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icedragon2072
Digital Nonsense It is hard being this sexy
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:04:00 -
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The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? |

Cela Kashuken
EVE University Ivy League
8
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:06:00 -
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...and control Eve online with a gamepad? |

icedragon2072
Digital Nonsense It is hard being this sexy
1
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:10:00 -
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wouldnt have too, they implemented dust with key board mouse on ps3..surely could be done for the ps4.. |

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
830
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:10:00 -
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icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe.
But why? CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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James Nikolas Tesla
Coalition Of Organised Pilots
5
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:16:00 -
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Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why? Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs. I am an AFK miner, don't like it? Try to gank me, odds are I am already aligned and not that far from my keyboard. |

Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
383
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:19:00 -
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You thought the tears for multiboxing was bad now, if the console croud get and and are like OHMAGERD PCs WITH MORE THAN 1 CLIENT IMBASHITWTFOMGBBQ11!!!!eleventyone!!!1!!! |

MestariBation
Viziam Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:19:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why? Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs. I bet that 300dollah rig is enough for EVE. Send me isk im poor |

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
830
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:19:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why? Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs. And that is bad?
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
26
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:37:00 -
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icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible?
DuSt 514 on PC would be better than console thats what I believe should had happen from the start.
But ps4 umm no thanks.
I tried DuSt 514 once and I will never go back.
I am a dedicated EvE player not a dedicated DuSt 514 Player.
Thats my two cents worth  I am not a CCP employee-ájust having a input in the EvE forum
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6974
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:41:00 -
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This is like asking for Starcraft on the Nintendo 64. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
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Ambassador Crane
Hellhound Productions
52
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:41:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why? Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs.
My current rig probably equates to about $500 tops (built from ground up and modified over time so don't have an exact amount) I can run CQ simultaneously, smoothly, at highest graphics settings, for the two accounts I own. If you can afford a PS4, you can afford a rig good enough to run at least one Eve client at max settings for less than a PS4.
In other words, find a better reason than that.
Frankly, it's bad enough Dust is only on PS3 and at present they have not announced any plans to make it available on PC, much to the current Eve community's disapproval. Why would they put Eve on PS4? |

Jill Chastot
Aliastra Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:43:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why? Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs.
I can play eve on a 5 yr old laptop.... It all depends on how much you value the graphical settings. |

Kryptik Kai
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1953
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Posted - 2013.12.17 01:49:00 -
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Ambassador Crane wrote: Frankly, it's bad enough Dust is only on PS3 and at present they have not announced any plans to make it available on PC, much to the current Eve community's disapproval. Why would they put Eve on PS4?
Well, Dust flopped, why not watch EVE flop on console.
I mean... does anyone really see the typical console player having the patience required for this game? "Shiny.-á Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb |

Ursula Thrace
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
204
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:27:00 -
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pcmasterrace > all console systems eve online original intro
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Rainbow Dash
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
66
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:20:00 -
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My laptop cost $600 four years ago when I bought it, still runs eve fine.
I'll sell it to you for only $200, which is less than a PS4. |

Boomhaur
161
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:42:00 -
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You can run eve on some pretty low hardware now days (low as in whats current). If you can afford a PS4 you can afford a rig that runs eve easily. I just rebuilt my machine 6months ago and it has an AMD 750k, gtx 650, 4gb ram. Those 3 parts plus the motherboard set me back around $250 as a rough estimate. But just an AMD APU alone is more than enough to run Eve, there is no need for a dedicated GPU for this game. Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you. |

jaon43
UK Corp RAZOR Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:00:00 -
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Lord Gaben does not approve of this |

Leigh Akiga
Trickle Down Economics
375
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:33:00 -
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No, no and no means no. |

Digital Messiah
Digital Alchemist Abandon PlayGrounds
345
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:34:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:This is like asking for Starcraft on the Nintendo 64. They did, and it was fun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft#Nintendo_64_version Something clever |

icedragon2072
Digital Nonsense It is hard being this sexy
1
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:38:00 -
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well, in my oppinion the ps4 can run it better graphics wise than a comparable priced desktop :P. and it's easier than a desktop to take with you where you want to go etc..just more convinance/graphics thing..while i agree multi accounts might be a bit difficult i would still opt to play it..or hell..maybe have one runing on ps4 and the desktop for the rest of the stuff.
And on the starcraft note...it was made for the 64 "starcraft 64" to be exact i actually played it on console before the pc it took the expansion pack to play multiplayer and brood war lol. |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6972
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:40:00 -
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Yes, I'm aware that they did. I think you missed my point. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
823
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:43:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Yes, I'm aware that they did. I think you missed my point. Doesn't the fact that he liked it counter your point at least in part? |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6972
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Posted - 2013.12.17 05:05:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Yes, I'm aware that they did. I think you missed my point. Doesn't the fact that he liked it counter your point at least in part? It doesn't really counter the point that console controls were absolutely terrible for that kind of game. Such is the same for EVE.
The PS4 has the advantage that you can hook up a keyboard and mouse to it, but eh... Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2136
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Posted - 2013.12.17 05:29:00 -
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icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible?
This idea is everything that's wrong with consoles. All this can lead to is the watering-down of a great game. I don't care if you think the PS4 can handle it, what happens to it then if it gets ported? In its life, EVE has experienced many graphics and sound upgrades that it will stop getting if it winds up stagnating on hardware that cannot be upgraded, modified or swapped out.
I enjoy consoles as much as the next guy, but some games aren't meant for consoles. EVE is one of them. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2136
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Posted - 2013.12.17 05:31:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why? Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs.
Mine was only $854 and runs EVE just fine in 1080p at 60fps with all settings to maximum.
If you're spending over $1K, you're either getting ripped off, or you wanted something more. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2136
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Posted - 2013.12.17 05:34:00 -
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icedragon2072 wrote:well, in my oppinion the ps4 can run it better graphics wise than a comparable priced desktop :P. and it's easier than a desktop to take with you where you want to go etc..just more convinance/graphics thing..while i agree multi accounts might be a bit difficult i would still opt to play it..or hell..maybe have one runing on ps4 and the desktop for the rest of the stuff.
And on the starcraft note...it was made for the 64 "starcraft 64" to be exact i actually played it on console before the pc it took the expansion pack to play multiplayer and brood war lol.
A $500 laptop is more portable than a console and runs EVE just fine as well. What's your point? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Alice Saki
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
101319
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Posted - 2013.12.17 05:37:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why? Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs.
Whoa whoa... my Rig is Over -ú2000+ 
Oh Dear god why did I spend so much 
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Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative
743
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Posted - 2013.12.17 07:11:00 -
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45thtiger 0109 wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? DuSt 514 on PC would be better than console thats what I believe should had happen from the start. But ps4 umm no thanks. I tried DuSt 514 once and I will never go back. I am a dedicated EvE player not a dedicated DuSt 514 Player. Thats my two cents worth  forget DUST on PC, DUST should have been PART of the EVE client, the actual EVE, not "sorta somewhat tied in and related EVE", it should have been the exapnsion to let us walk/do **** on planets, instead they tried a standalone game in a market they didnt have any experience with for a genre already dominated and saturated for YEARS by the exact same companies.
there was literally NO logical reason for DUST to be made and exist in the form it did |

auraofblade
Kid's Logistics Inc
27
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Posted - 2013.12.17 07:27:00 -
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Cela Kashuken wrote:...and control Eve online with a gamepad? To be fair, it works surprisingly well with a stylus, just because of the menu wheel that nobody with a mouse and keyboard bothers to use. |

Dextrome Thorphan
RvB - RED Federation
88
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Posted - 2013.12.17 08:50:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why? Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs.
Huh? What do you need that $1000 gaming rig for? I thought we were talking about playing eve... |
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Dextrome Thorphan
RvB - RED Federation
88
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Posted - 2013.12.17 08:52:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:45thtiger 0109 wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? DuSt 514 on PC would be better than console thats what I believe should had happen from the start. But ps4 umm no thanks. I tried DuSt 514 once and I will never go back. I am a dedicated EvE player not a dedicated DuSt 514 Player. Thats my two cents worth  forget DUST on PC, DUST should have been PART of the EVE client, the actual EVE, not "sorta somewhat tied in and related EVE", it should have been the exapnsion to let us walk/do **** on planets, instead they tried a standalone game in a market they didnt have any experience with for a genre already dominated and saturated for YEARS by the exact same companies. there was literally NO logical reason for DUST to be made and exist in the form it did
I know man... everybody feels teh same. But you do know there IS a logical reason, that reason being MONEY. |

Logan Revelore
Minimal Solutions Aurora Irae
8
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:11:00 -
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Kryptik Kai wrote:Ambassador Crane wrote: Frankly, it's bad enough Dust is only on PS3 and at present they have not announced any plans to make it available on PC, much to the current Eve community's disapproval. Why would they put Eve on PS4?
Well, Dust flopped, why not watch EVE flop on console. I mean... does anyone really see the typical console player having the patience required for this game?
QFT. |

Kris Xavier
StarHunt Insidious Empire
21
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:17:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why? Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs.
Yes i have an expensive gaming rig, but not for eve.
I currently run eve on a Core 2 duo, Win xp, GT630, 4gb ram, running 2 x 22" 1680x1050 and yes usally have graphics turned right down and im scrolled out, but if i want to, i can turn them right up, use one screen and play on near max settings and enjoy some graphics ****.
You do not need to spend much money on a pc to play eve. |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
264
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:24:00 -
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Kryptik Kai wrote:Ambassador Crane wrote: Frankly, it's bad enough Dust is only on PS3 and at present they have not announced any plans to make it available on PC, much to the current Eve community's disapproval. Why would they put Eve on PS4?
Well, Dust flopped, why not watch EVE flop on console. I mean... does anyone really see the typical console player having the patience required for this game? they wouldn't.
plus, just look at the current state of EvE....all those resources diverted for what was, from the moment it became PS3 only, a pure fail, is what led us with the current broken game we have....
CCP need to bite the bullet, drop dust and focus on EvE and AOD, let alone their valkyrie project, where noone would play because of the expansive gear required anyway (even if i love the concept, the price tag makes it a no-no).
this is bad ressource investment , and it is detrimental to the currently only CCP cash source: Eve Online.
i already stopped 2 accounts for various reasons, all of them came with odyssey.
theat was a trigger only, but the growing bugs an obvious flaws of the game, coupled with CCP attitude of 100% ignoring player feedback then complaining about player not giving feedback, led us to that.
i'm no special snowflake, but since 1 year, i saw many pilots account go dark sayin "go to hell CCP", with a big spike right after odysssey, mostly the exploration removal from the game is to blame, coupled with all the time tidi + jump animation and sensor overlay.
CCP better move FAST to put it back together, many accounts are subbed for 1y, and by +- march 2014, trust me CCP will notice that ppl are not satisfied at all |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
649
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:29:00 -
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No matter how well you craft the client, or if you require KB/M, PS4 users would be second class citizens, and there would be no way to prevent it. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
3062
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:51:00 -
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No. I don't want more peasants to infest my beautiful universe. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Fr3akwave
Space Road Truckers.
17
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:53:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs.
Lets limit progression for everyone else because some are unable to put together reasonable computer and therefore instead buy a stupid console for even more money.
Sounds good. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6977
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:00:00 -
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auraofblade wrote:Cela Kashuken wrote:...and control Eve online with a gamepad? To be fair, it works surprisingly well with a stylus, just because of the menu wheel that nobody with a mouse and keyboard bothers to use. I use it all the time... Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
3062
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:09:00 -
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icedragon2072 wrote:well, in my oppinion the ps4 can run it better graphics wise than a comparable priced desktop :P. and it's easier than a desktop to take with you where you want to go etc..just more convinance/graphics thing..while i agree multi accounts might be a bit difficult i would still opt to play it..or hell..maybe have one runing on ps4 and the desktop for the rest of the stuff.
And on the starcraft note...it was made for the 64 "starcraft 64" to be exact i actually played it on console before the pc it took the expansion pack to play multiplayer and brood war lol.
Funny, I just built a "Steambox" for a friend for $450, that he upgraded with a 7870 that he bought during black friday for literally nothing that absolutely annihilates the PS4 in every aspect. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
191
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:14:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:No. I don't want more peasants to infest my beautiful universe.
But think of the tears you could harvest from said peasants! |
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
576
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:52:00 -
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Good luck alt-tabbing to Excel on a console. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Mr Pragmatic
802
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Posted - 2013.12.17 15:01:00 -
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I think it would be cool to have Eve on every platform possible to expand the population.
Eve on a PS4 would be possible. I for one would utilize that function. Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness. -á-Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling. |

Doctor Severide
Skulls of Rot
0
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Posted - 2013.12.17 15:30:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why? Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs. So tough luck, lets give EVE the inevitable "dumbing down" to get it to run on a console so the beggars of the world won't cry. EVE isn't a right...
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Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
210
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Posted - 2013.12.17 15:57:00 -
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icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible?
Its not enuf that DUST is ONLY for that wretched gizmo?! NO it CANT! GO HOME! |

Sim Cognito
Ardent Spirits
9
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:19:00 -
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Kryptik Kai wrote:Ambassador Crane wrote: Frankly, it's bad enough Dust is only on PS3 and at present they have not announced any plans to make it available on PC, much to the current Eve community's disapproval. Why would they put Eve on PS4?
Well, Dust flopped, why not watch EVE flop on console. I mean... does anyone really see the typical console player having the patience required for this game?
As if the typical "PC player" is any different. Gamers are gamers and gaming is gaming.
The division between PC and console "crowds" is both made-up and nonsensical. Just another stupid example of tribalism, "us" vs "them". |

Auric Varangian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:25:00 -
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Logan Revelore wrote:Kryptik Kai wrote:Ambassador Crane wrote: Frankly, it's bad enough Dust is only on PS3 and at present they have not announced any plans to make it available on PC, much to the current Eve community's disapproval. Why would they put Eve on PS4?
Well, Dust flopped, why not watch EVE flop on console. I mean... does anyone really see the typical console player having the patience required for this game? QFT.
Charming to see PC owners bash console owners. I never understood that animosity, perhaps it stems from beeing insecure? I own a PC (for gaming and some work) and a PS3 for gaming. Some segments of the console owners don't have the patience for EVE and others do, and this is, of course, also the case with people who only own a PC. Since the PS4 works like a charm with KB/M, runs much like a PC (no more cell) the only problem I see is the consoles capacity concerning future updates of EVE's graphic engine. But again...this is also the case with all the PC people with older machines. If the investment to port, and continually support, EVE is moderate then perhaps CCP should look into it. |

Tirane Merkator
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:03:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:This is like asking for Starcraft on the Nintendo 64.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8EUdIr6c1s
my friend actualy got command and conquer 64 ;) |

Doctor Severide
Skulls of Rot
0
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:56:00 -
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Auric Varangian wrote:If the investment to port, and continually support, EVE is moderate then perhaps CCP should look into it.
Even 5 cents is a waste of cash they can use to make EVE better on a PC...
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Ramona McCandless
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1517
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:02:00 -
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Auric Varangian wrote: Charming to see PC owners bash console owners. I never understood that animosity, perhaps it stems from beeing insecure?
Nope, comes from consoles being poor at games with depth
And I own about a dozen of the things
But none of them is older than a PS2
Because I already have a PC and a DVD player and I dont feel like standing and waving my arms around like a windmill *** Vote MTU For CSM ***
Non omnis moriar |

Ramona McCandless
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1517
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:04:00 -
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Mr Pragmatic wrote:I think it would be cool to have a workhouse in Eve to decrease the surplus population.
Fixed *** Vote MTU For CSM ***
Non omnis moriar |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1560
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:06:00 -
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Cela Kashuken wrote:...and control Eve online with a gamepad?
in dust you can use a mouse and keyboard...
soo...
your point again? There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2139
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:07:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Cela Kashuken wrote:...and control Eve online with a gamepad? in dust you can use a mouse and keyboard... soo... your point again?
EVE isn't DUST. DUST was CCP's plan to expand to the console crowd, and they did it that way instead of porting EVE to console because they will never port EVE to console.
And the fact is, the console crowd is a much more casual crowd, and DUST is a much more casual game. Sure you can get casual games on PC, but I'm only going to make this point one more time.
You can't upgrade your PS4 hardware. You are stuck with what you've got. That means, if it gets ported to PS4, it either gets a very limited client, or it stops developing altogether. In any case, it won't happen. Developing a whole new port for console is what DUST is, and they already spend enough time on that.
If EVE ever goes to console, I for one would be incredibly sad, but I would also definitely find a new game. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Ramona McCandless
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1521
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:11:00 -
[53] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Im going to miss the small point that was made and go on and ignore that small point without apologising or conceding I was wrong
Fairly typical response around here really
*** Vote MTU For CSM ***
Non omnis moriar |

Felicity Love
Nighthawk Exploration
1055
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:15:00 -
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icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible?
Holy crispy-crunching ****... and have what little game content that survives, actually survive in any meaningful form after SONY is done demanding so many mind-numbing changes that a turnip could play it ?

Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Ramona McCandless
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1521
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:17:00 -
[55] - Quote
Felicity Love wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Holy crispy-crunching ****... and have what little game content that survives, actually survive in any meaningful form after SONY is done demanding so many mind-numbing changes that a turnip could play it ? 
Also, no fecking swearing or alluding to mindreaps or even body reaps on PS
Wont someone think of the children!?
Oh wait
That was the problem
Im so so sorry *** Vote MTU For CSM ***
Non omnis moriar |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2139
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:19:00 -
[56] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
Im going to miss the small point that was made and go on and ignore that small point without apologising or conceding I was wrong
Fairly typical response around here really
The point I'm 'missing' is irrelevant because the point that PC hardware > limited proprietary hardware supersedes it. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
232
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:55:00 -
[57] - Quote
It's always refreshing to see dirty console peasants trying to motivate their dreadful consumer model to the glorious PC master race.
Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity. |

Ramona McCandless
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1521
|
Posted - 2013.12.17 21:17:00 -
[58] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote: The point I'm 'missing' is irrelevant because the point that PC hardware > limited proprietary hardware supersedes it.
I agree with what you are saying
But the point is you CAN play games on a console without resorting to a joypad
No need to get snippy, you were just wrong and the gentleman pointed it out
Tsk
No manners in New Eden, thats one of the problems *** Vote MTU For CSM ***
Non omnis moriar |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
657
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:23:00 -
[59] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Felicity Love wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Holy crispy-crunching ****... and have what little game content that survives, actually survive in any meaningful form after SONY is done demanding so many mind-numbing changes that a turnip could play it ?  Also, no fecking swearing or alluding to mindreaps or even body reaps on PS Wont someone think of the children!? Oh wait That was the problem Im so so sorry
Is this true? The gallente epic arc ends with you blowing up a child pron studio. Thread over. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2139
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:29:00 -
[60] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote: The point I'm 'missing' is irrelevant because the point that PC hardware > limited proprietary hardware supersedes it.
I agree with what you are saying But the point is you CAN play games on a console without resorting to a joypad No need to get snippy, you were just wrong and the gentleman pointed it out Tsk No manners in New Eden, thats one of the problems
I wasn't wrong, though, because I never argued against keyboard and mouse on console. I use it myself. I just explained why that is irrelevant to whether or not EVE should be on console. That is not snippy, that is just an explanation, with straight talk. Explanations don't require manners, last I checked. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
164
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:30:00 -
[61] - Quote
45thtiger 0109 wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? DuSt 514 on PC would be better than console thats what I believe should had happen from the start. But ps4 umm no thanks. I tried DuSt 514 once and I will never go back. I am a dedicated EvE player not a dedicated DuSt 514 Player. Thats my two cents worth 
You can always tell when somebody knows they are saying something stupid when they end everything with "just my two cents".
Realistically what you're saying is "Here is something incredibly stupid, now please dont verbally punch me in the throat." |

Ramona McCandless
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1521
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:31:00 -
[62] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Explanations don't require manners, last I checked.
Everything requires manners
Otherwise you are just a rude little **** *** Vote MTU For CSM ***
Non omnis moriar |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2139
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:48:00 -
[63] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Explanations don't require manners, last I checked. Everything requires manners Otherwise you are just a rude little ****
It was an explanation. There were no manners, there was no lack of manners. Explanations are indifferent, ie. not polite or impolite. Do you understand? No one writes a report, or an essay, or a literature review, with manners in mind, because manners are irrelevant when it comes to presenting facts and arguments. That is, presenting them with bad manners is just as irrelevant as presenting them with good ones.
And I don't really care what you think of me personally. That's also irrelevant. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Ramona McCandless
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1522
|
Posted - 2013.12.17 21:52:00 -
[64] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:
And I don't really care what you think of me personally. That's also irrelevant.
Good show
I wouldn't expect you to considering your overwhelming arrogance
And ridiculous ignorance *** Vote MTU For CSM ***
Non omnis moriar |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1235
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:54:00 -
[65] - Quote
Think of the whining when all the console kiddies get scammed out of their isk. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2139
|
Posted - 2013.12.17 21:59:00 -
[66] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
And I don't really care what you think of me personally. That's also irrelevant.
I missed the point, was wrong, and can't admit it, now I'm trying to save face by attempting to insult and hurt the feelings of the person that that's responsible for calling me out instead of making a valid argument.
This is called prescriptive retaliation. It's also called "you are not making a relevant point regarding EVE on consoles." All you're trying to do is dig at my character.
The irony is not lost on me when you call me arrogant, Ramona. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Ramona McCandless
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1523
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:06:00 -
[67] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:
The irony is not lost on me when you call me arrogant, Ramona.
You mean my hypocrisy, don't you?
The irony is that I already made it clear that I agree with you in regards to the utter worthlessness of consoles in regards to playing a game like EvE on due to limitations of graphical hardware and shallow-minded developers and publishing houses.
But the initial issue was you said you didnt want to play EvE on a joypad
And it was pointed out that consoles have had mice and keyboards since 1999
And yet you still powered through with "yes but my main point stands"
Without even recognising that your issue with control systems was flawed and wrong
And then proceeded to say that manners dont count for squat in the real world
And thats not correct, your statement supporting it was arrogant and shallow, which I called you on
And here we are
Your move, sweet cheeks
*** Vote MTU For CSM ***
Non omnis moriar |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2139
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:37:00 -
[68] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:
But the initial issue was you said you didnt want to play EvE on a joypad
This was never my issue. This was never my point. I never complained about this. The reason I never complained about this was because the point that even next-gen console hardware is outdated by any given PC supersedes any reasoning regarding peripherals like gaming controllers. You can get all the same peripherals on PS that you can get on a PC, and visa versa, which makes that particular variable completely irrelevant.
I never had an issue with control systems to be flawed and wrong, so if that's what you're sniping at me for, then you are missing your intended target. You might want to go back and find out who had this particular problem with playing EVE on a gamepad, and throw your tantrum at them, because even though I would never play EVE on a gamepad, I don't have a problem with it being made compatible for one. You can do that on PC.
I have a problem with it being ported to console and stagnating on proprietary hardware. That is all. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Digital Messiah
Digital Alchemist Abandon PlayGrounds
346
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Posted - 2013.12.18 20:56:00 -
[69] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? This idea is everything that's wrong with consoles. All this can lead to is the watering-down of a great game. I don't care if you think the PS4 can handle it, what happens to it then if it gets ported? In its life, EVE has experienced many graphics and sound upgrades that it will stop getting if it winds up stagnating on hardware that cannot be upgraded, modified or swapped out. I enjoy consoles as much as the next guy, but some games aren't meant for consoles. EVE is one of them.
This is why they will never do it. Not because the system couldn't handle it consoles have the ability to run everything under the sun far better than a computer with lower hardware requirement. The reason being is driver and code optimization. It is a lot harder to optimize games for the pc because there is so much hardware it has to be compatible with. They could run eve on the ps4 at max graphical capacity for the next 3 - 5 major graphical updates. The problem all in all with this is putting the resources forth to actually do this. I think it would've been more profitable for eve than dust 514. But if you look at other mmo's it isn't what is holding the playerbase numbers back. And console kids don't flock to games with this high a learning curve. Something clever |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2013.12.18 22:07:00 -
[70] - Quote
Console gamer = "I bees teh awesome after one day of game play and can max level mah toon after just one week"
Eve gamer = " "your toon is only 4 years old ??? ... that must really suck being so low skilled" |
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Knights Armament
State Protectorate Caldari State
125
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Posted - 2013.12.18 22:10:00 -
[71] - Quote
I think eve should focus on the steam box, we need to let sony, and microsoft die. http://evemouthbreathers.blogspot.com/
https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |

Jill Chastot
Aliastra Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2013.12.18 22:14:00 -
[72] - Quote
Alice Saki wrote:James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why? Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs. Whoa whoa... my Rig is Over -ú2000+  Oh Dear god why did I spend so much 
shesh you even paid that expensive british money. It must be something special, or you bought alienware... |

Ramona McCandless
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1550
|
Posted - 2013.12.18 22:22:00 -
[73] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:
This was never my issue.
kk, so you made a point that had nothing to do with what you quoted
cool *** Vote MTU For CSM ***
Non omnis moriar |

Jill Chastot
Aliastra Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2013.12.18 22:31:00 -
[74] - Quote
Kris Xavier wrote:James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why? Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs. Yes i have an expensive gaming rig, but not for eve. I currently run eve on a Core 2 duo, Win xp, GT630, 4gb ram, running 2 x 22" 1680x1050 and yes usally have graphics turned right down and im scrolled out, but if i want to, i can turn them right up, use one screen and play on near max settings and enjoy some graphics ****. You do not need to spend much money on a pc to play eve.
I skimmed it so fast i thought you had a 630 in your gaming rig and i had to re read it a few times properly...
._. herpa derpa |

The Zetin Sunn
1st Armored Division
9
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:45:00 -
[75] - Quote
James Nikolas Tesla wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why? Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs.
Learn to build a PC, its easier than lego (no actually) and you'll be dualboxing like a pro for much less than the PS4 costs. |

Logan Revelore
Minimal Solutions Aurora Irae
9
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Posted - 2013.12.19 03:22:00 -
[76] - Quote
Auric Varangian wrote:Logan Revelore wrote:Kryptik Kai wrote:Ambassador Crane wrote: Frankly, it's bad enough Dust is only on PS3 and at present they have not announced any plans to make it available on PC, much to the current Eve community's disapproval. Why would they put Eve on PS4?
Well, Dust flopped, why not watch EVE flop on console. I mean... does anyone really see the typical console player having the patience required for this game? QFT. Charming to see PC owners bash console owners. I never understood that animosity, perhaps it stems from beeing insecure? I own a PC (for gaming and some work) and a PS3 for gaming. Some segments of the console owners don't have the patience for EVE and others do, and this is, of course, also the case with people who only own a PC. Since the PS4 works like a charm with KB/M, runs much like a PC (no more cell) the only problem I see is the consoles capacity concerning future updates of EVE's graphic engine. But again...this is also the case with all the PC people with older machines. If the investment to port, and continually support, EVE is moderate then perhaps CCP should look into it. Also, this is my first post, where is the cake?
Not bashing anyone, I just doubt that 95% of the console population has the patience for a game like EVE. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7021
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:38:00 -
[77] - Quote
Logan Revelore wrote:Not bashing anyone, I just doubt that 95% of the console population has the patience for a game like EVE. Hardly saying much considering the same is probably true of the PC gaming population. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Bobinu
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
23
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Posted - 2013.12.19 08:53:00 -
[78] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:This is like asking for Starcraft on the Nintendo 64.
Can I have Starcraft on my N64..pleeeeease! |

Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2145
|
Posted - 2013.12.19 11:45:00 -
[79] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
This was never my issue.
kk, so you made a point that had nothing to do with what you quoted cool
Wrong. I was explaining why the argument quoted was irrelevant. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Brendan Anneto
Dread Phoenix Society Fidelas Constans
12
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:00:00 -
[80] - Quote
Lors Dornick wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible? Possible sure. Functional, maybe. But why?
I'm to poor to afford a computer. Better downgrade
Proverbs 1:26-27 |
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Steve WingYip
The Alect Squadron
4
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:30:00 -
[81] - Quote
icedragon2072 wrote:The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible?
Or just play it on PC? LOL |

Arduemont
The State of War.
2524
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Posted - 2013.12.19 13:26:00 -
[82] - Quote
icedragon2072 wrote:well, in my oppinion the ps4 can run it better graphics wise than a comparable priced desktop :P.
You are aware that the PS4 is built from overpriced desktop hardware right? Looks up what's in a PS4 and price it up, build a computer yourself. You could make a PC with identical hardware stats for a quarter of the price.
Quote:ThereGÇÖs an 8-core AMD Jaguar/Kabini x86-64 CPU, a Radeon 7870-derived GPU with 18 compute units (vs. Xbox OneGÇÖs 12 CUs), and 8GB of unified GDDR5 RAM
-ú60 for the AMD Jag, -ú120 for the Radeon 7870, 8GB RAM -ú40. Basic PC case -ú10, cheap PSU -ú20. So, -ú250 for the equipment. -ú350 for the PS4 without controllers etc. PCs are cheaper, and you could spend the extra -ú100 on more powerful hardware and then it would be better for the same price. No competition. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Logan Revelore
Minimal Solutions Aurora Irae
9
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Posted - 2013.12.19 14:05:00 -
[83] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Logan Revelore wrote:Not bashing anyone, I just doubt that 95% of the console population has the patience for a game like EVE. Hardly saying much considering the same is probably true of the PC gaming population.
Good point. I'd counter with this though:
Those players that like a game such as EVE will probably find their way here on their own via a PC. That's what I think at least. Consoles aren't really known for games such as this, and as such the player base there is probably more biased towards other genres of games. |

Jill Chastot
Aliastra Gallente Federation
68
|
Posted - 2013.12.19 18:31:00 -
[84] - Quote
Arduemont wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:well, in my oppinion the ps4 can run it better graphics wise than a comparable priced desktop :P. You are aware that the PS4 is built from overpriced desktop hardware right? Looks up what's in a PS4 and price it up, build a computer yourself. You could make a PC with identical hardware stats for a fraction of the price. Quote:ThereGÇÖs an 8-core AMD Jaguar/Kabini x86-64 CPU, a Radeon 7870-derived GPU with 18 compute units (vs. Xbox OneGÇÖs 12 CUs), and 8GB of unified GDDR5 RAM -ú60 for the AMD Jag, -ú120 for the Radeon 7870, 8GB RAM -ú40. Basic PC case -ú10, cheap PSU -ú20. So, -ú250 for the equipment. -ú350 for the PS4 without controllers etc. PCs are cheaper, and you could spend the extra -ú100 on more powerful hardware and then it would be better for the same price. No competition. That is of course assuming you don't have computer parts you could already use, which would make it even more cheap than the PS4. Games consoles are for people who don't want the extra hassle a PC brings and are willing to pay the extra expense. If your argument is that they should release it for PS4 because some people are poor, then your doing it backward. That's just more reason for them not to develop a PS4 crossover.
Dont forget an OS :l |

Boomhaur
162
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:02:00 -
[85] - Quote
It seems people are forgetting the development cost to get the game on a PS4. I don't see the market for a game like Eve on a console, were a tad bit too hardcore for them. Plus with the comparable entry cost to get a new computer that can run Eve, or just dropping in a GPU in almost any machine to run it. I don't see a compelling reason to have Eve ported.
Plus you can't run Excel on an PS4 and you be forced to use the terribly bad in game browser to use google spreadsheets to get the full Eve experience.
It's not just the game that makes this it's the community and what drives it, a large chunk of which isn't entirely "in game". Want to join a corp and use voip, better download some software. Keep track of skills, theres evemon. Killboards, out of game. Make the best ship possible for yourself, download EFT or PYFA. And the list goes on.
A PS4 version of Eve would give it's players a gimped experience compared to the PC players even if they were exactly the same and supported keyboard and mouse.
Plus I'd rather have them put their money on expanding Eve rather than trying to lose money by trying to tap into a market filled by players who prefer Call of Duty 2013, than pay $60 plus DLC to get Call of Duty 2014 which has a few new maps and skins but pretty much the same game the very next year. (Yes I just picked on COD to prove a point, majority of the console games out there are just rehashes of older games with tacked on DLC. I don't see Eve doing well in this market as there is nothing else like it for them to compare it too.) Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you. |

Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
63
|
Posted - 2013.12.19 20:14:00 -
[86] - Quote
Jill Chastot wrote:Arduemont wrote:icedragon2072 wrote:well, in my oppinion the ps4 can run it better graphics wise than a comparable priced desktop :P. You are aware that the PS4 is built from overpriced desktop hardware right? Looks up what's in a PS4 and price it up, build a computer yourself. You could make a PC with identical hardware stats for a fraction of the price. Quote:ThereGÇÖs an 8-core AMD Jaguar/Kabini x86-64 CPU, a Radeon 7870-derived GPU with 18 compute units (vs. Xbox OneGÇÖs 12 CUs), and 8GB of unified GDDR5 RAM -ú60 for the AMD Jag, -ú120 for the Radeon 7870, 8GB RAM -ú40. Basic PC case -ú10, cheap PSU -ú20. So, -ú250 for the equipment. -ú350 for the PS4 without controllers etc. PCs are cheaper, and you could spend the extra -ú100 on more powerful hardware and then it would be better for the same price. No competition. That is of course assuming you don't have computer parts you could already use, which would make it even more cheap than the PS4. Games consoles are for people who don't want the extra hassle a PC brings and are willing to pay the extra expense. If your argument is that they should release it for PS4 because some people are poor, then your doing it backward. That's just more reason for them not to develop a PS4 crossover. Dont forget an OS :l
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Installing_EVE_on_Linux
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Arduemont
The State of War.
2535
|
Posted - 2013.12.19 21:01:00 -
[87] - Quote
This man has it covered.
I love the implication in that straight face smiley. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
680
|
Posted - 2013.12.19 21:28:00 -
[88] - Quote
Even if they do a perfect port, the various 3rd party tools and communication features would not be available. Playing without a keyboard and mouse would not be possible.
They shouldn't waste time developing a product that would be unavoidably inferior. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Alduin666 Shikkoken
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore
213
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Posted - 2013.12.20 05:49:00 -
[89] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:This is like asking for Starcraft on the Nintendo 64.
Starcraft Ghost - Been there done that. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager |
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