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Paul Panala Circulus Exousias 101	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:21:00 - [1] - Quote Now that warp speed actually means something, I suggest CCP consider giving the 4 freighters different warp speeds, or give some of them bonuses effecting warp speed. The choice of a freighter has always been a compromise between size and speed with the Charon being the biggest and the Fenrir being the fastest. However, sub-light speed for a freighter means nothing (unless you auto-pilot, which we do not want to encourage). Why not give ships like the Fenrir and Providence a slightly higher warp speed? I am not talking about a huge buff, maybe just 10% faster (total, not per level).
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris Republic Military Tax Avoiders 450	Posted - 2013.12.10 18:48:00 - [2] - Quote LG Ascendancy alpha-epsilon + WS-615 will give freighter battleship-like warp speed. Whats more do you need? Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.
Batelle Komm susser Tod 579	Posted - 2013.12.10 18:55:00 - [3] - Quote Extra HP is sometimes helpful Extra sublight speed is sometimes helpful Extra cargo space is sometimes helpful Extra agility is sometimes helpful Extra warp speed would be helpful 100% of the time. Warp speed should stay consistent across freighters just like its consistent for every other ship class. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.
Zvaarian the Red Evil Leprechaun Brigade 205	Posted - 2013.12.10 18:55:00 - [4] - Quote Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote: LG Ascendancy alpha-epsilon + WS-615 will give freighter battleship-like warp speed. Whats more do you need? You seem to have totally missed his point. He's asking for better warp-speed for under-used freighters that have inferior cargo capacity.
Swiftstrike1 Interfector INC. Fade 2 Black 381	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:12:00 - [5] - Quote I'd be in favour of all ship classes having some variation in warp speeds. Why shouldn't some cruisers be faster than others? Fleet Bookmarks New Gravimetric Sites Med Clones 2.0
Paul Panala Circulus Exousias 101	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:13:00 - [6] - Quote Swiftstrike1 wrote: I'd be in favour of all ship classes having some variation in warp speeds. Why shouldn't some cruisers be faster than others? Some are, many T2 ships are 10% faster than their T1 equivalent.
Batelle Komm susser Tod 579	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:14:00 - [7] - Quote Paul Panala wrote: Swiftstrike1 wrote: I'd be in favour of all ship classes having some variation in warp speeds. Why shouldn't some cruisers be faster than others? Some are, many T2 ships are 10% faster than their T1 equivalent. This is not a variation among ships within the same class. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.
Paul Panala Circulus Exousias 101	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:36:00 - [8] - Quote Batelle wrote: Extra HP is sometimes helpful Extra sublight speed is sometimes helpful Extra cargo space is sometimes helpful Extra agility is sometimes helpful Extra warp speed would be helpful 100% of the time. Warp speed should stay consistent across freighters just like its consistent for every other ship class. The point is taken, but lets look at it this way. Charon: Most Cargo Obelisk: Most HP Fenrir: Fastest sub-light Providence: Most balanced (not really known for anything) The Fenrir's ability is the most useless out of all of them. If it is meant to be faster than the others, then why not make if faster in a way that actually matters?
Batelle Komm susser Tod 579	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:45:00 - [9] - Quote Just because you don't afk doesn't mean no one does. I'm sure the agility is also more helpful when you're trying to install ihub upgrades as well. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.
Paul Panala Circulus Exousias 101	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:45:00 - [10] - Quote Batelle wrote: Paul Panala wrote: Swiftstrike1 wrote: I'd be in favour of all ship classes having some variation in warp speeds. Why shouldn't some cruisers be faster than others? Some are, many T2 ships are 10% faster than their T1 equivalent. This is not a variation among ships within the same class. That is kind of splitting hairs my friend. Especially considering there are only 2 classes of freighters, and they have very different uses. A cruiser and a HAC are more alike than a freighter and a jump freighter. It stands to reason that with fewer classes to choose from, you would find more verity within the class. We already have president. Most ships within a class have similar cargo capacities. Not freighters.
Batelle Komm susser Tod 579	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:52:00 - [11] - Quote Paul Panala wrote: That is kind of splitting hairs my friend. Especially considering there are only 2 classes of freighters, and they have very different uses. A cruiser and a HAC are more alike than a freighter and a jump freighter. It stands to reason that with fewer classes to choose from, you would find more verity within the class. We already have president. Most ships within a class have similar cargo capacities. Not freighters. I don't think I am splitting hairs, neither am I comparing JFs to Freighters. To my knowledge there isn't a single ship class in the game where different racial versions get different warp speeds. And I don't know what you mean about "similar cargo capacities." cargo variation among freighters is less than 10%. In other ship classes (HACs for example) they go as low as 240m up to 650m3. Cargo space has always been a stat that varies. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.
Paul Panala Circulus Exousias 101	Posted - 2013.12.10 20:39:00 - [12] - Quote Batelle wrote: warp speed has never been a stat that varies race to race. Warp Speed has never been a meaningful stat at all until Rubicon. I see no harm in the change, other than Charon owners getting upset that their ship is no longer the obvious high-sec best choice. The fact that it isn't done with other ships doesn't mean it can't be done here.
Rivr Luzade Coreli Corporation Ineluctable. 138	Posted - 2013.12.10 20:44:00 - [13] - Quote Paul Panala wrote: [quote=Batelle] Providence: Most balanced (not really known for anything) Outrageous! It's known for being the best looking freighter ingame, if not the best looking ship! And, as it is the most balanced, it delivers best performance as a freighter. The sub-light speed is very good for its large cargo size, and so is its agility. It is of course skill dependent, but I really like it when my Provi let's all the other freighters eat dust when I am on autopilot.
Paul Panala Circulus Exousias 101	Posted - 2013.12.10 20:58:00 - [14] - Quote Rivr Luzade wrote: Paul Panala wrote: [quote=Batelle] Providence: Most balanced (not really known for anything) Outrageous! It's known for being the best looking freighter ingame, if not the best looking ship! And, as it is the most balanced, it delivers best performance as a freighter. The sub-light speed is very good for its large cargo size, and so is its agility. It is of course skill dependent, but I really like it when my Provi let's all the other freighters eat dust when I am on autopilot. Thank you sir, I corrected my post based on your feedback :-) Yes, when I said most balanced, I meant that in a good way, I was not trying to imply it was a worthless ship.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris Republic Military Tax Avoiders 450	Posted - 2013.12.11 00:00:00 - [15] - Quote Paul Panala wrote: The Fenrir's ability is the most useless out of all of them. If it is meant to be faster than the others, then why not make if faster in a way that actually matters? Fenrir has fastest align time of them all. That makes big difference in time spent during 20-30 jumps travels. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.
Hesod Adee Perkone Caldari State 204	Posted - 2013.12.11 00:48:00 - [16] - Quote How about one freighter with a faster align/sublight speed, another with faster warp ? If the route involves lots of short warps, the faster align/sublight gets to the destination quicker. But if the route involves enough longer warps, the faster warp speed freighter gets there faster. CCP would have data on the 4 most popular hauling routes. I'd suggest that they rebalance the freighters (or alter the systems in each route) so that each freighter is the best choice for one of those routes.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris Republic Military Tax Avoiders 450	Posted - 2013.12.11 01:01:00 - [17] - Quote Hesod Adee wrote: How about one freighter with a faster align/sublight speed, another with faster warp ? already exists in form of Nomad vs Ascedancy. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.
Paul Panala Circulus Exousias 104	Posted - 2013.12.21 04:14:00 - [18] - Quote Batelle wrote: Extra HP is sometimes helpful Extra sublight speed is sometimes helpful Extra cargo space is sometimes helpful Extra agility is sometimes helpful Extra warp speed would be helpful 100% of the time. Warp speed should stay consistent across freighters just like its consistent for every other ship class. I can't believe I overlooked this ship class that already breaks your rule. The Bustard has a warp speed of 3.3 The Crane is has a warp speed or 6.0 Both are classified as Transport ships. Now I am sure you will be quick to say "but they are meant for totally different roles." Yes, but I would argue that the 4 freighters are meant to fit slightly different roles as well.
Arthur Aihaken The.VOID 994	Posted - 2013.12.21 04:44:00 - [19] - Quote Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote: LG Ascendancy alpha-epsilon + WS-615 will give freighter battleship-like warp speed. Whats more do you need? Battleship speeds... ain't like they used to be. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Omega Flames Forever Winter 81	Posted - 2013.12.24 06:22:00 - [20] - Quote Paul Panala wrote: Batelle wrote: Extra HP is sometimes helpful Extra sublight speed is sometimes helpful Extra cargo space is sometimes helpful Extra agility is sometimes helpful Extra warp speed would be helpful 100% of the time. Warp speed should stay consistent across freighters just like its consistent for every other ship class. I can't believe I overlooked this ship class that already breaks your rule. The Bustard has a warp speed of 3.3 The Crane is has a warp speed or 6.0 Both are classified as Transport ships. Now I am sure you will be quick to say "but they are meant for totally different roles." Yes, but I would argue that the 4 freighters are meant to fit slightly different roles as well. bustard is a deep space transport and crane is a blockade runner. trying to say they are similar is like trying to say the buzzard and manticore are similar, it just doesn't work and shows how ignorant you are. <Munnkeh> i'm gonna use that excuse if i ever kill someone. "look, if you keep meeting ppl, it's bound to happen eventually" http://i.imgur.com/76pQ9.jpg
Barrogh Habalu Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 637	Posted - 2013.12.24 07:28:00 - [21] - Quote Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote: already exists in form of Nomad vs Ascedancy. Are not mutually exclusive, different classes of items.
To mare Advanced Technology 296	Posted - 2013.12.24 10:46:00 - [22] - Quote honestly i would make freighters much more different between each others fenrir reduce the cargo bay to 1/3 (300k m) but give it BS agility charon leave as it is now providence 1/2 the cargo hold (500k) but double the hp obelisk i dont know maybe reduce cargo to 2/3 (700k)and give it a warp speed/warp strenght bonus

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