbing up this game - stop protecting lazy idiots from the consequences of their mistakes! If they want to keep their ship safe from bumping, there are already a plethora of things people can do to prevent it.

In original dev blog there is not a single word about ships (partially)sticking out of force fields. I guess there is a bug(expliot) that allows a ship outside of FF to bump a ship inside it without password. As CCP dont want to give any details on exploit they have to give only general information ("ship in a force field vs ship outside") and i'm not sure where you got that bumping ship sticking out of FF will be considered exploit too.

The way they put it leaves a lot open for interpretation. Even if they didn't include the bumping of exposed parts into the exploit designation, for as long as people don't know that, kills that might otherwise happen won't occur because many will be reluctant to bump exposed ships out of the fear of getting banned.

As I see it, if CCP declares something an exploit, it is then their responsibility to change the code to make the exploit impossible. Simply because we will stop talking about the exploit after we run out of things to say. Then new players will join Eve. Then one of them will think the exploit is a good idea and do it before anyone tells them it's an exploit.

Wrong.
If there's an known exploit you can do 3 things:
1. Nothing
2. Fix it
3. do #1 but penalize people who use it and close the case.