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Heineken Drunkwalker	Posted - 2006.03.07 06:20:00 - [1] Specifically, they need to learn that in order to engender employee loyalty, they actually need to give back to the employee something for their work. Take this all as you will; grain of salt, face value. Here are the relavent facts as I can see them: I joined the Intersteller Wal-Mart corporation because my old five-man corp picked fights it coulden't win, and was getting me killed. I was told that I would be safe in their alliance, and that I could make a crapload of ISK by mining for them, working on their starbase. I haven't seen a red ISK yet. In light of that, and given that I generally hate EvE, more or less because of the treatment at their hands, I sought to recompensate my losses. First I as a matter of course cleaned out the humdrum junk in their hangar arrays. Lost it all to a gate camp, but oh well. Secondly I tried to sell them out to the people on their enemies list, but was majorly lost in doing so. Thirdly, and perhaps in a move that should have been done secondly, I attempted to extract hush-money from the corp. I wasen't asking much, but I did make it clear that I would be doing this if they did not pay. (The reason for the hush-money, you see, is because a foolish friend of mine has become addicted to EvE, and I figured I'd help him out.) Fourthly, I finally managed to contact a member of the corp my alliance is at war with, but the member of the SMASH alliance that I could reach wasen't buying. Megasaxon, this info could have been yours, but you foolishly chose to tell me I was full of it. So, here's the deal. The alliance starbase is being built under a stealth approach. Specifically, the only people who work on it are members of the Interstellar Wal-Mart Corporation; any resources aquired by the other alliance members for the project get taken to the alliance by Instersteller Wal-Mart Corp members. The project is made to look as if it is only the IWC working on it, but it is in fact the alliance's baby. They have, at least until now, kept their big guns away from it. The following information will likely become out of date quickly, so give them hell while you can. Their starbase is in Y8R-XZ. I'm sure I don't have to tell anybody that it's about 20 AU from any landmark, so you'll have to use probes to find it. It's protected by a Caldari Control Tower, within which are twelve cruise missile towers, in four clusters of three. Each cruise missile tower cluster is in turn protected by a trio of Medium Laser Towers. Only roughly half the defenses are operational at any given time. Six or seven of the cruise missile towers are active, and only one laser tower in any given cluster. For manned defenses, the site has on-hand a variety of Caldari and Amarr cruisers, fit with T1 unnamed fittings, set up with cruise missiles to augment the towers. The starbase has so far relied solely on stealth to survive. By looking undermanner and under-funded for an alliance project, and by keeping their dreadnaughts strictly away from the site, they hoped to stay under the radar. None of the SNU's big guns are capable of getting to the location with any real speed; the heaviest defense you could realistically encounter is battleships flown by IWC members. Why did I do this? Because you never gave me a cut. You treated me like a mining drone with a barge. Supplying strip miners and a barge does not make up for the fact that you turned my entire EvE experiance into an excercise in the wild life of a mining-barge-pusher. And so, to the members of IWC, I wish you a safe and productive day, with the caveat that they become far fewer in the immideate future. To SMASH Alliance, or anyone looking to grind or swing the axe, happy hunting. Give 'em hell for me, I hope you have more fun with EvE than I do. To anyone thinking about hurting me, don't bother. This is the last thing I'll ever do that touches EvE. That's it, I'm gone. Adios, happy trails. Unless you're IWC, in which case may your trail have a rattlesnake on it.
hotandsexy	Posted - 2006.03.07 06:26:00 - [2] What?
Mallik Hendrake	Posted - 2006.03.07 06:33:00 - [3] You didn't figure that a corp with the name 'wal-mart' in it would treat its employees like human cattle? -------------------------------------------- "A plan is just a list of things that don't happen." -- Parker, _The Way of the Gun_ Mallik Hendrake E X O D U S [I do not speak for E X O or IRON]
Jacinto Naysmith	Posted - 2006.03.07 06:46:00 - [4] From reading your post I take it you don't know much about POS's (or cruisers for that matter).
Farjung	Posted - 2006.03.07 07:05:00 - [5] Edited by: Farjung on 07/03/2006 07:11:14 Originally by: Heineken Drunkwalker Their starbase is in Y8R-XZ. I'm sure I don't have to tell anybody that it's about 20 AU from any landmark, so you'll have to use probes to find it. It's protected by a Caldari Control Tower, within which are twelve cruise missile towers, in four clusters of three. Each cruise missile tower cluster is in turn protected by a trio of Medium Laser Towers. If you're going to make things up, either do a bit more research into the subject matter or don't go into details :\|. Control towers can only be erected at moons. And cruisers fitted with cruise missiles are so very 2004.
C0CK KN0CKER	Posted - 2006.03.07 07:43:00 - [6] Damn, am I too late for the popcorn?? ----------------- Mailorder Brides just for you. Free isk if ordered before May
Graalum	Posted - 2006.03.07 07:55:00 - [7]
slothe	Posted - 2006.03.07 08:44:00 - [8] i think the best way you undermine them is by showing they recruit people like you.
Durvaul	Posted - 2006.03.07 08:48:00 - [9] Awww let me guess, u did jack all work, and expected to egt paid for it? This Sig May Contain Voilent Messages that Only A Trained Spy Of Assassin Can See, mmkay?
Therem Harth	Posted - 2006.03.07 09:14:00 - [10] Must have been raining somewhere - toads are multiplying by the day.
Darken Two	Posted - 2006.03.07 09:16:00 - [11] His intel makes no sense or SNU are all Devs who secretly formed an alliance for world domination. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Graalum	Posted - 2006.03.07 09:34:00 - [12] Originally by: slothe i think the best way you undermine them is by showing they recruit people like you. i'd like to refute this, but i'll wait for someone official to come along and clarify. I've gotten myself in enough trouble posting on these forums already.
Darken Two	Posted - 2006.03.07 09:35:00 - [13] Originally by: Graalum Originally by: slothe i think the best way you undermine them is by showing they recruit people like you. i'd like to refute this, but i'll wait for someone official to come along and clarify. I've gotten myself in enough trouble posting on these forums already. Lol I think Slothe was jokin. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Crypt	Posted - 2006.03.07 10:19:00 - [14] Best laugh I've had in a while. Thanks OP.
Dracorimus	Posted - 2006.03.07 10:44:00 - [15] To the OP, you do realise there are a plethora of things to do in EvE besides mining for someone and hoping they pay you for it.....LoL Well one less whining carebear - Darwin just wins EvE - Comin' at ya!
Bad Character	Posted - 2006.03.07 11:07:00 - [16] You see: We allready knew this but the construction of our giant laser is taking up a little more time than expected When it is ready, however, we will fire it upon your cruise-cruisers and you stealth station unless you pay us ONE MILLION ISK !!! And of course you'll have to stop using stealth as everybody knows the bad guys are supposed to have stealth and sneakyness... not the good guys. And I am bad, you know. It's even in my name. Now let's dance teh funkies
SinBin	Posted - 2006.03.07 11:25:00 - [17] This sound simaler to the guy who wanted to be treated as a god ? is he your mate you speak of ?. His 1 was much more funny tho but still this is pritty funny. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Kye Kenshin	Posted - 2006.03.07 11:48:00 - [18] You know the simple solution would of been to leave the corp and find one that suited you're play-style. But i guess you're an idiot.
Laythun	Posted - 2006.03.07 13:03:00 - [19] OP Question. How do u put an outpost 20 AU from any landmark??? how do u get the distance so accurate?? How do u do it by 'stealth' ??? How do you fit cruise launchers on a cruiser??? ive trid mine but i just dont seem to hve the PG. Also i sympathise with you, mining is soo tough sometimes, you should just stick with it, mining is its own reward! oh yeah STOP BEING SO STUPID. your intelsounds like utter bs tbh, get a grip and go do someting else. they cant 'force' u to mine at all. where can i petition the ISD member that messed with my sig for no reason?
Aminatar	Posted - 2006.03.07 13:29:00 - [20] a wizard did it
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.03.07 13:31:00 - [21] ROFL nubies that wanna make cash without working... try GTCs.... - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)
Too Ducky	Posted - 2006.03.07 13:54:00 - [22] Right, now for the offical word from a TIWC Director Heineken in effect was caught out the other day for approaching another corporation to sell information and to arrange corp thefts etc. I have seen a copy of the mail sent to TIWC's CEO alt and can confirm he has already admitted to stealing a bunch of cheap loot from our hanger. This is just a flame thread, because at the time of his post he had been locked out of all access to hangers etc, and his plan has failed. Yesterday also saw the process of him being expelled from the corp. Firstly in the few weeks Heineken has been in my corp (vouched for by fellow members) he has not taken part in any mining ops or any corp operations full stop. Of course he has not seen any ISK, because he hasn't contributed in any way to the Corp. I don't take this thread seriously, and of course I would not recommend any other corp lets this person into their corporation. Its very difficult not to flame in response to Heineken's post, but the quality of his post doesn't really warrant further time and effort in my reply. Basically effort = reward and I never saw any effort from him. I suggest people read this and learn a lesson from what sort of people may be out there in eve. We all have to be alert, and I thank the honerable corp leader who brought Heinekens dishonesty to our attention. __________________________________________ Director of TIWC Proud member of SNU
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.03.07 14:04:00 - [23] ehm ok join soar angelic
Cell Satimo	Posted - 2006.03.07 15:25:00 - [24] IIRC Real-life company names are not allowed in corporation names. IMO there should be a special case where all accounts associated with insidious asthetically void RL corps should be terminated with an extra credit-card charge for the annoyance. The only saving grace in this story is that your virtual corp acted identically to the RL one. What oh what was everyone in this story thinking? /emote heads off to organise a labour union for ISWM members so they can all be fired for even thinking about joining a union and freed from slavery.
dabster	Posted - 2006.03.07 15:56:00 - [25] OP = Pwnd in the eye ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Mag's	Posted - 2006.03.07 16:53:00 - [26] This is a joke.... right?
Lt Hole	Posted - 2006.03.07 17:10:00 - [27] Originally by: Mallik Hendrake You didn't figure that a corp with the name 'wal-mart' in it would treat its employees like human cattle? You're a DOODY-HEAD!
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.03.07 17:11:00 - [28] Made me laugh, I love his intel where he demostrates a complete lack of understanding of game mechanics to say that the POS is 20Au from any landmark and is defended by cruise missile wielding cruisers. Oh well the game just became richer by his leaving . President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Doc Punkiller	Posted - 2006.03.07 17:30:00 - [29] Originally by: Cell Satimo IIRC Real-life company names are not allowed in corporation names. You mean like this one ? Satimo http://www.boursorama.com/cours.phtml?symbole=1rEPALSAT
slothe	Posted - 2006.03.07 17:35:00 - [30] Originally by: Graalum Originally by: slothe i think the best way you undermine them is by showing they recruit people like you. i'd like to refute this, but i'll wait for someone official to come along and clarify. I've gotten myself in enough trouble posting on these forums already. i was talking about the original poster and semi joking. my point is that the original posters making a fool about himself not walmart or snu.

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