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Jerol Troglan
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:32:00 -
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I've been playing for 2 months now and have gotten a number of my RL friends to play as well. We're fairly antisocial, so we formed our own corporation (not the brightest move I know). We've found definitive information on Manufacturing and Research to be almost nonexistent. I suspect now it is a closely guarded secret...
In any event, we have amassed a small fortune and are looking to purchase a BPO. Fine. I go to the Escrow market and start to look at them. 90% of the listings are fraudulent. By that, I mean, they are really BPCs when you read the fine print. Or worse yet, they aren't even a blueprint at all -- simply a module.
I have also noticed that under the "BP Runs" column of the item description (which, by the way, is evilly located off the right side of the screen and not visible unless you increase the size of the window), many of these alleged "BPOs" have a "-" instead of saying "unlimited". There is no rhyme or reason to this, as far as I can tell. Some BPOs say "unlimited" and some have a dash. They both say "Yes" under the Original? column, though, so I'm assuming they are BPOs.
Also, when you "Show Info" on a BPO that is for sale, it does not say it is an original ANYWHERE. There is no "Licensed Number of Production Runs Remaining" line, as one popular guide claims there is.
My question is this: How does one obtain BPOs outside of the escrow market? And how can you truly be sure that what you are buying is a BPO? There really should be a way to tell that is foolproof and not shrouded in secrecy. CCP should make it much clearer on the Show Info page of any given blueprint. Here's a wacky idea: how about labelling them as "Blueprint Original" if they are BPOs???
Jerol Troglan, SWORN Corporation
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junglywungly
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:07:00 -
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You can buy BPOs off the market, you will need to research them though to make them worth producing items with.
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Lardarz B'stard
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:05:00 -
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Ask in the trade channel known as 'blueprints'
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:39:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/03/2006 22:39:33
Originally by: Jerol Troglan
Also, when you "Show Info" on a BPO that is for sale, it does not say it is an original ANYWHERE. There is no "Licensed Number of Production Runs Remaining" line, as one popular guide claims there is.
Yes it does. Its quite obvious too.
All BPOs off market are from NPCs and are originals.
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Jerol Troglan
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/03/2006 22:39:33
Originally by: Jerol Troglan
Also, when you "Show Info" on a BPO that is for sale, it does not say it is an original ANYWHERE. There is no "Licensed Number of Production Runs Remaining" line, as one popular guide claims there is.
Yes it does. Its quite obvious too.
All BPOs off market are from NPCs and are originals.
Wow, DS...
If you're going to be smug, at least be right. Bring up your Escrow and hit "Show All". Find a BPO for sale on escrow and hit "Show Info" (not "Inspect Merchandise"). Now find where it says its an original in the Show Info window. You can't...
It does say it when you "Inspect Merchandise", but what confused me is that some BPOs have a dash (-) instead of the word "unlimited" under the BP runs column. Why is that and how do I know for sure that its an original?
I'm assuming you are saying that the blueprints for sale in the Market window are all from NPCs and are all originals -- which is helpful. But again, try to find that information in the Show Info window. You can't. There is no indication in the Show Info window that these are BPOs.
Jerol
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.03.06 00:52:00 -
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Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 06/03/2006 00:53:53 Whats even more funny is the fact that BPOs can have -1 runs. Which means infinite somehow.
Its a major problem to tell BPOs from BPCs, not only in escrow. Identical icons, and different show info results depending on where you do the "show info" from. If you inspect an escrow, then do show info, the info window will show zero ME / PE, even when the BPO has been researched. The research will not be factored into the stats, so you have to use other tools to find the real values of the BPO. You have to rely on the inspect window for information about ME / PE / runs. You have to know about resizing the window though.
Its really annoying, especially if someone missed a zero ... You wont see it in the confirmation dialog box if i remember right, so you actually have to inspect it and have less then 10s to find out wether its a scam or a real BPO, and claim it ;)
Hint: People have claimed raven BPOs for 600k - labeled BPC, someone even got a Malediction BPO for 6m or so. Should tell you that something is wrong...
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Benglada
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Posted - 2006.03.06 02:11:00 -
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Click inspect merchandise instead of show info you goon. ---------------------------
Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
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Zomzom
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Posted - 2006.03.06 13:00:00 -
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I believe that when you are clicking show info for an item you are just requesting the item database details for that item type. Therefore it would not show you the me/pe for the individual blueprint for sale but the generic info for all bps of that type.
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Erfnam
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Posted - 2006.03.06 22:02:00 -
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When you show info on a stackable bpo (fresh of npc market), then it will not show a number of production runs. -- TCSyn , founding member of Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.06 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Argenton Sayvers Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 06/03/2006 00:53:53 Whats even more funny is the fact that BPOs can have -1 runs. Which means infinite somehow.
-1 = original (how its stored in the database) unlimited = original - = packaged original
Anything other than the above is a copy.
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Naal Morno
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Posted - 2006.03.08 20:26:00 -
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Escrow 'Inspect Merchandise' always says 'Original YES' for original BPs. That's what it is for. Anything else, including '-', 'no' is not a bpo, might be a BPC (if me/pe is listed) or item itself.
You need to be very careful as escrow scammers thrive on simple mistakes people can make on escrow.
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GC13
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Posted - 2006.03.09 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jerol Troglan Also, when you "Show Info" on a BPO that is for sale, it does not say it is an original ANYWHERE. There is no "Licensed Number of Production Runs Remaining" line, as one popular guide claims there is.
It does say so, but it doesn't show on Escrow for some reason... But when you do the "Inspect Merchandise" option, it has a column for whether it's an original or not (which will obviously say No if it's a copy). It ALSO has a column for how many production runs (BPRuns) are left (which should be "Unlimited" if it's a BPO).
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