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Aih-Li Tahn
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:06:00 -
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OK who was the smart man who figure that "oh hey defending ur space from pubs farming it is too easy" and decided giving EASY MODE to BATTLESHIPS was good? there are some of us who work very hard to maintein space and upgrades and tokeep it secured. we spent a lot of isk and time for what affect? To have a battlship STROLING THROUGH leving no anoms?! its like CCP doesnt care about its vets at all...... oh wait. they dont.
sigh  |

E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
345
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:09:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:OK who was the smart man who figure that "oh hey defending ur space from pubs farming it is too easy" and decided giving EASY MODE to BATTLESHIPS was good? there are some of us who work very hard to maintein space and upgrades and tokeep it secured. we spent a lot of isk and time for what affect? To have a battlship STROLING THROUGH leving no anoms?! its like CCP doesnt care about its vets at all...... oh wait. they dont. sigh  Confirming Nullbear tears are best tears. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2024
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:09:00 -
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What's wrong, they don't teach you to fit scrams in the Ministry of War? Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1668
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:09:00 -
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What? Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
507
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:10:00 -
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Use a scram you fool. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Aih-Li Tahn
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:12:00 -
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where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
2190
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:15:00 -
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If there are no anoms left in your upgraded system, you might want to fire your sov manager, he might be a tad bit incompetent. |

Eru GoEller
State War Academy Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:17:00 -
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Hmm, if they killed all the anoms then some of your system upgrades benefits from their work. Should give you time to kill them, while they're busy grinding anoms. Except if your group find it to be funnier to grind anoms, rather then killing pubs. Something makes me think they aren't pubs if it's that hard to kill them. |

Gealbhan
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
496
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:18:00 -
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What is this, I don't even...  |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
832
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:19:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:OK who was the smart man who figure that "oh hey defending ur space from pubs farming it is too easy" and decided giving EASY MODE to BATTLESHIPS was good? there are some of us who work very hard to maintein space and upgrades and tokeep it secured. we spent a lot of isk and time for what affect? To have a battlship STROLING THROUGH leving no anoms?! its like CCP doesnt care about its vets at all...... oh wait. they dont. sigh 
Don't know what a Warp scram is?
CCP, trading shiny pictures for playability since 2003.. EvE, a cutting edge game. The only game to provide Matrix style gameplay for the masses! (trouble is, most people don't have 9 hours to waste on a one hour fight.) |
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2025
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:19:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless
Look, it's not CCP's job to teach you how to pilot your damn ship so that you can get in scram range of a battleship. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |

Aih-Li Tahn
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:23:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless Look, it's not CCP's job to teach you how to pilot your damn ship so that you can get in scram range of a battleship. the **** are you talking about, do u use faction scram and links, bro? Go take a pvp class then come back, friggin ignorenat ppl |

SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
319
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:25:00 -
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OP is terrible at PvP and felt like sharing that information with us.
Thanks, OP! |

Pandora Barzane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:29:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless Look, it's not CCP's job to teach you how to pilot your damn ship so that you can get in scram range of a battleship. the **** are you talking about, do u use faction scram and links, bro? Go take a pvp class then come back, friggin ignorenat ppl
suit you sir!
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2025
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:29:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless Look, it's not CCP's job to teach you how to pilot your damn ship so that you can get in scram range of a battleship. the **** are you talking about, do u use faction scram and links, bro? Go take a pvp class then come back, friggin ignorenat ppl
No, bro. By the strength of my back and the sweat of my brow do I sail my fair space galleon among the stars, until the prow is surely aimed amidships of my foe. With great effort do we heave the grapples that draw us in alongside, so that we may board our quarry, slit the throat of her captain, and claim the treasure for ourselves.
Or, to be brief, I fly within 9k and activate my scram. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |

Lux0r
MCG13
7
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:32:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless
Try an Arazu...
Cloak, probe out ratter, warp to within 20km. With a faction scram fit you should be able to point them with no problem at that range (unless ofc they're warp core stab fit).
Just remember, in EVE there is pretty much a counter for everything!
Would also recommend before you start slinging around stuff like "Learn2PVP", you actually practice what you preach when it comes to learning the game mechanics. I've been playing for 7+ years and I still learn new tricks all the time. |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
482
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:33:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless
You are poor so scrams are useless.
Protip: ship bonuses fleet booster faction scram. 9km you say? Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
204
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:39:00 -
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Sorry, I'll leave an anom or two for you next time. In fact, had I known how upset you'd get I wouldn't have done them all. Wolfbane Hauler Inc Looking For Combat And Industrial Pilots |

Quinn Corvez
Probe Patrol Polarized.
127
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:42:00 -
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lol what a newb... Use a ship with a bonus to scram range or scan the guy down when he is in a sight. Sounds to me like the op is the one who wants an easy mode. |

Aih-Li Tahn
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:44:00 -
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Quinn Corvez wrote:lol what a newb... Use a ship with a bonus to scram range or scan the guy down when he is in a sight. Sounds to me like the op is the one who wants an easy mode. yes until rubicon everything was easy mode pls..... |
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1203
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:47:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:there are some of us who work very hard to maintein space and upgrades and tokeep it secured
Work harder. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
234
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:49:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless
H_e_a_v_y
I_n_t_e_r_d_i_c_t_i_o_n
C_r_u_i_s_e_r |

Aih-Li Tahn
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:52:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless H_e_a_v_y I_n_t_e_r_d_i_c_t_i_o_n C_r_u_i_s_e_r MJDs work thru bubles l2p |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
234
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:52:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless H_e_a_v_y I_n_t_e_r_d_i_c_t_i_o_n C_r_u_i_s_e_r MJDs work thru bubles l2p
Sigh, null space? Infinite point?
and the MJD has a pretty long spool up time also and cool down time. |

Charles Wu-Wong
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
27
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:58:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless
Lolwut?
(only acceptable answer) |

Karrl Tian
Bourbon Bandits Anarchy.
269
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:06:00 -
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At least somebody's using that empty space. |

Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2082
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:12:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless
Now I know you're either trolling badly or incredibly stupid. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Shadow Love
Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations
87
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:13:00 -
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Confirming from this thread that battleships are solo pwnmobiles. |

Aih-Li Tahn
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:13:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless Now I know you're either trolling badly or incredibly stupid. how does one troll by just stating the facts? |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
482
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:16:00 -
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Just get out Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
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Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2083
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:20:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless H_e_a_v_y I_n_t_e_r_d_i_c_t_i_o_n C_r_u_i_s_e_r MJDs work thru bubles l2p
So do... wait for it
INTERCEPTORS!!! You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2083
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:22:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless Now I know you're either trolling badly or incredibly stupid. how does one troll by just stating the facts?
You stated that scrams are useless.
This is not a fact.
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Aih-Li Tahn
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:24:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless H_e_a_v_y I_n_t_e_r_d_i_c_t_i_o_n C_r_u_i_s_e_r MJDs work thru bubles l2p So do... wait for it INTERCEPTORS!!! dont get me started on those things its just another way ccp **** on null this expansion, where is mittani when u need him? |

Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1006
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:31:00 -
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Cynter DeVries wrote: Tactically Enhanced Acceptably Rebalanced Ships
I guess that includes modules, too. CCP, you're doin' it right. If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg |

Kate stark
924
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:31:00 -
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i don't understand what's going on here.
all i can gather is that the OP may have been dropped at birth, i think. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2157
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:50:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless
You are a laugh a minute. |

Aih-Li Tahn
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:09:00 -
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ya look at all the trols who just like putting ppl down. this comunity is amazin |

Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
375
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:17:00 -
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Losing a battleship to a handful of wanna-be pvpers pretending gate camping is real gameplay is not fun.
Trying to make an argument based on your personal definition of fun is always going to fail, because no one cares what you personally find enjoyable. |

Denak Calamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
130
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:18:00 -
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I finally took the effort to actually post something in GD thanks to this thread.
Thank you OP, you made the roleplayer happy.
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Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1181
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:21:00 -
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Man, i have seen some incoherent garbage posts in my time, but this one takes the cake. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6695
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:23:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:where do u expect to get with a ********** 9 km crap scram?do u want to CATCH stuff or BUMP it?
srsly, try pvping sometime. Scrams are useless H_e_a_v_y I_n_t_e_r_d_i_c_t_i_o_n C_r_u_i_s_e_r MJDs work thru bubles l2p Sigh, null space? Infinite point? and the MJD has a pretty long spool up time also and cool down time. I could be wrong but I was under the impression the scripted WDFG doesn't stop MJD. Only scram does. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
838
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:27:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote: Scrams are better than disruptors in every imaginable way
Fixed it for you That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
206
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:31:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:ya look at all the trols who just like putting ppl down. this comunity is amazin
You're right! Something must be done! I know! Biomass all of your toons and we'll have one less troll. I'd ask for your stuff, but the guy in the battleship probably took all of it already. Wolfbane Hauler Inc Looking For Combat And Industrial Pilots |

Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2084
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:32:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:ya look at all the trols who just like putting ppl down. this comunity is amazin
You have been told why you are wrong. You are wrong about MJD-fit battleships being impossible to catch, you are wrong about warp scramblers being crap, and you are wrong about CCP screwing up interceptors. MJD is something I never use for PVP because it's too EASY to catch, warp scramblers are the only modules that effectively break MWD-fit kiters or frigate brawlers, and interceptors are now capable at intercepting.
You have a lot of rage, grasshopper, and much emotion. It is messing with your ability to produce rational thought processes. That is why people think you are incapable of rational thought processes. Prove them wrong, or don't complain when they call you out. Bottom line is, based on what you've said, you're either a troll, or a moron. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
187
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:35:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:What's wrong, they don't teach you to fit scrams in the Ministry of War?
That Ministry of War didn't give nothing to no-one.
The organization is full of bunch of bureaucrats lining their own pockets if you ask me. . |

Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
728
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:48:00 -
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The OP is a really bland troll and I can't believe you people really fell for this. |

TharOkha
0asis Group
659
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:52:00 -
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Micro jump is killing pvp, mobile depots are killing pvp, WCSs are killing pvp, falcons are killing pvp.. (......oh and Scram is useless in pvp..)
so what it will be next? stay tuned for tomorrows GD posts an you will find out.. (and now, steve with the weather) GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldnt the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

Mr Pragmatic
769
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:59:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Micro jump is killing pvp, mobile depots are killing pvp, WCSs are killing pvp, falcons are killing pvp.. (......oh and Scram is useless in pvp..)
so what it will be next? stay tuned for tomorrows GD posts an you will find out.. (and now, steve with the weather)
Pvp is dying. Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness. -á-Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3765
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Posted - 2013.12.07 00:32:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:OK who was the smart man who figure that "oh hey defending ur space from pubs farming it is too easy" and decided giving EASY MODE to BATTLESHIPS was good? there are some of us who work very hard to maintein space and upgrades and tokeep it secured. we spent a lot of isk and time for what affect? To have a battlship STROLING THROUGH leving no anoms?! its like CCP doesnt care about its vets at all...... oh wait. they dont. sigh 
Welcome to the obligatory "show me on your KB where the module touched you".
Wait'll they also start equipping those same ships with Target Lock Breakers so you can't hit them with cruise... oh those suck. Never mind.
I would recommend more bubbles. I have seen dozens on a gate at one time. So don't act like you can't afford them.
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GreenSeed
766
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Posted - 2013.12.07 01:14:00 -
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just in case no one mentioned it yet, the OP is a renter. not just a renter, but the worst kind of renter, the stupid kind.
has absolutely no idea of how to keep "his" space safe, and the problem is most of the advice given here doesn't apply, because his landlord doesn't allow it.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3767
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Posted - 2013.12.07 01:20:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Micro jump is killing pvp, mobile depots are killing pvp, WCSs are killing pvp, falcons are killing pvp.. (......oh and Scram is useless in pvp..)
so what it will be next? stay tuned for tomorrows GD posts an you will find out.. (and now, steve with the weather)
Obamacare is killing PVP. |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
951
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Posted - 2013.12.07 01:30:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:OK who was the smart man who figure that "oh hey defending ur space from pubs farming it is too easy" and decided giving EASY MODE to BATTLESHIPS was good? there are some of us who work very hard to maintein space and upgrades and tokeep it secured. we spent a lot of isk and time for what affect? To have a battlship STROLING THROUGH leving no anoms?! its like CCP doesnt care about its vets at all...... oh wait. they dont. sigh  If you're incapable of catching a microjumpdrive battleship in the time it takes to spool up its drive you don't deserve sov. A Keres, Arazu or Proteus are all capable of scramming past 16k.
All frigs, elite or otherwise are capable of getting within range and scramming a battleship at a gate before it can MJD. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6696
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Posted - 2013.12.07 01:54:00 -
[53] - Quote
GreenSeed wrote:just in case no one mentioned it yet, the OP is a renter. not just a renter, but the worst kind of renter, the stupid kind.
has absolutely no idea of how to keep "his" space safe, and the problem is most of the advice given here doesn't apply, because his landlord doesn't allow it.
Ministry of War is renting space now? Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

GreenSeed
767
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Posted - 2013.12.07 01:56:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:GreenSeed wrote:just in case no one mentioned it yet, the OP is a renter. not just a renter, but the worst kind of renter, the stupid kind.
has absolutely no idea of how to keep "his" space safe, and the problem is most of the advice given here doesn't apply, because his landlord doesn't allow it.
Ministry of War is renting space now? forum alts are killing eve. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
605

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Posted - 2013.12.07 02:01:00 -
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MJD's have been in the game for some time now. Starting a rant about them now is a bit late. But still, it is a rant. As such, thread locked.
The rules: 3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. ISD Ezwal Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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