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shaolinp
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Posted - 2006.03.09 07:19:00 -
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hey chibi,
do i know ya from somewhere (another game)??i used to play. old clanmate
i left ya a message in game.
if youre not my apoligies
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JonShannow
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Posted - 2006.03.09 10:00:00 -
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Edited by: JonShannow on 09/03/2006 10:01:04
I have the odd problem with drones in missions, but usually if I move 30k + from the closest spawn, I have no problem.
Lil tip for EA 1/5 fit two thermal SBs warp in, sb the inties, warp out come back kill the rest at leisure.
Oh and if you duo 1/5 and the second person opens up on that initial spawn, they get aggroed from the rest, so its probably just a trigger when something other than you attacks that initial spawn.
Jon.
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Tripp Orsam
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Posted - 2006.03.09 15:23:00 -
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had this problem many times also, only solution ive found is to move away from the spawns until they are all about 40 or 50 km away then pull 1 group and WAIT for them to get close before releasing and drones. Its like the drones have an agro range of about 30 or 40km even to non hostile mission targets, not all missions have this problem i dont think, but alot do :(
pretty lame for people like me that rely almost exclusive on the drone damage.
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Mesuno
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Posted - 2006.03.09 15:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Ishen Villone
one of the new ones "Worlds Collide" has the same issue. The Serpentis fleet aggros you at the start, but if you launch drones the Gurrista fleet gets ****ed off too. The missile spam nearly locked up my computer >.<
Can we turn off missile effects!?
Aye - I lost my raven on this one. I was happily working my way through the serpentis group in the first area and the guristas group suddenly all agro'd.
There is no chance in hell my drone had shot at them, or a structure, because they were 130km away and there were no structures to be shot.
This is so badly bugged. The initial 2 volleys of heavy and cruise missiles from that guristas fleet took me straight down into armour from 30% sheilds too. Thats close to 4000 dmg in 20 seconds with my passive setup. I didn't petition at the time because I thought i'd just*****ed up but now I'm beginning to think it is simply bugged.
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Valigis
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Posted - 2006.03.09 15:51:00 -
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lost my domi on enemies abound. 
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2006.03.09 16:33:00 -
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lost my mega in enemies abound 
didnt fire a single shot and got wtfaggroed by everything when i unleashed my drones on the inties.
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2006.03.12 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Topodo
Edited by: Topodo on 05/03/2006 15:33:52
Isn't it possible that CCP designed some missions that discourage initial use of drones until you work the targets down in number?
Are some ships so dependent upon drones that you must have high drone skills, a pure ship tank, and immediately use drones to beat the missions?
Raven and small targets. Ever since the missile patch we have been told to use drones against them, since our large missiles hit for bugger all. I too have launched drones to take out the support frigates on Enemies Abound level 1 and had the whole mission descend on my head. This needs to be fixed, it is not logical behaviour.
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slip66
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Posted - 2006.03.12 20:10:00 -
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yeah its pretty annoying for any race really.
Originally by: StOrM ViPeR
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Valigis
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Posted - 2006.03.13 00:34:00 -
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need help!
how to do this mission now if my dominix bugged, possible for a mega? build？
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Voin
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Posted - 2006.03.13 04:57:00 -
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sorry for my english.
i'ld like insert as well couple of word's in to this thread...
Let me start from begining: there we go -
First patch about new drones and skills for it's.
as i remember that was a midlle of december... Most of the peoples get excited and as soon as patch came out they switched their primary learning to the Drones skill's section, as i did also and now i've 1 788 080 sp in there. I spent over 1 month for that and as i remeber i was fine with 300 000+ sp in Drones skill before that patch 3772.
Later most who used the drones with new skills started to find a bug's... And CCP got attention in that, wich we can see in the next announse (many fixes): there we go -
Drones and Weapons patch 3896
Now: as everyone can see drones still bugging, and bugging har (i lost 2 ravens so far by that with nice and expensive fit in there):
~ 1-st on the Silence the Importand 2-d stage, drones aggroed second group of mercs and i couldn't manage to warp out, cause of damage+lugg's+scrambling... (CCP didnt give me raven+fit back)
~ 2-d on the Worlds Collide 2-d location with Guristas, drones aggroed to me everyone in there + laggs as a slide show, and scrambling... Btw as soon as i warped out in the egg, laggs gone complitely... (seem CCP'll not return my raven aagain, cause without reply i found they close my petition with Solved mark, how, and with who they solved i've no an idea)
MAYBE TIME TO ASK CCP TO RETURN OUR SP FROM DRONES (SINCE DATE WITH PATCH 3772 CAME OUT, AND GIVE US A CHANCE TO PUT THOSE SP TO OTHER MORE USEFULL SKILL'S TILL THEY 'LL FIX DRONES COMPLITELY?
If someone won't to learning drones skill again later, can insert sp again to the drones skills, but i won't to use drones anymore, since those 2 lost's and prefer to wait till drones 'll work correct.
To CCP: i can understand bug's in there at the 1-st month, but 3 month's so far and drones still buging, and GOD know how longe they 'll keep buging. Common, do you belive u can tricking and foolish so many peoples so long time without any negative background?
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Zakgram
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Posted - 2006.03.13 15:52:00 -
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Lost my scorp in gustaris extravagansa only 2 nights ago... guess what happened... although interestingly my drones had been out for a while before the entire level then went mad (6 bs all wading in).
Couldn't warp due to fing scramble from a single stupid little frig that I couldn't target because of fing jamming - then when the jam finished it takes 30 secs to lock the fing frig, and even having loaded precision missiles I still couldn't kill it...
Oh well. Insurance helped to pay for the uninsured raven I'm now in. Maybe I'll not be deploying drones in it...
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zergo
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Posted - 2006.03.13 17:55:00 -
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There is nothing to do with drones behavior, I think, but with NPC reactions to drones.
My drones cannot attack or even target anyone from >100 km, but on many missions NPC agro them from such a distance. All of them at once. What is insane, very much.
Why not spent dev's time on fixing the whole drones mechanism, and not only few parts of it?!
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zergo
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Posted - 2006.03.13 18:02:00 -
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Voin's idea about SP relocation is practical, I think.
From mentioned patch notes it was clearly pointed that drones big changes are perspective and not waste of time (beside server loading decrease, what I believe didn't happened). Now I see that it was a kind of trick -- to promise a lot, but do not keep the promise. And it looks like there is nobody in CCP to account responsibility for what happened with drones...
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Voin
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Posted - 2006.03.14 23:30:00 -
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I'ld like to have a CCP responding over here...
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Denga Vulture
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Posted - 2006.03.20 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Voin
I'ld like to have a CCP responding over here...
I really hope so, too 
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Denga Vulture
The X-Trading Company
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.20 11:49:00 -
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Any news here after the Mission changes ? I just reactivated my account and dont want to lose my ships 
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Naran Darkmood
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.20 13:16:00 -
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still what you might call bugged, but in queit a few cases there are work arounds.
Get distance (60 km) to other spawns before releasing drones. This works for:
Serpentis extra - stage 4
Angels Extra - Stage 1
Silence the informat - stage 1 (keep your sentries under control, oder move until sentry towers are out of drone range)
Originally by: Jiekon
From what i`m aware of, reading the game rules, it's not against any rules to mine
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Krav
Egad Inc.
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.20 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Krav on 20/11/2006 14:01:41
Originally by: Toaster Oven
Originally by: Denga Vulture
Well sounds logic.... but why not in missions like Silent the Informant stage 2 ? You can lauch your drones 15 km from another spawn without aggroing it  
Because not all missions are bugged?
Exactly... And it confuses me, because Zrakor said it had to do with npc aggro patterns and a fix has been needed for a long time. If other missions are not bugged, why can't these few missions be easily repaired? Yes it would require a patch but we've had plenty and still no fixes have occurred. So if the bug is so fundamental and hard to repair like he said on the forums a long time ago, why aren't all missions bugged this way?
Anyway, they know about it, and admit it's a bug. That's straight from a dev through a random guy, so you can take it to heart
Krav
P.S. Droneboats like dominix CAN do these missions, or at least most of them. The usual fix is reaching a magic distance from the next spawn which differs by mission. What would be nice, is a list of all bugged missions, and workarounds, in 1 thread's OP that they could sticky. Honestly, it's the least they can do if they can't fix the problem yet.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Ferrum Pugnus
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Posted - 2006.11.21 08:36:00 -
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anyone tried this with the new kali missions ?
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Aarin Wrath
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Posted - 2006.11.21 18:18:00 -
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I am new to lvl4 missions and fly a Domi. (I can fly a Mega but I really dont like it). Anyhoo, I recently got Enemies Abound 1/5 for the first time and encountered the mentioned drone bug. Wow man did it scare the **** out of me. I launch my drones and the WHOLE LEVEL aggroed me. Somehow I made it out with 31% structure.
This needs to be fixed. I dident even target or much less shoot anything and wham-o they all came down on my drone then on me.
I even tried uber micromanagement of drones. I.e I would aggro a group with guns, then once the group fully aggroed me I would launch drones and *immediatly* tell the drones to engage. I figured if they were randomly shooting things maybe by micromanaging them it would solve the problem. Well that dident work. Got out with 50% structure that time.
I had to quit the mission. It was impossible. Got 0.5 standing loss.  Please fix? pretty please?
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Trotski II
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Posted - 2006.11.21 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Denga Vulture
Any news here after the Mission changes ? I just reactivated my account and dont want to lose my ships
Taken from another post which i copied into a Lv4 tips txt file i have:
angel extra stage 1. serp extra stage 3. worlds collide stage 1
thats the stages that auto-aggro the second entity (ship or drone) that enters and does anything. has been this way since months. so either prepare your tank for full aggro or dont release drones/bring gang mates that can tank the aggro they get.
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Only one i can confirm is Angel Extravaganza stage one.
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