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Faylee Freir
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.11 04:21:00 -
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I am currently trying to unlock L4s for factional warfare, and I'm able to do level 3s. So far I've been able to do L1-2s fine in a thrasher. What would you guys recommend for blasting through my L3s while I grind the rest out for L4s?
I am concerned that normal missioning ships like a hurricane or drake would be too slow to travel back and forth in lowsec. Does anyone have any experience with battleship missioning in fw areas? |

Dr Formaldehyde
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:28:00 -
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Hurricane |

Iyokus Patrouette
End-of-Line
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:28:00 -
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Strat cruisers can level 4 mission easily enough. . while taking longer then a battleship, you have all the mobility of a cruiser making the travel potentially safer and potentially a cheaper ship unless you love pimping out mission boats.
I'd probably pick a tengu over the other strat cruisers for the job as well.
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Dr Formaldehyde
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:32:00 -
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Hurricane |

Faylee Freir
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.11 05:45:00 -
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Thanks for the input! |

Gh0stBust3rs
Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.12.11 06:56:00 -
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Level 4s for faction warfare are best done with a bomber. They are not like standard level 4s...
Or if you have friends. 3-4 tornados to warp in alpha target and leave. |

UkaIS
Lords of Entropy V.e.G.A.
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Posted - 2013.12.11 07:58:00 -
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This is great. Six posts, two are from the OP, two are answers that might be good but have no explanation and two people didnt seem to read the first post :-D
Back to topic: I like the Ishtar for L3s. Wether you shield or armor tank it doesn't matter much. Warp in, put out sentries and go home a few minutes later. Its small and agile as a cruiser should be and not as expensive as a T3. A Hurricane would be a nice alternative for Lowsec. I have also done L3s in a Fleet Stabber but some missions can be rather hard on your tank. |

Gh0stBust3rs
Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.12.11 08:22:00 -
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UkaIS wrote:This is great. Six posts, two are from the OP, two are answers that might be good but have no explanation and two people didnt seem to read the first post :-D
Back to topic: I like the Ishtar for L3s. Wether you shield or armor tank it doesn't matter much. Warp in, put out sentries and go home a few minutes later. Its small and agile as a cruiser should be and not as expensive as a T3. A Hurricane would be a nice alternative for Lowsec. I have also done L3s in a Fleet Stabber but some missions can be rather hard on your tank.
Maybe you need to read better. Faction Warfare missions are all basically able to be run in frigates. Faction Warfare missions are not like the standard high low or null level 4s.
They are usually a warp in kill 1 ship and mission complete. Your recommending more expensive ships then what he needs to risk to accomplish his task.
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Dextrome Thorphan
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.11 10:10:00 -
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nvm |

Faylee Freir
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:10:00 -
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Could I do L3s in a bomber? If not, what about an assault frig? |

Auduin Samson
Do not disturb Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:35:00 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:Could I do L3s in a bomber? If not, what about an assault frig?
Assault frig, yes, if you're good. Bomber, possibly, but far from ideal.
The bomber does damage with either bombs or torpedoes. Bombs are not useable in hisec (which is where I assume you're missioning) and torpedoes have trouble applying damage to anything much smaller than a battlecruiser. While it *could* be done, it *shouldn't* be done.
The assault frig is a better choice (I've run L3s in my Jaguar for fun) but still not quite ideal. A battlecruiser could put out more DPS and clear the mission quicker if fit properly. If you want to have fun, by all means, give it a shot with an AF. If you want to grind missions quickly, stick with something gankier.
Battlecruisers, HACs, Strat cruisers, and command ships will all tear through L3s with the right skills. |

Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Sicarius Draconis
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Posted - 2013.12.11 16:37:00 -
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For Minmatar Faction Warfare missions a bomber is ideal. Since you are going up against Amarr, I would use either Purifier or Nemesis. The Purifier gets a bonus to EM damage, and the Nemesis gets bonus to Thermal; and Amarr ships are weak against EM and Thermal. Tank for EM/Therm, and put a speed tank on the bomber. Stay at range and kill the target objective. You do not have to kill everything. I can't recall, but I do believe that Amarr use Nuets and NOS. Tracking disruption won't be a problem since you are using missiles.
Remember, lasers ships usually have bad tracking. |

Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.11 18:30:00 -
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Auduin Samson wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:Could I do L3s in a bomber? If not, what about an assault frig? Assault frig, yes, if you're good. Bomber, possibly, but far from ideal. The bomber does damage with either bombs or torpedoes. Bombs are not useable in hisec (which is where I assume you're missioning) and torpedoes have trouble applying damage to anything much smaller than a battlecruiser. While it *could* be done, it *shouldn't* be done. The assault frig is a better choice (I've run L3s in my Jaguar for fun) but still not quite ideal. A battlecruiser could put out more DPS and clear the mission quicker if fit properly. If you want to have fun, by all means, give it a shot with an AF. If you want to grind missions quickly, stick with something gankier. Battlecruisers, HACs, Strat cruisers, and command ships will all tear through L3s with the right skills.
maybe u want to reread the op he wants to do fw missions which are always in low. i have never done them tbh. but now i would think about astero or cheaper tristan for the lower end missions and sb for the l4 not sure if it is workable so. |

Faylee Freir
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:35:00 -
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Just a side-question... I've never tried fitting anything on my own. I usually just reference other peoples fits and copy. What are the general rules or guidelines with fitting a ship for missioning? Is there a specific number I need to obtain for my tank / dps? |

Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.12 17:19:00 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:Just a side-question... I've never tried fitting anything on my own. I usually just reference other peoples fits and copy. What are the general rules or guidelines with fitting a ship for missioning? Is there a specific number I need to obtain for my tank / dps?
basically no, im not talking about lowsec missions because i dont have experience there but in highsec i only tank mission specific resist and active (only the drake was passive). As i didnt know how hard mission where i started overtanked and low dps. Now if i should run missions im barely tanked just enough to get through and high dps. You have to figure out how you want to roll yourself but pls dont dual or hull tank  |

Johnathan Coffey
Triforce Niggas
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Posted - 2013.12.12 17:51:00 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:Just a side-question... I've never tried fitting anything on my own. I usually just reference other peoples fits and copy. What are the general rules or guidelines with fitting a ship for missioning? Is there a specific number I need to obtain for my tank / dps? If you mean lvl4 missions in highsec: Start with a 500/500/50/5 ship (500 tank against the mission specific faction, 500 DPS out to 50km, 5min capacitor life at least). For every 100 extra DPS, you can drop 50 tank. Higher range and longer capacitor life will also increase your quality of life. First rule of EVE UI: right click EVERYTHING. |

ashley Eoner
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Posted - 2013.12.13 05:14:00 -
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Johnathan Coffey wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:Just a side-question... I've never tried fitting anything on my own. I usually just reference other peoples fits and copy. What are the general rules or guidelines with fitting a ship for missioning? Is there a specific number I need to obtain for my tank / dps? If you mean lvl4 missions in highsec: Start with a 500/500/50/5 ship (500 tank against the mission specific faction, 500 DPS out to 50km, 5min capacitor life at least). For every 100 extra DPS, you can drop 50 tank. Higher range and longer capacitor life will also increase your quality of life. That's a pretty solid set of numbers. |
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