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Nihlat
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:16:00 -
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im was looking for a new gallente cruiser back cant make up my mind which of the above..
the setup i was going 2 run on them was
4x150mm rails 1xNOS
1x 10MW AB 2xcap reccharge(wep/jammer when pvp)
1x1600mm plate 1xMed repair 2/3x hardner
5xMed drones
the Vexor has the drone bonus and the Thorax has the extra low slot for an extra hardner...... what do you think is best for pvp and mission running
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LaCoHa
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:31:00 -
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Both are great ships.
Vexor = bad ass solo PVP ship.
Thorax = bad ass solo PVP ship.
i use same basic setup for each, Heavy tanks, Nos, MWD, small blasters, and ofcourse Drones. The rax is a bit better as it can take on even larger ships or a numerically superior force. but the vexor is a great too, and less ex*****ve to buy and fit.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:40:00 -
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The vexor itself isn't overpowered, it just deals damage through drones well and people tend to fit it with nos more. Nos are damn useful for breaking an opponent's tank. What's stopping people fitting nos on a thorax is that they think they need every one of their highs for guns to deal damage. The idea is that if you fit some nos, you break tehir tank and have to deal less damage.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Nyphur
The vexor itself isn't overpowered, it just deals damage through drones well and people tend to fit it with nos more. Nos are damn useful for breaking an opponent's tank. What's stopping people fitting nos on a thorax is that they think they need every one of their highs for guns to deal damage. The idea is that if you fit some nos, you break tehir tank and have to deal less damage.
Uhh. People just don't tend to fit nos more on drone ships. It's bloody logical to do that since your damage is not coming from any of your fitting slots. Nos kills your targets cap while sustaining your tank, it's win win.
Fitting nos on a Thorax would compromise your primary offense. That is not the case with drone ships.
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Nihlat
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:11:00 -
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really i just want to know what you think is best an extra low slot or the 10% drone damage/hp pr lvl...
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LaCoHa
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:12:00 -
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I can tell you that putting one Nos on a rax to help sustain the tank can make a big difference. I find that it is best suited to outlast the opponet.
I am not man enought to fit a 5 x neutron blaster gank setup... I like to play it VERY safe. That said, you can no doubt set up a rax to throw out some serious damage.
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Linavin
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nihlat
really i just want to know what you think is best an extra low slot or the 10% drone damage/hp pr lvl...
For the setup you want to fit on the Rax you'd most definatley want to use the Vexor. Does everyone forget that the Rax is actually a good blaster ship now? Drones without the bonus and a 1600mm just don't cut it on the Rax. (thank god) If your going to fit a rax use medium guns at the very least.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius
Uhh. People just don't tend to fit nos more on drone ships. It's bloody logical to do that since your damage is not coming from any of your fitting slots. Nos kills your targets cap while sustaining your tank, it's win win.
Fitting nos on a Thorax would compromise your primary offense. That is not the case with drone ships.
The thing is, the vexor can easilly fit a few turrets and add extra damage. There's a reason people don't fit it like that - it's not a Thorax. It makes better use of nos because it does adequate damage without turrets but there's no reason a thorax has to run 5 guns. It might be more effective to drop 2 of those for nos. A thorax will be dealing a little less damage with nos fitted, sure, but if you're running small guns on that you're hardly maximising your damage.
It does work better on drone ships but it does still work on a thorax and at least all your damage isn't coming from drones, which can be popped. I wonder if anyone has a setup that can pop drones effectively.
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Amp Nexus
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Posted - 2006.03.05 23:31:00 -
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Okay, I am a noob and I am getting my first Thorax. Advice? Point me to a thread that has great pointers? Thanks!
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.03.05 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nihlat
im was looking for a new gallente cruiser back cant make up my mind which of the above..
the setup i was going 2 run on them was
4x150mm rails 1xNOS
1x 10MW AB 2xcap reccharge(wep/jammer when pvp)
1x1600mm plate 1xMed repair 2/3x hardner
5xMed drones
the Vexor has the drone bonus and the Thorax has the extra low slot for an extra hardner...... what do you think is best for pvp and mission running
That doesnt fit afaik, unless the nos is a small nos.
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Cordt
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Posted - 2006.03.05 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Nihlat
really i just want to know what you think is best an extra low slot or the 10% drone damage/hp pr lvl...
To be honest, they each have their specialties. The Vexor, with the right setup (sorry, can't share it here) is possibly the most incredibly deadly anti-frigate ship without going tech 2 for the Ishtar. It will destroy any frig, t2 or non as long as you're a good pilot using a good setup.
The Thorax, on the other hand, is an incredible anti-cruiser ship. It's optimized to be very deadly against other ships in its weight class, if you use it correctly, with the right setups (no, not the plateax). It's all in what you're looking to do.
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Arian Snow
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Posted - 2006.03.06 00:03:00 -
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Edited by: Arian Snow on 06/03/2006 00:04:50
Hey I am quite the noob also. For a long time I looked to the Thorax to fill my needs as a lvl2 mission ship, until I realized that a Thorax with light rails is very much inferior to a Vexor. The Damageoutput on the vexor is greater bacause of the droneskills. And I did not need a 6000hp ship.
I have built this:
High: 2* Med NOS and 3*Light rails (AM charges)
Med: web, AB and a Cap recharger.
Low: 2*Energized hardeners, Med repair and a 800MM plate.
This setup can run its repair unit indefinately and kill pretty quickly also when I get to drone lvl5 (I only have drone lvl4 now) and get drone interfacing then this ship will truly rock ( methinks )
Also you dont have to be afraid and kite around so much which makes picking up loot faster.
A Thorax is build for blasters, in the rail/carefull department I believe Vexor is much better. It's pretty logical when you look at the bonuses of the ships!
On a sidenote this baby cost me about 12M isk. pretty much for a Noob like me. But it is well worth it! (you can save alot by getting stock items instead of named ones!)
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Montero
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Posted - 2006.03.06 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Zysco
Originally by: Nihlat
im was looking for a new gallente cruiser back cant make up my mind which of the above..
the setup i was going 2 run on them was
4x150mm rails 1xNOS
1x 10MW AB 2xcap reccharge(wep/jammer when pvp)
1x1600mm plate 1xMed repair 2/3x hardner
5xMed drones
the Vexor has the drone bonus and the Thorax has the extra low slot for an extra hardner...... what do you think is best for pvp and mission running
That doesnt fit afaik, unless the nos is a small nos.
2xsmall reps ftw.
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.03.06 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Montero
Originally by: Zysco
Originally by: Nihlat
im was looking for a new gallente cruiser back cant make up my mind which of the above..
the setup i was going 2 run on them was
4x150mm rails 1xNOS
1x 10MW AB 2xcap reccharge(wep/jammer when pvp)
1x1600mm plate 1xMed repair 2/3x hardner
5xMed drones
the Vexor has the drone bonus and the Thorax has the extra low slot for an extra hardner...... what do you think is best for pvp and mission running
That doesnt fit afaik, unless the nos is a small nos.
2xsmall reps ftw.
shhh!
callon > I don't like traveling much, i think its cause my father used to beat me with a globe.
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LaCoHa
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Posted - 2006.03.06 01:15:00 -
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I will say that while the Blaster-Rax is great, the Plate-rax will allways kill it 1 vs 1.
like most ship setup threads, it just depends what you want it to do. - all rax setups are killers though 
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Nihlat
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Posted - 2006.03.06 06:00:00 -
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okay so im flying the Vexor now.. but cant deside what hardner to use any one know what damage type serpentis is?
and thx for the replys all...
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Adoran Wa'alle
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Posted - 2006.03.06 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nihlat
okay so im flying the Vexor now.. but cant deside what hardner to use any one know what damage type serpentis is?
and thx for the replys all...
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leroy jinkens
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Posted - 2006.03.06 11:22:00 -
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I've come across a few vexor's in my time, if im in my rax i just hit it up brute force style , 3-4 t2 blasters dmg mod 2 nosf , shield extedner - gg : ) thats against t2 drones too
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