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Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
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Posted - 2013.12.14 02:46:00 -
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This is going to come across as a 'WTFegopost' but actually what I'm trying to do is show people pro pvp is not as pro as you think it is. 20% of fights need /pro mode engaged but the rest need as I explain below. Example below.
I call it Gizmo and he's awesome. If you laugh at this fit then clearly you are not a l33t novice plex pvper. I'm also not but if a l33t solo novice plex pvper flew this he'd be totally proier than I am.
[Atron, rail kite] Tracking Enhancer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Tracking Enhancer II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S 150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S 150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot]
Small Ionic Field Projector I Small Ionic Field Projector I Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
This is a rail atron, load 500 jav, anti-matter and spike and you are good to go. It costs somewhere around 6 million isk.
This month, so far I have 51 kills for 4 losses in this ship. Many of which are pure solo and i have to say has been the most fun I've had in eve for a very long time. Not because it's pro but because the ship doesn't matter, which is why I'll just enter any plex whatever the hell is on gate and pew some ****. Freedom in eve at its finest and ANYONE can do this.
I use lg snakes and zor with 3% implants on surgical strike, trajectory analysis. this means I travel at 5100ms. Without it I travel at 4242ms and its important to realise that the kills I have would have happened implants or not. I didn't use links, I made a point of it.
How did I kill 80% of my targets?
Warp into plex, click keep at range 17500m, activate MWD, lock target and apply point, web and rails. 9/10 times you will clear range before you get scramed, if you get webbed don't worry, you've webbed target and you have mwd active, you'll be fine. If you do get scrammed there is a very high chance you'll coast out of scram range to re engage it so watch for that and re engage mwd when you can.
This is not the only ship that can do this, lml condor is king, arty rifter does same job, beam exec (yes its a thing) also. Basically anything thats fast, can shoot 20-22km and can stay out of range to the target while it's trying to murder your beloved face that mum so lovingly crafted for you with daddy.
Be sure to welp to a suitable battlecry, my faves being 'DAI WT SCUM TO THE ALL POWAHFUL GIIIIIIZMOOOOOOOOOOOO'
or just 'GIIIIIIIZMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO' for short.
You will die to anything with an lml...... OR WILL YOU???? (check killboard for solo lml kestral kill LOL) but yes you should :) Otherwise its all good specifically if you engage a brawler. I've had great fights against other kiters but they tend to be a draw a lot more on both parts and both parties end up urning from each other and bailing or take a breather :)
I am terrible at this game, if I can do this so can you :)
In summary, 80% of my fights required NO SKILL AT ALL!. This is fortunate because if I have to think I'm ******.....
-Warp into target or let him come to you -Click keep at range and set it to 17500 -Apply point, web if it sticks and rails -If target starts to try to draw you into range using slingshot or /promode then overheat web and spam that **** at 14km range... he'll **** off sharpish. -Kill target
-If target can hurt you GTFO because you super quick like a ferret chasing a rabbit down a pipe and shizzle.... or just dai because 6mill is bugger all. Your choice.
Once you can do this now you can apply same theory into other ships, scale up, through the tiers, through the ship classes till your kiting like a pro. Remember though, now you can have a feeling of self satisfaction because you decided to go pro, make a movie or something!
P.S. once you believe OMG I am pro, now add links. Grats, you just became awesome at eve solo frig pvp in fw ;)
P.P.S someones going to say TD counter you n00b! Nope, load spike... do same thing. Fights longer but same outcome.
disclaimer: if this fails and you give up it's probably because you just need more practise :)
(I love all soloers, especially those that make awesome win videos but the myth that eve pvp is hard must be broken. It's not, it's just maths and the control of your own fear of loss.)
Have fun guys :) |
trader joes Ichinumi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.14 05:41:00 -
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My pro FW build:
Guns Guns
Afterburner Shield Extender
Warp Stabilizer Warp Stabilizer Warp Stabilizer
CPU booster CPU booster Thermal resistance
I almost never die with it. |
Clahim
The Wings of Maak Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2013.12.14 09:49:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote: The myth that eve pvp is hard must be broken. It's not, it's just maths and the control of your own fear of loss.
Have fun guys :)
The wisdom here is so high... It blew my mind, I couldn't agree more darling. Good read :) |
Master Sergeant MacRobert
Space-Brewery-Association 24eme Legion Etrangere
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Posted - 2013.12.14 10:54:00 -
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Love it.
May I have extra cheese and two pickles on my burger of irony?
=-) |
Danny John-Peter
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2013.12.14 13:32:00 -
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This is actually a good post.
I dont understand. |
Starbuck05
The Mjolnir Bloc B O R G
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Posted - 2013.12.14 15:01:00 -
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how much coffee did u have before posting chriss ? cause it seems abit .. over the top :P
Good read though , i'l defo try it myself and see how it goes -á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir ! -á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ?? |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
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Posted - 2013.12.14 18:30:00 -
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lol hey guys. I was a little drunk when I wrote this. Reading it back through it doesn't actually seem that bad although as we all know kids.
DON'T DRINK AND POST!
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SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.14 18:54:00 -
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Good Post;
My favorite FW fit:
[Merlin, Passive Shield Turtle]
Power Diagnostic system II Power Diagnostic system II beta reactor control:shield power relative
Adaptiver invulnerability field II Medium shield extender II Medium shield extender II ECM-multispectral jammer II
125 MM gatling autocanon II 150 MM lite autocanon II 200 MM autocanon II
small core defense field extender I small core defense field extender I small core defense field extender I
No single ship that can get into a novice plex can kill you. You can spend all day shooting at eachother, if you get into trouble to wait to land a jam and warp away.
You won't kill anyone with this, but its still amusing.
your humble servent SeaSaw
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Starbuck05
The Mjolnir Bloc B O R G
87
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:32:00 -
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Damn...
Every good thread has a drunk guy behind it.. -á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir ! -á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ?? |
Iogrim
Matterhorn.
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Posted - 2013.12.14 21:09:00 -
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I have been flying similar fit and beam executioner since last year's frigate revamp. The tactic works greatly, but it also has a number of counters. |
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Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force A T O N E M E N T
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Posted - 2013.12.15 01:39:00 -
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The Venture still holds its title as king of PvP. When paired with an ECM Ibis (Who needs solo anyways right?) and three boosting alts + hard drugs / silicon implants. I find it really hard for people to beat me in my 1337 solo PvP. |
Angsty Teenager
Broski North Black Legion.
182
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:53:00 -
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Wrong, better way is to fly a T2 fit HG crystal skirm/siege linked hawk.
costs like 40mil per ship and you're virtually unkillable in any frig/destroyer 1v1 or 2v1 scenarios. |
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
365
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Posted - 2013.12.15 05:03:00 -
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Poasting your fit is second only to local intel.
Not pro.
If you want to proclaim yourself pro, you need to post long florid paragraphs full of sperg and self aggrandisement and a battle report showing your PvPPPPPP victory.
Seriously, have you ever played the forum game before?
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Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
372
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Posted - 2013.12.15 05:51:00 -
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Forums a game? Wait, what? Who... when? Why did no one say!?!?
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Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
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Posted - 2013.12.15 07:46:00 -
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no |
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
406
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Posted - 2013.12.15 09:51:00 -
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Tracking disruptors. Look at it again, but with speed instead of range. |
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
406
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Posted - 2013.12.15 09:57:00 -
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I mean, yes, snaked kiters can skitter away from scram/web/AB brawlers if the latter isn't on top of things (which they frequently won't be because they don't realize it's possible).
But you can always bet on bad. |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
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Posted - 2013.12.15 18:32:00 -
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Hey Milton, I have many fights where people switch td scripts to try to counter the kite. They can't. If I'm holding range I have literally 0 transveral. Some people have attempted to get some going but all it does it lower my already low dps, the fight will go longer but the outcome is unavoidable if i'm in position. As I said above, against kiters yes it's a problem, however one overheated mwd later and I'm 100km away looking for my next target.
Either way I guess my post up there is to show the newer guys that getting in a plex and getting kills solo or in very small gangs does not require some godly understanding of eve. That'll come over time but don't let the fear of you losing ships or a poor killboard stop you. Ships like that atron will give you a great chance of getting good pew, some kills and importantly the experience you need to know where the holes in my argument are :)
I just posted a post when drunk when I actually should have thought more :P
Get out there and pew my FW brethren!
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Faceless Parmala
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
12
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Posted - 2013.12.15 20:33:00 -
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confirming scram web condors suck to come across when you mistake them for kitters. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2221
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Posted - 2013.12.16 05:32:00 -
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can't even kill a curse eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
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Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
377
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Posted - 2013.12.16 12:57:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:lol hey guys. I was a little drunk when I wrote this. Reading it back through it doesn't actually seem that bad although as we all know kids.
DON'T DRINK AND POST!
Morg, iv serous always loved you drunk, you do make EVE so much funnier.
btw, drunk or not, topic holds. Nisroc Angels - The Obsidian Front Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
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Grim Hood
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
5
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:34:00 -
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Effective but very boring. I flew a kitey Tristan for a bit. Orbit at 17km, watch Katy Perry boob jiggle gifs, return to game and loot wreck. A Good Death Is It's Own Reward |
IbanezLaney
the church of awesome Caldari State Capturing
706
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:40:00 -
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Grim Hood wrote:, watch Katy Perry boob jiggle gifs,.
Link plz? If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
Meditril
T.R.I.A.D
319
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Posted - 2013.12.21 19:04:00 -
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Kiting is just cruel... you can watch how your victim is slowly dieing without being able to do anything against it (especially if only AB fitted).
Therefore United Nations should ban kiting due to its inhumanity |
YouAreMyBounty Sarn
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.01.03 12:22:00 -
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I could look you up on eve kill, see your fit, decide I'd fight only if you jumped into me, use double web and a scram as you land through the gate, and brawl until you die. You should explain what you believe your list of pro characteristics are, or explain why you believe people think "pro pvp is not as pro as you think it is". Once you've identified what "pro" is in your personal opinion, then maybe people could understand what you're going on about. |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
197
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Posted - 2014.01.03 12:25:00 -
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Just fly a ghetto condor more dps, honor disruptor and tank |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
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Posted - 2014.01.03 12:44:00 -
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YouAreMyBounty Sarn wrote:I could look you up on eve kill, see your fit, decide I'd fight only if you jumped into me, use double web and a scram as you land through the gate, and brawl until you die. You should explain what you believe your list of pro characteristics are, or explain why you believe people think "pro pvp is not as pro as you think it is". Once you've identified what "pro" is in your personal opinion, then maybe people could understand what you're going on about.
You just graduated to pro. gratz. In all seriousness that's why I said you win 80% of fights like my post, sometimes you find a try hard and then you may lose a 6mill atron... oh noez! . Your point on what is 'pro' is of course valid and why I would rather have created that guide less tongue in cheek. As I suggested later in the thread 'don't drink and post kids'. It's why I was happy to let the thread sink and may come back to it later in a youtube video rather than a drunk post.
You never know though, someone may have read it, understood me and actually gone out and killed some stuff realising OMG, most eve pvp is easy as hell 80% of the time.
Gorski, indeed. Condor is king. |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
197
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Posted - 2014.01.03 14:17:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/8FI8FlN.jpg condor so good I don't even have to be at my computer for kills |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
461
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Posted - 2014.01.03 14:50:00 -
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I think I just pissed a little in my trousers laughing at that... |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
621
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Posted - 2014.01.03 15:47:00 -
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Kiting is so 2008 E.A.D
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