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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2006.03.06 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists imo 5 as alliance was doomed from the beginning with the leadership it had. doesnt mean the corps on its own were tho.
Doomed? Were still here are we not? Sure you yourself have left, as have shinra/m.corp/supremacy, however the ideals and aims of the [5] are very much the same if you compare them to what was initially intended for the alliance upon its incarnation.
The single aim of 5 is to be the most devestating PVP alliance in the game. Everything we do as an alliance is still very much focused towards that aim. As such our ideals have reamined the same and as such we are far from doomed!
So Shinra & M.Corp didn't want to fight up north, they wanted to undertake a new direction in eve, they left [5].
From this point [5] still continued to focus on PVP'ing and working towards that goal. So Supremacy decide its cosey down in syndicate, they leave [5]. Yet [5] still focus towards its goal.
You may not have worked in [5], that doesn't mean to say that [5] does not work.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2006.03.06 23:41:00 -
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5 rocks, regardless of what my alliance mate may have to say. When the chips are down, we know who's got our back.
5 leadership is ok, but Stan never did give me "The Key" so I may have to challenge him to an ibis at 2km duel.
5 members are cool and nec <3 me, he just doesn't wanna admit it.  
gl to Supremacy dudes hf.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2006.03.07 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists imo 5 as alliance was doomed from the beginning with the leadership it had. doesnt mean the corps on its own were tho.
Doomed? Were still here are we not? Sure you yourself have left, as have shinra/m.corp/supremacy, however the ideals and aims of the [5] are very much the same if you compare them to what was initially intended for the alliance upon its incarnation.
The single aim of 5 is to be the most devestating PVP alliance in the game. Everything we do as an alliance is still very much focused towards that aim. As such our ideals have reamined the same and as such we are far from doomed!
So Shinra & M.Corp didn't want to fight up north, they wanted to undertake a new direction in eve, they left [5].
From this point [5] still continued to focus on PVP'ing and working towards that goal. So Supremacy decide its cosey down in syndicate, they leave [5]. Yet [5] still focus towards its goal.
You may not have worked in [5], that doesn't mean to say that [5] does not work.
Change [5] to ATUK in your post, and alliance -> corporation, and your post will be true. ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =) |

Abend
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Posted - 2006.03.07 04:16:00 -
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Edited by: Abend on 07/03/2006 04:25:45
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists imo 5 as alliance was doomed from the beginning with the leadership it had. doesnt mean the corps on its own were tho.
Doomed? Were still here are we not? Sure you yourself have left, as have shinra/m.corp/supremacy, however the ideals and aims of the [5] are very much the same if you compare them to what was initially intended for the alliance upon its incarnation.
The single aim of 5 is to be the most devestating PVP alliance in the game. Everything we do as an alliance is still very much focused towards that aim. As such our ideals have reamined the same and as such we are far from doomed!
So Shinra & M.Corp didn't want to fight up north, they wanted to undertake a new direction in eve, they left [5].
From this point [5] still continued to focus on PVP'ing and working towards that goal. So Supremacy decide its cosey down in syndicate, they leave [5]. Yet [5] still focus towards its goal.
You may not have worked in [5], that doesn't mean to say that [5] does not work.
Change [5] to ATUK in your post, and alliance -> corporation, and your post will be true.
So you are saying that one corp wreaks havoc on multiple alliances to the point of them being forced to NAP or be kicked from their own space? Wow. I'm impressed. Only other corp that was able to do that was m0o in the old days. Good job [5], emm, I mean ATUK. 
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MrSpock
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Posted - 2006.03.07 07:51:00 -
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The leadership of [5] has been and will continue to be one of the strongest in game.
When it comes down to it, the leaders of your individual corp are to blame for any alliance dissatisfaction you may have.
Living in the sunlight, loving in the moonlight |

Claudia Martini
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Posted - 2006.03.07 08:11:00 -
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It seems you are loosing more members than PA, so why ? Are your corps not satisfied anymore with the leadership ?
Maybe getting into the north is the dawn, everyone who has been here falled... So FIVE will too.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.03.07 08:16:00 -
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Exactly what corporations are left in .5.?
The alliance page isn't exactly reliable, which is why I ask. If I'm not mistaken, it is pretty much just ATUK... ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |

Evil Thug
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Posted - 2006.03.07 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Abend So you are saying that one corp wreaks havoc on multiple alliances to the point of them being forced to NAP or be kicked from their own space? Wow. I'm impressed. Only other corp that was able to do that was m0o in the old days. Good job [5], emm, I mean ATUK. 
exactly. Few good FC, and lots of hardcore pvp soldiers. ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =) |

pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.07 08:31:00 -
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I dont see any leadership problems in atuk/bos/black reign/delta at all. The have great organisation. I have no idea what kind of leadership supremacy had because they never seemed to fly with the rest of the alliance so I never got a chance to meet them. Either way I dont think it is accurate to say that the5 have bad leadership. I dont know what more you expect leaders to do for their alliance.
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spoooky
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:12:00 -
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Edited by: spoooky on 07/03/2006 09:13:18 reading between the lines. it would seem the 5 alliance has become a ditatorship with ATUK calling all the shot and the other member corps following like lost sheep.
i am not saying that is a bad thing for some, but it would seem one of the main reasons shinra,m corp and now suprm have left.
dictatorships do work, but people tire of being told to jump and having to ask how high.
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MrSpock
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: spoooky Edited by: spoooky on 07/03/2006 09:13:18 reading between the lines. it would seem the 5 alliance has become a ditatorship with ATUK calling all the shot and the other member corps following like lost sheep.
i am not saying that is a bad thing for some, but it would seem one of the main reasons shinra,m corp and now suprm have left.
dictatorships do work, but people tire of being told to jump and having to ask how high.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=271213&page=1#13
Originally by: spoooky There is another one cheaper by a mate of mine - look 4 ohmites
Reading between the lines; please don't tell me you are a suprm alt.
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KeyboardMasher
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: spoooky Edited by: spoooky on 07/03/2006 09:13:18 reading between the lines. it would seem the 5 alliance has become a ditatorship with ATUK calling all the shot and the other member corps following like lost sheep.
i am not saying that is a bad thing for some, but it would seem one of the main reasons shinra,m corp and now suprm have left.
dictatorships do work, but people tire of being told to jump and having to ask how high.
Lets examine the corps that left 5. Shinra and M Corp left to go 'bear it up in the south to build outposts and have safe space for all the noobs they recruit. Noobs as in playes not capable of sustaining themselves. Who are they really fighting? RA? Excuse me whilest I chuckle. Maybe some skirmishes with some other nobodies and what not but for all purposes it is ASCN lite.
Suprmacy baskly is a shell of the corporation. Their best pvp players long ago left for greener pastures and they were effectily removed as a pvp corp when acier quit eve. The lived in syndicate and basically mined a lot while they rebuilt the corpparation. There is nothign wrong with that. But, for some guys to come on here and act liek its some loss to the 5 they are deluding themselves.
As for the part about it being maining an atuk thingy. It seems from the outsidelookign in BOS has some really good things going too. The reason them and black rain arent as notable is because they arent louf mouths on the forums. Make no mistake, many pilots know ingame how fearsome they are.
As for the dimestore lines about 5 losing more pilots,. thats a sack of crap and irrelivant. The good players stay because they liek it. The arent and never will be a huge alliance in numbers. They are more of a surgical alliance than a big unwieldy alliance that is focused on numbers. If you wacked their vidos you'll see things like 90 players in alliance channel nd 70 in gang. I think that about says it all.
Oh and please finish PA off soon so I can kill them in nonni again.
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MrSpock
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: KeyboardMasher
Originally by: spoooky Edited by: spoooky on 07/03/2006 09:13:18 reading between the lines. it would seem the 5 alliance has become a ditatorship with ATUK calling all the shot and the other member corps following like lost sheep.
i am not saying that is a bad thing for some, but it would seem one of the main reasons shinra,m corp and now suprm have left.
dictatorships do work, but people tire of being told to jump and having to ask how high.
Lets examine the corps that left 5. Shinra and M Corp left to go 'bear it up in the south to build outposts and have safe space for all the noobs they recruit. Noobs as in playes not capable of sustaining themselves. Who are they really fighting? RA? Excuse me whilest I chuckle. Maybe some skirmishes with some other nobodies and what not but for all purposes it is ASCN lite.
Suprmacy baskly is a shell of the corporation. Their best pvp players long ago left for greener pastures and they were effectily removed as a pvp corp when acier quit eve. The lived in syndicate and basically mined a lot while they rebuilt the corpparation. There is nothign wrong with that. But, for some guys to come on here and act liek its some loss to the 5 they are deluding themselves.
As for the part about it being maining an atuk thingy. It seems from the outsidelookign in BOS has some really good things going too. The reason them and black rain arent as notable is because they arent louf mouths on the forums. Make no mistake, many pilots know ingame how fearsome they are.
As for the dimestore lines about 5 losing more pilots,. thats a sack of crap and irrelivant. The good players stay because they liek it. The arent and never will be a huge alliance in numbers. They are more of a surgical alliance than a big unwieldy alliance that is focused on numbers. If you wacked their vidos you'll see things like 90 players in alliance channel nd 70 in gang. I think that about says it all.
Oh and please finish PA off soon so I can kill them in nonni again.
lollerskates @ you. Is this how far you've come in eve? Hiding behind forum alts?
I can't say I'm too surprised. I know how much you love to flame.
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Anton Kamikaze
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Posted - 2006.03.07 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Anton Kamikaze on 07/03/2006 12:14:10
Originally by: spoooky dictatorships do work, but people tire of being told to jump and having to ask how high.
Guess ATUK pods you, if you are in a gang with them and the gang leader says: 'Jump !' at a gate and you ask: 'How high ?'  Sorry, guess lack of sleep leads to bad humor.  
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Bullvar
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Posted - 2006.03.07 13:33:00 -
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ok enough is enough guys, We have left, end of story. To those well wishers, thanx. To the gripers, fair enough and good luck anyway. Ex-SUPRM plz refrain from flaming and making comments regarding to us as you arent members anymore. Your gripe should be taken up with the corps or characters in game not on here Though i understand why a lot of ppl are flaming,and using alts, this isnt the time for it. We might be making a post soon, if so,good, if not tough! As i said in my previous comment, Change might do all of us some good, lets wait and see.
Heidbanger / Bullvar today is a good day to die!!!
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2006.03.07 13:51:00 -
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Good luck Heid and suprm
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2006.03.07 14:13:00 -
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To supremacy all the luck in future ventures.
To smackers --> .
Atuk was and is PvP corp with lots of members. Number of members along the activity in EVE and on forums made them famous (in good or bad way-dont matter-we are famous).
Rest of corps in 5 dont have numbers as Atuk have...but it certinaly dont make them less worth or less deadly.
How long The 5 alliance is active I dont even know cause im a noob in many aspects of the game yet. But to beliave that everything will last forever in a way as it was at beggining is foolish thought. Corps that left The 5 had some different goals created over time. They followed their goals. Did Atuk leadership did something regarding that? NOT. So much about dictatorship of Atuk. Once again, bad propaganda is a bad propaganda to often made by jelous ppl in order to create problems among the 5. Well, guess what...not many kids flying with us , so you wont be able to confuse us . (One of the reasons why we are great forum worriors  ).
So, please....get back to subject and say what you have to say about Supremacy...many good guys there. Let their guns continue to spark as they did so far. All the luck on your paths
Try to be humble next time. Seem to me that first dread taken down in EVE by NBSI made their nose a bit to high in the air. Im glad it got kicked |

Jhodas
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Posted - 2006.03.07 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Hatepeace Lovewar GL guys, even with Jhodas your a great bunch!

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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.03.07 16:56:00 -
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This is Hobblin I/Stormfront (was atleast), and I will not flame, merely point out facts. Everything SUPRM achieved was largely thanks to my efforts. I led ops, trained new members, kept Heid at bay by asking him to talk dirty to me in Scottish (yeah its not a language) in a different channel so he wouldnt bother the others.
Quite frankly, I'm ****ed at the lack of recognition I got. I hid Aggros lossmails from others, I bough some 10 harpies for Ohmite. I listened to Rexthor *****/moan and get smacked by everyone else, only to defend his honor. I bought Wizard zealots so he could try out his setups, I made bm copies (it wasnt Rex, it was me) for everyone 24/7....
And after all that, my name was mentioned a total of 0 times in this useless thread that has gone on 4 pages.... Phooey. SCREW YOU ALL... 'cept for Jhodas.

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aggro
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Posted - 2006.03.07 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Wizie This is Hobblin I/Stormfront (was atleast), and I will not flame, merely point out facts. Everything SUPRM achieved was largely thanks to my efforts. I led ops, trained new members, kept Heid at bay by asking him to talk dirty to me in Scottish (yeah its not a language) in a different channel so he wouldnt bother the others.
Quite frankly, I'm ****ed at the lack of recognition I got. I hid Aggros lossmails from others, I bough some 10 harpies for Ohmite. I listened to Rexthor *****/moan and get smacked by everyone else, only to defend his honor. I bought Wizard zealots so he could try out his setups, I made bm copies (it wasnt Rex, it was me) for everyone 24/7....
And after all that, my name was mentioned a total of 0 times in this useless thread that has gone on 4 pages.... Phooey. SCREW YOU ALL... 'cept for Jhodas.

sorry who are you.
only joking hobblin.
thks for helping to hid my losses, but you seem to forget i returned the farvour 3 fold hiding yours   
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Ohmite
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Posted - 2006.03.07 17:07:00 -
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I see someone thinks Spooky is an alt of mine, I can state that spooky is certainly no alt of mine, yes I know the charactor but that is it, her views are hers alone and not mine.
An official post should be coming up tonite. It will be the official supremacy post and will state reasons and thank who we need to and state our intentions.
Therefore I politely ask for people to stop posting and wait for the official thread you can comment on official reasons instead of just speculation on alts opinions
Thankyou
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Namelesz
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Posted - 2006.03.07 17:11:00 -
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dont forget to thank me. Remember it was Kayo that made the Heid recording, but that was my voice. LOL!  still lub ya bastards.
"notify: Only ships can be assembled, this is a Elite Frigate." |

Bullvar
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Posted - 2006.03.07 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Wizie kept Heid at bay by asking him to talk dirty to me in Scottish (yeah its not a language) in a different channel so he wouldnt bother the others.

I know you miss my Celtic Tongue lol good to see your doing well storm/hobb.. whoever you are today and Chow msn me some time you dirty rat
Heid / Bullvar today is a good day to die!!!
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2006.03.07 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Bullvar Ex-SUPRM plz refrain from flaming and making comments regarding to us as you arent members anymore.
Translation: Gonna nae dae that? 
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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M'buku
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Posted - 2006.03.07 19:19:00 -
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Ladies and Gentlemen, may I direct your attention to the official statement for further discussion on the topic.
Regards Mb
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2006.03.07 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Trooper B99
Originally by: Bullvar Ex-SUPRM plz refrain from flaming and making comments regarding to us as you arent members anymore.
Translation: Gonna nae dae that? 
Best post ever!
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Lomithrandra

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Posted - 2006.03.07 19:58:00 -
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Press release regarding this here -> http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=305196
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