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Tenchuu Khaan
Vagabond Association
5
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:04:00 -
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Now, I have linked and said a ton of garbage over the years in EVE channels without anyone actually being bothered by it - especially in the Ships channel (cheers from Hitomi folks) - thus it was quite a surprise to me when I received an official warning over something I have linked which offended somebody else which, according to CCP, violates the EULA
Now I don't disagree with CCPs approach in general but - use your ******* brains mates Here's the actual quote to get that off the list
n++[ 2013.12.07 18:09:12 ] Tenchuu Khaan > ansonsten, wenn ihr sexistischen Sarkasmus schon nicht versteht dann zumindest rassistischen oder? ;) http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Super+Ultra+******+9000.+NOT+OC+Thought+it+was+funny_d99aa8_3671083.jpg
Now, prior to that linking we had a convo on TS which went a bit like this "Align to new broadcast.... squad warps, squad warps" And I'm like "Could a man repeat that please? I'm don't really like taking orders from women"
Which somehow was taken seriously To point out how it was meant I dropped the line above which translates to: "Now, if you don't understand sexist sarcasm, what about racist sarcasm? http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Super+Ultra+******+9000.+NOT+OC+Thought+it+was+funny_d99aa8_3671083.jpg"
Several hours later I received a neat mail from CCP pointing out that I have linked something which violates the EULA Since the only other criminal thing I have linked around that time is a song by the Kelly Family, I could only assume that CCP talked about mentioned picture above.
And that pretty much concludes my EVE Adventure for today. I can only hope that CCP Support Staff gets it through their skull that they were being trolled by a player who exploited the Reporting function and that I'm not a white supremacist trying to recruit pilots for the Ku-Klux Klan :D |

Dont UseYourAlt OnTheForums
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:17:00 -
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So you belong to ku klux klan and still you arent wrong?
CCP please just perma ban this guy, we dont want hus gansgta kind in here. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2686
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:18:00 -
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Hey, I also earned a warning once, when I posted a artistic photograph displaying full frontal nudity.
Of course, I won't do that again, and also didn't discussed it. 
As former moderator and administrator of several forums, my advice is: never discuss his job with the ban button guy. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
4534
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:19:00 -
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ib4l
additionally, sexist and racist sarcasm is actually rarely humorous and mostly just serves to highlight the general douche qualities of the individual communicating it. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2686
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:20:00 -
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Eurydia Vespasian wrote:ib4l
additionally, sexist and racist sarcasm is actually rarely humorous and mostly just serves to highlight the general douche qualities of the individual communicating it.
At least it displays poor taste and/or judgement. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
841
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:21:00 -
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Tenchuu Khaan wrote:Now, I have linked and said a ton of garbage over the years in EVE channels without anyone actually being bothered by it - especially in the Ships channel (cheers from Hitomi folks) - thus it was quite a surprise to me when I received an official warning over something I have linked which offended somebody else which, according to CCP, violates the EULA Now I don't disagree with CCPs approach in general but - use your ******* brains mates Here's the actual quote to get that off the list n++[ 2013.12.07 18:09:12 ] Tenchuu Khaan > ansonsten, wenn ihr sexistischen Sarkasmus schon nicht versteht dann zumindest rassistischen oder? ;) http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Super+Ultra+******+9000.+NOT+OC+Thought+it+was+funny_d99aa8_3671083.jpg Now, prior to that linking we had a convo on TS which went a bit like this "Align to new broadcast.... squad warps, squad warps" And I'm like "Could a man repeat that please? I'm don't really like taking orders from women" Which somehow was taken seriously To point out how it was meant I dropped the line above which translates to: "Now, if you don't understand sexist sarcasm, what about racist sarcasm? http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Super+Ultra+******+9000.+NOT+OC+Thought+it+was+funny_d99aa8_3671083.jpg" Several hours later I received a neat mail from CCP pointing out that I have linked something which violates the EULA Since the only other criminal thing I have linked around that time is a song by the Kelly Family, I could only assume that CCP talked about mentioned picture above. And that pretty much concludes my EVE Adventure for today. I can only hope that CCP Support Staff gets it through their skull that they were being trolled by a player who exploited the Reporting function and that I'm not a white supremacist trying to recruit pilots for the Ku-Klux Klan :D
Please set yourself on fire, mate. The world no longer needs your services.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1201
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:22:00 -
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Dont UseYourAlt OnTheForums wrote:So you belong to ku klux klan and still you arent wrong?
CCP please just perma ban this guy, we dont want hus gansgta kind in here.
This is blatenly offensive. Something should be done! ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Davon Mandra'thin
Rotten Legion Ops
276
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:24:00 -
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Dude, just biomass your character and unsub. No one wants your racist **** here. |

Tenchuu Khaan
Vagabond Association
5
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:26:00 -
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Eurydia Vespasian wrote:ib4l
additionally, sexist and racist sarcasm is actually rarely humorous and mostly just serves to highlight the general douche qualities of the individual communicating it.
It's not anyone else's fault that you are too dumb for sarcasm. Nice try though attempting to convince us that it is.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
14797
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:29:00 -
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In before ISD edits, in before you get another warning or a forum ban.
If you can't see how somebody could be offended then I feel sorry for you. I am furnishing this post "as is" I do not provide any warranty whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for purpose or any warranty that the contents herein are error-free.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
346
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:31:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Eurydia Vespasian wrote:ib4l
additionally, sexist and racist sarcasm is actually rarely humorous and mostly just serves to highlight the general douche qualities of the individual communicating it. At least it displays poor taste and/or judgement.
There is no such thing as poor taste, just taste. Judgement can be called poor if you're aware of the consequences of your actions but continue anyway.
just sayin.
The phrase: That's offensive. It carries no information. I enjoy the removal of some of our more toxic siblings, but deplore the use of cleaning mechanisms as meta game. Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
841
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:32:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote: Please set yourself on fire, mate. The world no longer needs your services.
Funny how the trolls that cry to GM's tend to be more offensive and violent then the people they pretend to be bothered by. CCP would do a great service to the community and themselves by reminding poeple about that amazing /block feature.
What I said was offensive? Are defending this assclown?
First of all, the moment he said that, she should have booted him from fleet, called him primary, and kicked him from corp upon podding. Uncalled for BS that has no place in any walk of life.
Second of all... 5% of the playerbase is female. Women are getting more and more into video games and nerd culture, in general. Why in the actual hell would anyone want to discourage that? I honestly don't understand the level of stupidity it takes to drive an entire gender out of a completely unisex activity.
Lastly... getting mad at everyone because you violated the rules and got in trouble, is petulant and stupid. OP needs to shut his mouth and GTFO. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Tenchuu Khaan
Vagabond Association
5
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:33:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:In before ISD edits, in before you get another warning or a forum ban.
If you can't see how somebody wouldn't be offended then I feel sorry for you.
Reading isn't about recognizing patterns which ultimately leads to recognizing letters and later on words or sentences. It's about making sense of it. You Sir, have failed that task and ended up in the "complete retards" section of my contact list. Now **** off and annoy someone else's thread |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
14798
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:36:00 -
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Tenchuu Khaan wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:In before ISD edits, in before you get another warning or a forum ban.
If you can't see how somebody wouldn't be offended then I feel sorry for you. Reading isn't about recognizing patterns which ultimately leads to recognizing letters and later on words or sentences. It's about making sense of it. You Sir, have failed that task and ended up in the "complete retards" section of my contact list. Now **** off and annoy someone else's thread And you sir are an arse.
My previous post has been edited, drunk posting is almost as good an idea as drunk roaming  I am furnishing this post "as is" I do not provide any warranty whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for purpose or any warranty that the contents herein are error-free.
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
842
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:36:00 -
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Tenchuu Khaan wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:In before ISD edits, in before you get another warning or a forum ban.
If you can't see how somebody wouldn't be offended then I feel sorry for you. Reading isn't about recognizing patterns which ultimately leads to recognizing letters and later on words or sentences. It's about making sense of it. You Sir, have failed that task and ended up in the "complete retards" section of my contact list. Now **** off and annoy someone else's thread
Why are you not on fire, yet? That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
3842
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:39:00 -
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IB4L
I like Bacon. Zimmy Zeta -I f*cking love martinis.the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. |

Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
3842
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:40:00 -
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DP...
I like EVE. Zimmy Zeta -I f*cking love martinis.the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2686
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:45:00 -
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Tenchuu Khaan wrote:Eurydia Vespasian wrote:ib4l
additionally, sexist and racist sarcasm is actually rarely humorous and mostly just serves to highlight the general douche qualities of the individual communicating it. It's not anyone else's fault that you are too dumb for sarcasm. Nice try though attempting to convince us that it is.
If it is not coming across as sarcasm, then you're doing it wrong and should adapt your messaging to the receiver.
Also EV is true: derogatory humor rarely comes across as humorous unless the target (at least) takes it literally. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Tenchuu Khaan
Vagabond Association
5
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:49:00 -
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Tollen Gallen wrote:DP...
I like EVE. Fascinating, did you ever question the purpose of your existence? I'm not even joking or being sarcastic. I'm merely shocked that a human being can accept itself as such while wasting its time hitting that key combination |

Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
208
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Posted - 2013.12.07 21:55:00 -
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10/10
WILL read again Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity. |
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Tenchuu Khaan
Vagabond Association
5
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:03:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Tenchuu Khaan wrote:Eurydia Vespasian wrote:ib4l
additionally, sexist and racist sarcasm is actually rarely humorous and mostly just serves to highlight the general douche qualities of the individual communicating it. It's not anyone else's fault that you are too dumb for sarcasm. Nice try though attempting to convince us that it is. If it is not coming across as sarcasm, then you're doing it wrong and should adapt your messaging to the receiver. Also EV is true: derogatory humor rarely comes across as humorous unless the target (at least) takes it literally. We might as well blame teachers that our kids aren't geniuses
Of course, a joke is always a dialogue and you have to know your audience in order to drop the right joke at the right time.
It's not like I dropped this thread because somebody didn't laugh at my joke, - I doubt I have to explain that to you.
The matter at hand is that CCP sent me an official warning over something an obvious troll reported... just because it somehow fits the racism line in the EULA. And to remind you, it was in the Fleet channel .
Let me rephrase all that well-said garbage i just spit out: Do you believe that I did try to spread racism and thus I am a threat to the EVE Community? |

Jove Death
The Jovian Navy
249
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:03:00 -
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I f you were in my fleet I would have dropped u there and then
and kicked your ass back to pre monolithic life Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek
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Myriad Blaze
103
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:04:00 -
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So you posted some racist crap in a chat channel and got an official warning ... and now you want to discuss the GM actions and post the same crap they warned you not to post again? 
Very smart.
IBTL.
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Sirinda
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
261
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:06:00 -
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This thread is going places. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
3053
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:06:00 -
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Personally, I think the only suitable punishment for cretins as the OP is to be skinned alive and submerged in fine salt. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Tenchuu Khaan
Vagabond Association
5
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:09:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Personally, I think the only suitable punishment for cretins as the OP is to be skinned alive and submerged in fine salt. Reported |

Tenchuu Khaan
Vagabond Association
5
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:12:00 -
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Myriad Blaze wrote:So you posted some racist crap in a chat channel and got an official warning ... and now you want to discuss the GM actions and post the same crap they warned you not to post again?  Very smart. IBTL. Actually, i didn't spread any racism - that's the whole point Was it politically correct? Hell, no |

Impala59
While in Empire Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
14
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:12:00 -
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Tenchuu Khaan wrote:Alpheias wrote:Personally, I think the only suitable punishment for cretins as the OP is to be skinned alive and submerged in fine salt. Reported
Reported for reporting.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2687
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:17:00 -
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Tenchuu Khaan wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Tenchuu Khaan wrote:Eurydia Vespasian wrote:ib4l
additionally, sexist and racist sarcasm is actually rarely humorous and mostly just serves to highlight the general douche qualities of the individual communicating it. It's not anyone else's fault that you are too dumb for sarcasm. Nice try though attempting to convince us that it is. If it is not coming across as sarcasm, then you're doing it wrong and should adapt your messaging to the receiver. Also EV is true: derogatory humor rarely comes across as humorous unless the target (at least) takes it literally. We might as well blame teachers that our kids aren't geniuses Of course, a joke is always a dialogue and you have to know your audience in order to drop the right joke at the right time. It's not like I dropped this thread because somebody didn't laugh at my joke, - I doubt I have to explain that to you. The matter at hand is that CCP sent me an official warning over something an obvious troll reported... just because it somehow fits the racism line in the EULA. And to remind you, it was in the Fleet channel . Let me rephrase all that well-said garbage i just spit out: Do you believe that I did try to spread racism and thus I am a threat to the EVE Community?
You said something derogatory (humorous or don't, doesn't matters), a player was offended (for real or don't, it doesn't matters neither) and you were punished by breaching the EULA, because derogatory expressions, no matter the intent, breach the EULA:
http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-eula/?_ga=1.44605286.333492264.1325774901
Quote: 6.A.5: (...)You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.(...)
The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Myriad Blaze
103
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Posted - 2013.12.07 22:21:00 -
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Tenchuu Khaan wrote:Myriad Blaze wrote:So you posted some racist crap in a chat channel and got an official warning ... and now you want to discuss the GM actions and post the same crap they warned you not to post again?  Very smart. IBTL. Actually, i didn't spread any racism - that's the whole point Was it politically correct? Hell, no If you really believe that what you posted is not racism, than your moral compass is so far out of whack, that you couldn't even find the bathroom with it, even if your life depended on it. |
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