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Kirin	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:30:00 - [1] Because I know what it takes to make such an acqisition and what it means to take such a loss, if you need to move such items tell your pilots to use frigs or coverts or just call it, contact us, work out an arrangement to end the hostilities and get your stuff out. 1 day, two indies later you've lost the following: Destroyed items: 100MN Afterburner I Blueprint Nanomechanical Microprocessor Blueprint Crokite Mining Crystal I Blueprint Dark Ochre Mining Crystal I Blueprint Jaspet Mining Crystal I Blueprint Plagioclase Mining Crystal I Blueprint Pyroxeres Mining Crystal I Blueprint Scordite Mining Crystal I Blueprint Spodumain Mining Crystal I Blueprint Veldspar Mining Crystal I Blueprint Vigil Blueprint Ice Harvester Upgrade I Blueprint Mining Laser Upgrade I Blueprint 250mm Railgun II Blueprint Small Tractor Beam I Blueprint, Qty: 1 Uranium Charge S Blueprint Iteron Mark V Blueprint Heat Dissipation Amplifier I Blueprint Kinetic Deflection Amplifier I Blueprint Stasis Webifier I Blueprint 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Blueprint Hobgoblin I Blueprint Basic Expanded Cargohold Blueprint Iridium Charge S Blueprint Thorn Rocket Blueprint Shield Recharger I Blueprint Zydrine, Qty: 11877 Megacyte, Qty: 11664 (Cargo) Mining Director (Cargo) Prototype Cloaking Device I Sensor Dampening Battery (Cargo) Torpedo Battery, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Medium Artillery Battery (Cargo) Advanced Weapon Upgrades, Qty: 2 Minmatar Cruiser, Qty: 3 Research Project Management, Qty: 1 Amarr Freighter, Qty: 1 Pyroxeres Processing, Qty: 1 Megathron Blueprint Armageddon Blueprint Arkonor Processing, Qty: 1 Omber Processing, Qty: 2 Crystal Beta, Qty: 1 Large Hybrid Turret, Qty: 1 Refinery Efficiency, Qty: 2 Bistot Processing, Qty: 1 Jaspet Processing, Qty: 1 Large Projectile Turret, Qty: 1 Tempest Blueprint Cruiser Construction, Qty: 1 Jump Drive Operation, Qty: 2 Heavy Assault Ships, Qty: 1 Logistics, Qty: 1 Interceptors, Qty: 1 Multitasking, Qty: 1 Large Railgun Specialization, Qty: 1 Medium Railgun Specialization, Qty: 1 Medium Pulse Laser Specialization, Qty: 1 Wrath Cruise Missile Blueprint (Complete mail cut down for size but can be viewed on F-E killboards) I really feel sorry for these guys as I know what a loss this is. Flame away if you need but I know how hard someone or some few worked to acquire this stuff to lose it like this. You can contact Naphtalia, Pershphanie or Krullz if you need to, to put an end to this senseless waste of material and hours. As all other posts say, sometimes you gotta call it as you see it, Just call this one and stop taking such losses. Remember the toes you step on today are still connected to the arse you may have to kiss tomorrow.
Lilan Kahn	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:33:00 - [2] looks like BPC's to me..... Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
DeGrand	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:34:00 - [3] Likely yeah. Btw, you missed this one while highlighting: 250mm Railgun II Blueprint
Lilan Kahn	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:37:00 - [4] Originally by: DeGrand Likely yeah. Btw, you missed this one while highlighting: 250mm Railgun II Blueprint omg your not ment to agree with me Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Akoudoulos	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:41:00 - [5] Edited by: Akoudoulos on 06/03/2006 11:41:25 I do not recall any CI postings destroyed item from indys of F-E resulting your posses to go offline during the war but what the hell right? you have to brag about something Anyway i believe all of this are bpc's even the 250 II who will ever get such a bpo in 0.0 and for what? Good kills tho
Kunming	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:42:00 - [6] Its not the first time this happens, we killed a NBSI hauler full of T2 modules, drones and skills in IMK (which is one of FE's hubs). There was no escort or even scout for that hauler.. Industrial ships are for industrial operations, moving ultra-valuable stuff through hostile space is hardly an industrial operation. Looking at all that stuff makes me cry, seriously dont you guys have a covert ops or ceptor? Website Kaos Empire Killboard
Monkey Time	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:45:00 - [7] Originally by: Akoudoulos Edited by: Akoudoulos on 06/03/2006 11:41:25 I do not recall any CI postings destroyed item from indys of F-E resulting your posses to go offline during the war but what the hell right? you have to brag about something Anyway i believe all of this are bpc's even the 250 II who will ever get such a bpo in 0.0 and for what? Good kills tho it didnt come over as a bragging post to me, tbh. its more like they are offering a way out to the nbsi pilots. but, then again, why would nbsi need a way out. they're winning, arent they?
Naphtalia	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:46:00 - [8] Edited by: Naphtalia on 06/03/2006 11:47:34 It is likely the Railgun II was a BPC... However the Battleship blueprints that were looted were real researched BPO's and it seems there was 1 of each 8 Battleships in that hauler, combining the looted BPO's with the BPO/BPC's that were on the killmail. Therefore it is reasonable to assume it was bringing 8 researched BPO's along instead of that the BPC's were all destroyed and the BPO's all survived. Then again, if someone is silly ennough to haul 6 researched BS BPO's 300-500 t2 modules, about 500-1bil in skillbooks, might he just also have taken along the railgun II BPO? :) but for discussion sake, lets asume it was 6 BS BPO's and a Railgun II BPC :) estimated value of hold around 12-16bil from the loot and the destroyed items. This... in an Iteron V... without instas. gg NBSI
Akoudoulos	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:47:00 - [9] Originally by: Monkey Time Originally by: Akoudoulos Edited by: Akoudoulos on 06/03/2006 11:41:25 I do not recall any CI postings destroyed item from indys of F-E resulting your posses to go offline during the war but what the hell right? you have to brag about something Anyway i believe all of this are bpc's even the 250 II who will ever get such a bpo in 0.0 and for what? Good kills tho it didnt come over as a bragging post to me, tbh. its more like they are offering a way out to the nbsi pilots. but, then again, why would nbsi need a way out. they're winning, arent they? As far as i know nbsi's have dignity, they will rather loose everything and left with nothing. they have my respect about that i was not trying to smack do not get me wrong in that, but if you want to offer your enemy an easy way out, you know their leaders contact them
Gissa	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:50:00 - [10] Well tbh, think F-E has outclassed NBSI in flaming/trolling this time. We all know, that there are careless people everywhere. And IBTL
Akoudoulos	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:51:00 - [11] Originally by: Naphtalia Edited by: Naphtalia on 06/03/2006 11:48:13 It is likely the Railgun II was a BPC... However the Battleship blueprints that were looted were real researched BPO's and it seems there was 1 of each 8 Battleships in that hauler, combining the looted BPO's with the BPO/BPC's that were on the killmail. Therefore it is reasonable to assume it was bringing 8 researched BPO's along instead of that the BPC's were all destroyed and the BPO's all survived. Then again, if someone is silly ennough to haul 6 researched BS BPO's 300-500 t2 modules, about 500-1bil in skillbooks, might he just also have taken along the railgun II BPO? :) but for discussion sake, lets asume it was 8BS BPO's and a Railgun II BPC :) estimated value of hold around 12-16bil from the loot and the destroyed items. This... in an Iteron V... without instas. gg NBSI if thats true then wtf nbsi? lol maza when moves around expensive stuff we have like 5-6 scouts and at least transport ships, but thats us :) anyway even with bs bpos is a bad hit, i only hope this was personal assets
Naphtalia	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:51:00 - [12] Edited by: Naphtalia on 06/03/2006 11:51:06 <<..snip..>>
Monkey Time	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Akoudoulos Originally by: Monkey Time Originally by: Akoudoulos Edited by: Akoudoulos on 06/03/2006 11:41:25 I do not recall any CI postings destroyed item from indys of F-E resulting your posses to go offline during the war but what the hell right? you have to brag about something Anyway i believe all of this are bpc's even the 250 II who will ever get such a bpo in 0.0 and for what? Good kills tho it didnt come over as a bragging post to me, tbh. its more like they are offering a way out to the nbsi pilots. but, then again, why would nbsi need a way out. they're winning, arent they? As far as i know nbsi's have dignity, they will rather loose everything and left with nothing. they have my respect about that i was not trying to smack do not get me wrong in that, but if you want to offer your enemy an easy way out, you know their leaders contact them fair enough. but to lose several billion in the name of dignity. thats a lot of dignity. im not smacking either but there comes a point where common sense over rides dignity. anyway, im not entering into a whole discussion about it. each to their own..
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:55:00 - [14] Originally by: Kirin Because I know what it takes to make such an acqisition and what it means to take such a loss, if you need to move such items tell your pilots to use frigs or coverts or just call it, contact us, work out an arrangement to end the hostilities and get your stuff out. I really feel sorry for these guys as I know what a loss this is. Flame away if you need but I know how hard someone or some few worked to acquire this stuff to lose it like this. You can contact Naphtalia, Pershphanie or Krullz if you need to, to put an end to this senseless waste of material and hours. As all other posts say, sometimes you gotta call it as you see it, Just call this one and stop taking such losses. read that again, he aint bragging, he aint flaming Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Akoudoulos	Posted - 2006.03.06 11:55:00 - [15] Originally by: Monkey Time Originally by: Akoudoulos Originally by: Monkey Time Originally by: Akoudoulos Edited by: Akoudoulos on 06/03/2006 11:41:25 I do not recall any CI postings destroyed item from indys of F-E resulting your posses to go offline during the war but what the hell right? you have to brag about something Anyway i believe all of this are bpc's even the 250 II who will ever get such a bpo in 0.0 and for what? Good kills tho it didnt come over as a bragging post to me, tbh. its more like they are offering a way out to the nbsi pilots. but, then again, why would nbsi need a way out. they're winning, arent they? As far as i know nbsi's have dignity, they will rather loose everything and left with nothing. they have my respect about that i was not trying to smack do not get me wrong in that, but if you want to offer your enemy an easy way out, you know their leaders contact them fair enough. but to lose several billion in the name of dignity. thats a lot of dignity. im not smacking either but there comes a point where common sense over rides dignity. anyway, im not entering into a whole discussion about it. each to their own.. good point anyway lets leave the thread to be smacked from others we can have a nice convo ingame anytime, you seem like friendly guy(my overview will have to disagree with me tho )
OzaLoni	Posted - 2006.03.06 12:00:00 - [16] So on the same light can we be expecting F-E's request for hostilities to end - because the contents of a few haulers get blown up.... Please spare me... its funny that I got my hauler out no problem at all, btw pls tell your ceptor pilots to approach their targets :P F-E Hauler Destroyed Items: F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator 1 Warp Core Stabilizer I 1 XLarge C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I 1 Mining Laser Upgrade I 8 Expanded Cargohold I 4 'Anointed' I EM Ward Reinforcement 1 Warp Disruptor I 5 1MN MicroWarpdrive I 1 Power Diagnostic System I 2 Advanced 'Limos' Heavy Missile Bay I 3 10MN MicroWarpdrive I 1 150mm Railgun I 2 Medium Shield Booster I 8 Miner I 2 Fleeting Warp Scrambler I 1 Miner II 2 Warp Scrambler I 5 Juggernaut Torpedo 5000 Ballistic Deflection Field I 1 Heat Dissipation Field I 1 Small Energy Neutralizer I 1 V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix 1 100MN MicroWarpdrive I 1 Small Capacitor Battery I 1 Fixed Parallel Link-Capacitor I 1 Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I 2 Medium Automated Structural Restoration 1 125mm Prototype I Gauss Gun 1 Dual Diode Mining Laser I 2 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I 4 ZW-4100 Siege Missile Bay 6 'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher I 1 Additional Thermal Barrier Emitter I 1 Heat Dissipation Amplifier II 2 Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II 1 Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II 2 Supplemental Thermal Barrier Emitter 1 Viscoelastic EM Ward Salubrity I 1 Ballistic Deflection Field II 2 F-S15 Braced Deflection Shield Matrix 2 Invulnerability Field I 1 Photon Scattering Field I 1 Medium YF-12a Smartbomb 1 Medium Projectile Turret 1 Trajectory Analysis 1 Remote Armor Repair Systems 1 Defender Missiles 1 Caldari Shuttle 4 Cu Vapor Particle Bore Stream I 1 Ice Harvester Upgrade I 9 Passive Targeter I 5 Survived: Recon Ship Skill 1 HAC Skill 1 Plus some other goodies Anyway I didn't come here to smack or flame, just to point out that an alliance is more a few bpc's and this is nothing but flamebait. Evemail is your friend... Flame away!
Voltron	Posted - 2006.03.06 12:03:00 - [17] Damn, quite unfortunate for NBSI if in fact it was 8 bpos and not bpcs, I can only hope for them it was bpc's.....guess from now on every f-e hauler full of POS equipment/fuel/zyd/anything I pop I'll be comin on and offering them "a way out" . Volt Chuck Norris is far too over-hyped......Dan Akroyd FTW.
dalman	Posted - 2006.03.06 12:04:00 - [18] Originally by: OzaLoni Anyway I didn't come here to smack or flame, just to point out that an alliance is more a few bpc's and this is nothing but flamebait. Evemail is your friend... Flame away! Except it was BPOs and the NBSI hauler had items worth 100x as much as your kill. But kinda agree anyway. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Nafri	Posted - 2006.03.06 12:13:00 - [19] Originally by: dalman Originally by: OzaLoni Anyway I didn't come here to smack or flame, just to point out that an alliance is more a few bpc's and this is nothing but flamebait. Evemail is your friend... Flame away! Except it was BPOs and the NBSI hauler had items worth 100x as much as your kill. But kinda agree anyway. Doesnt matter, bragging is bad anyway, as suggested before, if you have questions to special parties, feel free to evemail them
OzaLoni	Posted - 2006.03.06 12:14:00 - [20] Originally by: dalman Originally by: OzaLoni Anyway I didn't come here to smack or flame, just to point out that an alliance is more a few bpc's and this is nothing but flamebait. Evemail is your friend... Flame away! Except it was BPOs and the NBSI hauler had items worth 100x as much as your kill. But kinda agree anyway. Your propably right but its still funny to see...... I wonder if this is gonna get this thread click of doom
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.06 12:22:00 - [21] Originally by: OzaLoni Originally by: dalman Originally by: OzaLoni Anyway I didn't come here to smack or flame, just to point out that an alliance is more a few bpc's and this is nothing but flamebait. Evemail is your friend... Flame away! Except it was BPOs and the NBSI hauler had items worth 100x as much as your kill. But kinda agree anyway. Your propably right but its still funny to see...... I wonder if this is gonna get this thread click of doom the important difference here is not the ISK value but that obviuosly they are trying to get all their assets out of 0.0, for which Kirin made his offer to avoid such "tragedies" he posted the losses which prompted him to this offer I think Kirin made it in good will but i guess ppl dont want to see that Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Mephistos	Posted - 2006.03.06 12:37:00 - [22] A couple things: 1) Is there some button I'm missing to find the full kill mail on your boards? I found one part of it but it doesn't list all the BPOs. (Don't take that in a negative light btw, it's not meant as such) 2) While this did happen to my corpmate, people need to learn to move stuff that doesn't take up space in smaller faster ships :/. I can't think of how many times I've seen a hauler blow up (friendly or hostile) that had lots of valuable mods or skills that could have just as easilly been transported in something that could have gotten away and/or not been insta popped. 3) Really Kirin, if we took that generous offer of yours, what would happen to all the fun flaming that's been littering this forum for the last few weeks? All the drama would go away and we'd have nothing to read. Then shortly thereafter IRON/G and F-E/5 would either settle their war with a victor or a nap, and then the north would be boring again :p.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.03.06 12:46:00 - [23] Seeing kills like this make me dispair regardless of the alliance or target, indies in 0.0 are good for trit and little else. Covert ops 4tw when taking out small high value items. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Shyalud	Posted - 2006.03.06 13:14:00 - [24] Whether Kirin posted the offer correctly or not, FE are not pirates. It actually pained us, the leadership anyways, to read that kill mail. Personally, I like most of the guys in OCC and regret their loss. However, we are at war so I guess this should be expected. I think most in my alliance would accept, graciously, NBSI's "surrender". This fight reminds me of the movie North and South (American civil war movie). Where brothers and friends go to war against each other. Good luck to OCC in the future. *** Celestine Prophecy may be the corp for you!! Check out our recruitment thread.
Capt Rob	Posted - 2006.03.06 13:20:00 - [25] yes carrying all that stuff alone in a hauler is retarded, but on how nbsi are atm i would guess it was just a solo guy who thought he could escape. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Ishana	Posted - 2006.03.06 13:28:00 - [26] Same can be said for PA tbh. The number of exit bound haulers we blow up is steadely increasing. From the other thread on this forum it's clear to me that allot of PA are done with the war and want out. Personally it pains me to see hauler after hauler going poof, which obviously contain someones personal stuff. I've also been contacted by a PA member as to why he can't be left allone when trying to get all his stuff out of 0.0. If allot of people in PA feel that way, I'm sure our respective leaders could arrange something. Like a temporairy NAP to let everyone that wisses to do so, leave savely to empire. Disclaimer: this is not ment as flaim bait, and should not be seen as anthing other then a gesture of good will. _________________________________________________________
Mephistos	Posted - 2006.03.06 13:36:00 - [27] Shy, you need to look at killmails like that and think, "oooh, juicy hauler full of shiny loot!". You need to think that every time you see a hauler, be it friendly, or in empire. Become a pirate, leave your carebeary ways!
Shyalud	Posted - 2006.03.06 13:40:00 - [28] Originally by: Mephistos Shy, you need to look at killmails like that and think, "oooh, juicy hauler full of shiny loot!". You need to think that every time you see a hauler, be it friendly, or in empire. Become a pirate, leave your carebeary ways! lol, k <----Damn, doesn't feel right! *** Celestine Prophecy may be the corp for you!! Check out our recruitment thread.
Mark A	Posted - 2006.03.06 14:04:00 - [29] Edited by: Mark A on 06/03/2006 14:14:27 Originally by: Ishana Same can be said for PA tbh. The number of exit bound haulers we blow up is steadely increasing. From the other thread on this forum it's clear to me that allot of PA are done with the war and want out. Personally it pains me to see hauler after hauler going poof, which obviously contain someones personal stuff. I've also been contacted by a PA member as to why he can't be left allone when trying to get all his stuff out of 0.0. If allot of people in PA feel that way, I'm sure our respective leaders could arrange something. Like a temporairy NAP to let everyone that wisses to do so, leave savely to empire. It's hard to feel too sorry for PA. They've been making a fortune strip-mining mercoxit for months now while letting their military and leadership structure go down the toilet. And all the while claiming to be "indestructible" etc. So they lose a few mods on the way back to empire, might make them think twice next time TBH. I lost a hauler full of random mods to a PA sniper on the way up, so it works both ways. They might get more sympathy if they got their own die-hards to stand down, or quit PA as a sign of good faith. BTW isn't the funny part of the NBSI thing not the value, but that it's mostly carebear mining equipment? I guess roids are technically "not blue" . Perhaps they figure they need to mine as much as possible before they get booted out too. Going soft ftl tbfh... _____________________________ There is no lag in...BOARDING SHIP... Originally by: Crazy Alchemist Mark A is a legend on the battlefield
Gibmundur	Posted - 2006.03.06 14:09:00 - [30] C C P M A K E I T S O T H A T Y O U C A N S C A N B P O ' S P L Z 1111111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FrioBebe	Posted - 2006.03.06 14:14:00 - [31] Originally by: Chi Prime Linkage to killmail OMG Greg actually killed someone Linkage
OzaLoni	Posted - 2006.03.06 14:27:00 - [32] In Light of original post... Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Chi Prime Edited by: Chi Prime on 06/03/2006 13:57:08 Ahem.. as much as I <3 you Napht... should you really be posting in this thread? Linkage to killmail You muppet! NB: Suicide ops in vigils without checking the cargohold is bad, mmmkay. you can't link Kmails in the forums Now that is what I call sweet irony.....
Jungle Jim	Posted - 2006.03.06 14:51:00 - [33] Originally by: FrioBebe Originally by: Chi Prime Linkage to killmail OMG Greg actually killed someone Linkage Yeah... Naph got PWND! * Proud First Time Winner of the MLM Muppet Award *
Estilo	Posted - 2006.03.06 14:58:00 - [34] I r alt, i heard d loss in reality was over 20bill. including t2 bpos well researched. jebus you could pay the best merc corp in eve to escort u out but ..just ranting here..greedy indys/carebears who go mine mine mine mine deserve no better. sorry m8. its a game and only pixels u lose
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2006.03.06 15:07:00 - [35] LoL Ouch KIA got a very similar mail from a PA pilot in torr a few weeks ago, why do people transport Bps in ships that can be stopped. KIA Piccys
geewiz	Posted - 2006.03.06 15:15:00 - [36] Edited by: geewiz on 06/03/2006 15:16:17 Edited by: geewiz on 06/03/2006 15:15:52 Originally by: KIAEddZ LoL Ouch KIA got a very similar mail from a PA pilot in torr a few weeks ago, why do people transport Bps in ships that can be stopped. Yep, it's pretty amazing. A frig with BM's is "almost" unstoppable unless you get very unlucky or very bad lag! Gee
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.03.06 15:27:00 - [37] Originally by: Mark A Edited by: Mark A on 06/03/2006 14:14:27 BTW isn't the funny part of the NBSI thing not the value, but that it's mostly carebear mining equipment? I guess roids are technically "not blue" Roids are blue in BOS.
Adam C	Posted - 2006.03.06 15:35:00 - [38] ive heard alot of dim hauler pilot stories recently. Im beginning to think their all lacking in piloting and scouting skillz
Oceana	Posted - 2006.03.06 16:25:00 - [39] All sides have kills like this one, eg. check out the [5] Iteron V loss on the NBSI killboard from Feb 27. Should we have offered 5 safe passage through Tenal? meh Not trying to flame, just saying people sometimes make unfortunate choices, on all sides of this conflict, both in and out of combat. I feel sorry for the pilots involved, the game is not very fun at moments like those and the point of playing games is to have fun. No need for threads like this, we can all read killboards.

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.03.06 16:48:00 - [40] Flamebait Click. --- forum rules \| [email protected] I ♥ You.... ¬ Shepherd of the [23] Abdalion is evil and tortures alt trolls for fun -Zhuge Liang


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